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dpkg chopra posted:I have a 2020 Kia Rio S. It is very needs suiting, despite having been a desperation buy in the hellscape of 2021. I'm also aware that it's also basically a glorified RC car. A 5x8 uhaul trailer weights 900 lbs, almost half of what you can tow with that thing. So all your belongings would need to fit into that AND weigh less than 1100 lbs.
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In that situation I would seriously consider renting a van / box truck from UHaul and a car hauler to tow the car on. A 10' UHaul truck pulling your Rio is going to be a much nicer towing experience than your Rio towing its max capacity.
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Sep 14, 2022 17:46
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GA to NY is a lot of Appalachian passes I'd be hesitant to tow both with a compact prime mover and the rinky dink 55mph U-Haul mini trailer while also being a first time tower. Another vote for van and convoy or truck and car trailer.
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Sep 14, 2022 18:06
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Thanks everyone for the insight. I hadn't considered that the road would have some mountain turns, but yeah that makes sense. Truck + car tow was the second option, with eventually Truck and going back for the car if necessary. I'd rather avoid the convoy because with just two of us and such a long drive, I'd feel safer if we had the option to switch drivers when necessary. Thanks again.
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Sep 14, 2022 18:47
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Hi, folks! Proposed Budget: under $50K New or Used: New Body Style:SUV How will you be using the car?: We're a family of 3, occasionally driving as many as 5 people, although that's not a requirement. We live out in the boonies in Northern California, which means we routinely make 4-hour round-trips to see the doctor, or 3-hour round-trips to hit the Costco. Our current 2015 Fit was great for city life, but is noisy and uncomfortable for long-haul driving. We are routinely going to be taking large bags to the dump (still unpacking from our last move), so hauling capacity is important. A couple of contractor-size bags is about the space we'd need. We appreciate driving aids like parking assist, lane keep, and so on. We don't care about luxury trims. We don't drive off-road, but we do occasionally drive on dirt roads. Being able to haul would be very handy. We routinely drive on very winding roads with a drop, so handling is important. We generally buy cars new, for cash, and then drive them until they break too frequently. The Fit is an exception to our rule, because our use has changed. What aspects are most important to you? * Interior quiet & comfort * Gas mileage (prefer hybrid) * Moderate hauling ability I'm aware that this is a terrible year to buy a car, and even more terrible to buy a hybrid. I'm expecting to go on a wait list and (wince) to pay over MSRP. Consumer Reports likes the 2022 Hyundai Tucson hybrid, which is of course made of unobtanium, but welcome to 2022. What cars should we be looking at, and what should we expect? e: We are cheapskates, although we have bought an Audi and an Acura Integra in the past. We will never, ever do our own maintenance. Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Sep 14, 2022 |
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Sep 14, 2022 19:35
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Smallsize 3row: Sportage / Tucson, Highlander Midsize 3row: Telluride / Palisade, Traverse, Pilot Minivan: Carnival, Sienna, Odyssey I’d lean towards a Telluride or Palisade. Not hybrid but if 80% of your mileage is constant 55mph+ then a hybrid drivetrain kinda doesn’t matter. Hybrids are like 100% more efficient at stop/go/stop/go city stuff and like 5% more efficient at highway speeds. Minivans in there because minivans are seriously the best things available for actual hauling, and the Sienna is always hybrid. Edit: hmmm if you’re doing hilly road stuff and only rarely need to transport 5 (without luggage) then a hybrid Sportage / Tucson / Highlander are pretty choice. Highlander will be more expensive but, y’know, Toyota. DNK fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Sep 14, 2022 |
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Sep 14, 2022 20:11
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DNK posted:I’d lean towards a Telluride or Palisade. Not hybrid but if 80% of your mileage is constant 55mph+ then a hybrid drivetrain kinda doesn’t matter. Hybrids are like 100% more efficient at stop/go/stop/go city stuff and like 5% more efficient at highway speeds. California State Road 20 Also, I made a typo: when I said "being able to haul would be very handy", I meant "It would be nice to be able to tow a small U-haul trailer very rarely."
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Sep 14, 2022 20:26
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zedprime posted:GA to NY is a lot of Appalachian passes I'd be hesitant to tow both with a compact prime mover and the rinky dink 55mph U-Haul mini trailer while also being a first time tower. what passes are you talking about? run 85 to 95 and there are not a lot of passes I agree towing is not clever here but it's not because of the mountains.
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Sep 14, 2022 23:06
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dpkg chopra posted:Thanks everyone for the insight. this is a weird take to me - just drive a truck and drive the car and swap off as necessary, take breaks, and do it over multiple days
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Sep 14, 2022 23:12
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:what passes are you talking about? run 85 to 95 and there are not a lot of passes Maybe I am tripping you up calling them passes causes it's not exactly Rockies or Sierra bullshit roads. Its not going to take a very steep hill to make you care about things normal drivers don't notice like engine and brake temps if you are driving a compact at it's tow limit through even the nice gentle interstates going over the Appalachians.
