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other than Jose Lothario, have any "ex-boxer" gimmicks worked? Not talking about boxers-turned-pro-wrestlers, specifically people who used that as their gimmick or as part of their work style
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Feels Villeneuve posted:other than Jose Lothario, have any "ex-boxer" gimmicks worked? Not talking about boxers-turned-pro-wrestlers, specifically people who used that as their gimmick or as part of their work style Depends on what you mean by worked? because Marc Mero existed and was in a mid card program. edit: Also Anthony Ogogoo worked well I thought, the booking just sucked, and then he had to get surgeried. Like I think theres an alternate universe where Anthony went over cody by punching him in the liver super hard and he goes on to have a decent mid card heel run of just one shotting nerds until Orange Cassidy or someone puts him down. edit2: Oh you meant like main event level. Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Sep 25, 2022 |
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Sep 25, 2022 17:17
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Paige was so good that Stephanie used her to jumpstart the Women's Revolution that only she could have ever done.
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Sep 25, 2022 17:20
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well Lothario was a big star, I'm pretty sure "Marvelous" Marc Mero wasn't and that wasn't even his most famous gimmick that said it's obviously subjective
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Sep 25, 2022 17:20
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Gaz-L posted:She isn't cleared to wrestle. https://twitter.com/Saraya/status/1573417991408357377?s=20&t=K5UMy-2X9TeEnZSPhwXk-A She says the dirt sheets are wrong about her not being cleared so...
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Sep 25, 2022 17:29
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Gaz-L posted:She isn't cleared to wrestle. That's why she didn't even clothesline Britt and Hayter to get them out of the ring. I'm with you on this. I know she tweeted above not believing the dirtsheets (brother), but she already tried one comeback and it failed fast after she took a kick to the back. She's a big name and I loved her way back when (was even at the post-Mania Raw where she beat AJ which was loving wild), but especially after dealing with Danielson and Punk coming in and having injuries relatively quickly I'd be wary of bringing back another name who has already had to step away due to injury once already.
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Sep 25, 2022 17:32
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Vandar posted:https://twitter.com/Saraya/status/1573417991408357377?s=20&t=K5UMy-2X9TeEnZSPhwXk-A She's also tweeted that Ronnie Radke isn't a piece of poo poo, not sure I trust her Sure something when the following appears on his bio: "Radke was kicked out of Escape the Fate in 2008 after he was sentenced to two and a half years in prison for violating a probation sentence given to him for his involvement in the killing of an 18-year old."
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Sep 25, 2022 17:33
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It’s a 50/50 shot between her neck giving out first or her terrible boyfriend doing something and the shitstorm brought about by her inevitable defending of him on twitter. Tony Khan loves a gamble.
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Sep 25, 2022 17:34
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bartok posted:Is it true that the only reason WCW hired Mikey Whipwreck is because he had a win over Steve Austin in ECW? He didn't have a tv-ready look but he was over with ecw fans due to being booked well and having enough talent to come off as more than just a gimmick. Wcw had deep pockets and talent shuffles always left companies with spots to fill. I don't think there's any secret motive, wcw loved signing ecw guys without any real understanding of what made them successful there and why it wouldn't work on a bigger stage (sandman, public enemy).
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Sep 25, 2022 17:41
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Vandar posted:https://twitter.com/Saraya/status/1573417991408357377?s=20&t=K5UMy-2X9TeEnZSPhwXk-A This has somehow turned into "she is definitely not medically cleared to wrestle, also Sting is not medically cleared to wrestle". Though admittedly the "no touching in Grand Slam debut segment" does raise eyebrows circumstantially.
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Sep 25, 2022 18:02
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telling people to ignore something doesn't mean denying it. be careful
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Sep 25, 2022 18:09
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Edge & Christian posted:Unless I missed a SCOOP, all of the "Paige isn't cleared" stuff comes from Dave Meltzer saying that he doesn't know if she is cleared or not, but that she was not cleared by WWE doctors (and neither was Sting). He said she was not cleared as of very recently. So either he's wrong (would not be surprising) or he's right but he reported it as if she is not cleared and said she would like to be cleared. A no touching segment in someone's debut doesn't raise any eyebrows.
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Sep 25, 2022 18:15
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I actually thought it was cool as hell that Saraya's mere presence was enough to clear the heels without even having to get physical. But yes who knows what comes next Even though I am a fan it certainly is funny how much she stood out on looks alone in WWE at the time and how much she fits in perfectly instead in AEW. Thank you, Vince and Johnny and hopefully Bucky Beaver soon, for leaving the industry and helping take your vile beliefs about women with you
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Sep 25, 2022 18:38
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Dr. Quarex posted:I actually thought it was cool as hell that Saraya's mere presence was enough to clear the heels without even having to get physical. But yes who knows what comes next Good news, Dunn is stronger than ever!
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Sep 25, 2022 18:40
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Has Agogo been wrestling on Dark? Because I swore I saw his name in some Dark results but otherwise I haven't seen hide nor hair of him.
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Sep 25, 2022 19:01
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ChrisBTY posted:Has Agogo been wrestling on Dark? Because I swore I saw his name in some Dark results but otherwise I haven't seen hide nor hair of him. He's had a handful of AEW Youtube matches over the summer. https://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=23823&page=4 A couple of matches elsewhere too.