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Sep 14, 2022 23:44
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zedprime posted:Atlanta to Charlotte on 85 would annoy the poo poo out of me if I was in a Kia Rio hauling a trailer. Then you can either take your Kia Rio hauling a trailer through 85 and the DC Philly NJ turnpike hell corridor or stay on the hills riding up 81. You can't even make it up I95 without drafting semis up the hills in something that low powered. I know this for sure because I've done it with a uhaul trailer in a 94 ranger.
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Sep 14, 2022 23:49
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Get the Uhaul truck, load it with whatever. Convoy it. Plan to stop every few hours to stretch your legs, eat, piss whatever. Take a couple days to do it and book a hotel room or two. Whoever is in the car stays in the back to run blocker. People are notorious assholes to people in cars, and tend to be even worse with people in trucks. Get the van/truck driver to signal lane changes early whenever possible and whoever is driving the car pays attention, gets their rear end over to the next lane and gives the truck room to move over. That'll take care of 90% of that type of poo poo. The other 10% just have to remember, gently caress other drivers. For quick communications, use FRS radios, or GMRS or whatever the gently caress they call that poo poo. Obey state and local laws WRT "device" use while driving obviously.
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Sep 15, 2022 00:01
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If all your possessions fit into 8-ft trailer, you don't even need a truck, just a short roof cargo van. Those drive much nicer. And yeah, much easier to handle than economy car at a towing limit.
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Sep 15, 2022 12:52
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DNK posted:Smallsize 3row: Sportage / Tucson,
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Sep 15, 2022 18:53
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Are these slashes because they're the same car rebadged, or because they're similar, or because they're tied for first place? Hyundai owns a huge stake in Kia so they share platforms.
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Despite sharing platforms they have very differently styled interiors and exteriors and the driving dynamics aren't identical so buy the one you prefer with the better price. I'd probably buy a Highlander Hybrid and be done with it, personally.
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Sep 15, 2022 19:11
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KillHour posted:Hyundai owns a huge stake in Kia so they share platforms. And Kia has substantial stakes in a number of Hyundai family companies! Just chaebol things. The companies share platforms but are hilariously, insanely competitive with each other for what I assume are also just chaebol things.
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Sep 15, 2022 19:12
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coveted triple post: you probably want to look at the Kia Sorento rather than the Sportage if you go that route.
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Sep 15, 2022 19:16
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:coveted triple post: you probably want to look at the Kia Sorento rather than the Sportage if you go that route. Google says the Sorento has been cancelled and replaced by the Carnaval. How bad an idea is buying a first-year car?
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Google says the Sorento has been cancelled and replaced by the Carnaval. How bad an idea is buying a first-year car? The Carnival replaced the Sedona in the minivan/MPV space. The Sorento is still available.
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Sep 15, 2022 19:58
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:And Kia has substantial stakes in a number of Hyundai family companies! Just chaebol things. The companies share platforms but are hilariously, insanely competitive with each other for what I assume are also just chaebol things. Huh I had no idea. I always assumed the Kia/Hyundai relationship was essentially the same as Toyota/Lexus or Honda/Acura. That's fascinating to hear that they're actually semi-competitors.
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Sep 15, 2022 20:04
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drat, I was trying to set up a test drive, and the closest dealership, a mere 3 hours away, now has no hybrids on the lot; there were three yesterday, at $7K over MSRP.
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Sep 15, 2022 20:50
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incogneato posted:Huh I had no idea. I always assumed the Kia/Hyundai relationship was essentially the same as Toyota/Lexus or Honda/Acura. That's fascinating to hear that they're actually semi-competitors. Genesis is Hyundai/Genesis like Toyota/Lexus.
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incogneato posted:Huh I had no idea. I always assumed the Kia/Hyundai relationship was essentially the same as Toyota/Lexus or Honda/Acura. That's fascinating to hear that they're actually semi-competitors. They started out as completely separate companies. Eventually they got closer and part of that meant parts and platform sharing, but they are not and have never been the same company, probably the best analogy would be like Renault/Nissan in markets where both are sold.
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Sep 15, 2022 22:32
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So since I'm great at making financially sound decisions I am buying a BMW 135i with 57k miles on it. They are offering me a 5 year 60k mile warranty through Veritas for $4.7k. Normally I would just say no thanks and carry on but this is my first foray into BMW ownership and I wanted to ask the internet if it was actually a good idea. I'm 99% sure the answer is no, but I wanted to check.
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Sep 16, 2022 02:50
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Don't know about Veritas in particular, but most aftermarket warranty companies get you to pay them a bunch of money and then fight the poo poo out of you to not have to actually pay up for warranty work.
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Sep 16, 2022 02:52
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$4.7k is about exactly the amount of warranty repairs you'll need done in that time, it'll be your coolant expansion tank and some random bullshit And yeah you're gonna have to fight them for every red dime They've done the math and they know they'll pay out less than that, otherwise they wouldn't offer it at that price
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Sep 16, 2022 03:04
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You're generally money ahead by foregoing the extended warranty and just paying for the repairs as you need them. The "warranty" is just prepayment for repairs they think you'll need, + a markup. The only way you come out ahead is if your car ends up being a complete disaster, which is a weird way to win. Plan on spending about $1000/year on repairs and set it aside ahead of time.
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Sep 16, 2022 03:19
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Yeah, gonna do what Nancy Reagan said and just say no. Felt like I should run it by the internet first though.
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Sep 16, 2022 03:32
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I've never bought one but I think you can just contact whoever the service provider is (or a different one, whatever) and they'll probably sell it to you for far less than what the dealer is asking. Salespeople are pushy on things that generate the most profit.
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Sep 16, 2022 03:36
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If it’s an actual BMW extended warranty it will pay out, but this isn’t, so it won’t.
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I think the Route 66 warranty for $3k is still well regarded. https://www.penfed.org/auto/extended-warranty
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I'm thinking of trading in my 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo. I don't do a lot of commuting, and I'm looking for a dog car/camping vehicle. What I am currently considering is a 2 door newer Wrangler, or an outback, or similar. But what else should I be thinking about? RAV4? What's the utilitarian/money smart choice? I like the look of some Volvo wagons but those are also expensive since I'm looking to be under 40.
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The Clitoris posted:I'm thinking of trading in my 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo. I don't do a lot of commuting, and I'm looking for a dog car/camping vehicle. On the face of it a GC that you already own and have (maybe?) paid for and know all about etc seems like a perfectly reasonable answer to that particular question, notwithstanding having the stink of Chrysler on it. What needs do you have that you feel aren't being met by it, or, what does it do/not do for you that a replacement vehicle should do/not do?
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The title says no salvage titles and I get that 100% having a car that I totaled and rebuilt myself, but does that also apply to cars that were in accidents that got repaired without being totaled out? It will be inspected by a shop but I know that damage that pushes a part out of alignment enough to be a pain to work on can be imperceptible to the eye.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:The title says no salvage titles and I get that 100% having a car that I totaled and rebuilt myself, but does that also apply to cars that were in accidents that got repaired without being totaled out? It will be inspected by a shop but I know that damage that pushes a part out of alignment enough to be a pain to work on can be imperceptible to the eye. OMG are you kidding me? Is this about the Legacy with the rebuilt motor? Just stop. I love how you spread out just how bad things are between multiple threads while you shop for the answer you want to hear.
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Okay, I'll go with the plain old low mileage Accord I'm also looking at. I just like 4wd since I've got six months of winter. I thought this would be the appropriate place to ask this question, I'm trying to spread questions to the right threads, not shop for the answer I want. I've got a history of buying cheap cars with a questionable provenance and fixing them, but now that I'm not spending thousands per month on medical bills and am actually making decent money I'm trying to break the habit of cheaping out on everything, which is why I'm asking questions to keep me honest. I appreciate the feedback.
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Sanity is worth a lot. So is time. If you can afford it, buy stuff that doesn't drive you crazy. That's my vote.
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We've had a Delica at our rural cabin for a while and it's been a bit of a problem because almost none of the local mechanics really want to deal with the thing. You pretty much got to beg them. It's been annoying and making us a bit nervous for what happens if something major actually goes wrong, so either we personally get very good at Delica repair or we bring it back to civilization and sell it and replace it with something that the local mechanics do know. Given that Delicas are currently selling at a premium, it seems like the latter is a very good option and that's what we're going to do. So what do we replace it with? It would need to comfortably fit a family of five and need to be a good 4x4. Price: Cheaper the better. We can probably sell the Delica for C$18k, so any less than that gives us some money we can use to improve the cabin, which is always good. Can be quite high mileage since it would not be used that often. Given our history with mechanics it's gotta be something 'normal' so JDM stuff as much as I love it is off the table. This suggests that something like a 4Runner or XTerra could be good if we're looking at SUVs. Brother suggested that a pickup could be best given that it would be easier to clean if he can throw dirty stuff (eg. his dogs, deers he kills hunting) in back of a pickup and wash it down with a hose after. With that in mind a Tacoma could be good. Those seem pricy. He suggested then maybe a Nissan Frontier. Seems like there's some bad years in the middle but something before 2004 and after 2011 could be ok. Anyone have any thoughts on those? Any other options I'm not thinking of?
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Femtosecond posted:We've had a Delica at our rural cabin If a Delica is even an option I don't think many people are going to know what would constitute "normal" for wherever it is you're talking about.
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