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Sep 25, 2022 19:03
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ChrisBTY posted:Has Agogo been wrestling on Dark? Because I swore I saw his name in some Dark results but otherwise I haven't seen hide nor hair of him. Hes been about the UK indies a fair bit recently
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Sep 25, 2022 20:11
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Feels like he was a Cody project, and now Cody's on the other side, Ogogo's a relatively green dude with no-one going to bat for him to get TV time.
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Sep 25, 2022 21:49
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MassRafTer posted:Good news, Dunn is stronger than ever! Wonder how strong of a contract he has, or if whoever is actually in charge now (Stephanie?) even dislikes him. I don't think I've ever heard a good word about him and certainly didn't like his camera style when I watched WWE.
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Sep 25, 2022 22:51
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Wonder how strong of a contract he has, or if whoever is actually in charge now (Stephanie?) even dislikes him. He's basically #3 in the company.
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Sep 25, 2022 23:30
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Does anyone have or can obtain the who did HHH bury thread from a few years back?
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MassRafTer posted:Good news, Dunn is stronger than ever! This isn't the first or even the hundredth time WWE has disappointed me. But it is a time.
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Sep 26, 2022 00:51
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Defenestrategy posted:Like is she a good wrestler? Is she consisered great on the mic by the standards of tyool 2022? or is this more along the lines of someone bringing honky tonk man back and people going "I MEMBER THAT!" Though it's worth noting that WWE declaring you have a career-ending injury isn't necessarily actually career-ending. See also: Bryan Danielson, Edge, etc. But I can't imagine she has that many years left in her even if she's good to go. Where's Mercedes Martinez, BTW? She's still ROH Women's champion but she hasn't wrestled anywhere since July. Injury?
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Sep 26, 2022 01:31
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Wonder how strong of a contract he has, or if whoever is actually in charge now (Stephanie?) even dislikes him. A lot of folks told themselves that it was only Vince who kept Dunn around.
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Sep 26, 2022 02:41
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Dawgstar posted:A lot of folks told themselves that it was only Vince who kept Dunn around. IIRC, there was a story that came out a while back that basically said the only reason Dunn is still there is because he's basically the only person who can do his job right now (because he drove out anyone else who tried to get their foot in his particular door), and it was decided not to rock the boat further, what with all the other changes that have been going on.
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Did Akira Taue have any students? Misawa had Marufuji, Kotaro Suzuki, while Kobashi had KENTA and Shiozaki. Even Kawada had Taichi, for what it was worth. I'm just not sure about Taue?
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Lily Catts posted:Did Akira Taue have any students? Misawa had Marufuji, Kotaro Suzuki, while Kobashi had KENTA and Shiozaki. Even Kawada had Taichi, for what it was worth. I'm just not sure about Taue? He had a hand in training Sugiura
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didn't morishima pretty much become a taue guy immediately before he knew anything?
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Suplex Liberace posted:Does anyone have or can obtain the who did HHH bury thread from a few years back? Here it is: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3607447&perpage=40&noseen=1 Archives are needed.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:other than Jose Lothario, have any "ex-boxer" gimmicks worked? Not talking about boxers-turned-pro-wrestlers, specifically people who used that as their gimmick or as part of their work style Primo Carnera, apparently. Gimmick might be too strong but when you have a guy who was a boxing World Heavyweight Champion, you bill him that way.
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Dawgstar posted:A lot of folks told themselves that it was only Vince who kept Dunn around. The internet told me Dunn's dad saved weeks' worth of tapes from a burning car, and for that, Kevin was given a lush job for life he was awful at
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Here it is: Thank you!
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Red posted:The internet told me Dunn's dad saved weeks' worth of tapes from a burning car, and for that, Kevin was given a lush job for life he was awful at Yeah, I've heard that as well. He was one of the weird examples of Vince Loyalty like his limo driver who's in the Hall of Fame and other folks who were set up for life. That said I also buy the explanation Dunn's bullied his way to the point where only he can do his job, either by getting rid of people who could do his job better (so basically anybody) or nobody wants to put up with him. Why IS Mr. James Dudley who apparently only drove Vince Sr.'s limo in the hall of fame?
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Sep 26, 2022 14:51
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Dawgstar posted:Why IS Mr. James Dudley who apparently only drove Vince Sr.'s limo in the hall of fame? You may have heard of his kids, Bubba, Devon, and Spike?
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Sep 26, 2022 15:00
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i feel bad about what i said yesterday, which is a few posts up. everyone ignored it due to being embarrassed for me. thank you for the sympathy.
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Dawgstar posted:Why IS Mr. James Dudley who apparently only drove Vince Sr.'s limo in the hall of fame? 
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Sep 26, 2022 21:53
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how protected was the People's Elbow?
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Sep 27, 2022 01:14
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As I recall, it was treated like Rock was styling on his opponent. Not really a finisher. I don't think Rock ever really had a protected finisher. There was thus video game logic where the Rock Bottom was easy to hit but didn't do Tombstone Piledriver damage.
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Sep 27, 2022 01:19
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Halloween Jack posted:As I recall, it was treated like Rock was styling on his opponent. Not really a finisher. At the beginning of the people’s elbow it started that way, but once it got as over as it did it became his primary finisher. It always got kicked out of during the big matches though.
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Halloween Jack posted:As I recall, it was treated like Rock was styling on his opponent. Not really a finisher. yeah, I always saw the People's Elbow as the equivalent of like, drawing dicks on your opponent's face after you've knocked him out he could just go for the pin, but that wouldn't be... electrifying
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