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Lone Goat posted:they're also doing flashback SNC draft using the tweaked cards (and maybe the alchemy cards too?) in a week. I know they did it for Alchemy baldur's gate, but this is the most exciting use case for Alchemy rebalancing imo: on a real life standard set that fell flat. Not just for players but it might actually prove useful for design as well, to see what-could-have-been implemented and tested on such a massive scale. v excited to see how it shakes out
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Lone Goat posted:Also the nerfed cards that just rotated out of Standard (Luminarch, Faceless Haven, Goldspan, etc) get un-nerfed for Historic. This is the best news all year
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Oct 5, 2022 19:14
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Eej posted:This is the best news all year Yeah, this was a big, "do they even give a poo poo enough about Historic to remember to do it" thing, and seeing it get done is very nice.
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Oct 5, 2022 19:16
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Oct 5, 2022 19:19
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Rip symmetry sages buff... I don't think they're unbuffing the buffed cards
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Rip symmetry sages buff... izzet wizards has been one of the best decks in historic and runs a playset of it, it's deserved
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Oct 5, 2022 19:22
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actually yes, they're only reverting the mentioned cards and aren't reverting any of the other ones that rotated out; charlie's wrong it's divide by zero, esika's chariot, faceless haven, goldspan dragon, and luminarch aspirant
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looks like they were averse to nerfs but they really should have made raffine's informant a 1/1
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flatluigi posted:charlie's wrong I was just inferring from the post before me, I'm not going to make the effort to look up alchemy poo poo lol
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Oct 5, 2022 19:29
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Alchemy design is so weird. Sometimes you get absurdly pushed uncommons, sometimes you get cards that could just... trivially be published in paper and wouldn't be particularly busted there like Priest of POssibility. Just make the abilities ability tokens instead of perpetual and that card works absolutely fine in paper.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I was just inferring from the post before me, I'm not going to make the effort to look up alchemy poo poo lol I mean you cared enough to post about it v  vI'm glad to see them revert those cards (and happy that alrund is staying bopped); the historic brawl decks I've been poking at over the last few weeks are going to enjoy getting haven/chariot/aspirant back I really want to build a tokens deck with the new queen from dom u but I'm struggling with making the deck resilient, any good suggestions for cards I might be whiffing on that could help shore things up?
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thespaceinvader posted:Alchemy design is so weird. Sometimes you get absurdly pushed uncommons, sometimes you get cards that could just... trivially be published in paper and wouldn't be particularly busted there like Priest of POssibility. Just make the abilities ability tokens instead of perpetual and that card works absolutely fine in paper. i guess the only edge case is a flicker deck? you could theoretically stack up a bunch of keywords that way. in practice idk how many keywords you'd run in a flicker deck
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Hooplah posted:i guess the only edge case is a flicker deck? you could theoretically stack up a bunch of keywords that way. in practice idk how many keywords you'd run in a flicker deck It's not perfectly 1:1, for sure, but there are a bunch of mechanics that only need minor changes to work perfectly fine on paper - like the one that seeks an artefact from the top ten then shuffles. All that needs is different wording and revealing the artefact and it's... fine? IDGI
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Are they not changing epiphany back? Any other nerfs not get mentioned?
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I saw BoshNRoll play a Grixis Death's Shadow deck and thought about making it for Historic but it would require burning all the WCs I've accrued from my draft campaign lol, I'm just gonna stick to Gates
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I hope I am not the only person to regularly lose games by forgetting I have a decision on the stack and accidentally hitting decline while tapping randomly around the screen.
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I have lost a game after clicking through a bunch of triggers and accidentally skipping my attack step lol
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Wolfsbane posted:I got sick of aggro decks and built this: Yeah I've been seeing something like this more in standard ranked and I play monored. Depopulate is not nice.
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Cool little soulflayer analogue. The new Slimefoot seems fine. I like the new Arvad for brawl, but can imagine the decks playing it and 30+ removal spells being tedious.
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Unnerfing cards for historic is very good and I am excited to jam some historic humans tonight.
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wolfman101 posted:I hope I am not the only person to regularly lose games by forgetting I have a decision on the stack and accidentally hitting decline while tapping randomly around the screen. Definitely not, I do it a lot, especially when I'm playing with counterspells, since I don't do it all that often and I'm completely in the habit of clicking through the cast trigger.
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Judgy Fucker posted:Unnerfing cards for historic is very good and I am excited to jam some historic humans tonight. the patch happens tomorrow i think, with the release of the dom u alchemy cards
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I have lost a game after clicking through a bunch of triggers and accidentally skipping my attack step lol Have definitely lost more than once to this myself
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just tripped and spilled my paint on the drat computer website. sorry everyone
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I did manage to accidentally click through my turn 2 land drop recently lol. I actually somehow won that game.
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Quotey posted:just tripped and spilled my paint on the drat computer website. sorry everyone lol
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i was actually the model for that card, and it's a stunning likeness- even got the positions of my bellybuttons perfectly, and my love for cobbling bones is clear here's wizard's 4K one  https://media.wizards.com/2022/y23/en_23_Printed_ReezugtheBonecobbler.png well, the text is HD at least
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Quotey posted:i was actually the model for that card, and it's a stunning likeness- even got the positions of my bellybuttons perfectly, and my love for cobbling bones is clear Why are you so upset at an artist using a different art style  Also am I missing something or do you need to give this perpetual -1/-1 from another card or else it does nothing? Edit- the thing I am missing is that it says “greater,” not “less.”
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GonSmithe posted:Why are you so upset at an artist using a different art style does anyone else snap-read this art as a guy in a pinstripe business suit like the guy on Iron Maiden albums covers had to get work doing television advertisements for car insurance EDIT: NO WAIT 
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Shoutout to the good sport who let me resolve my first ever Triskaidekaphile win: By the way, if you're playing mono-U with a lot of instants, Academy Loremaster is busted. There's no way for the opponent to get a positive trade against that unless they're running basically the same deck as you. I found it to be way more powerful than a lot of mono-u tempo creatures. Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Oct 6, 2022 |
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Zero VGS posted:Shoutout to the good sport who let me resolve my first ever Triskaidekaphile win: can't they just draw a card then kill it in your upkeep
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hmm, should i do another DMU draft or should I consider myself done and start saving up for MTGBRO
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:hmm, should i do another DMU draft or should I consider myself done and start saving up for MTGBRO Do you enjoy the format? Is there more you think there is to learn? If yes to both then draft away unless you feel burnout. 35 drafts is a lot.
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Lone Goat posted:can't they just draw a card then kill it in your upkeep By then I'd be untapped, and if they do it during my upkeep I'm not taxed on the response to defend it. 2/3 for UU is a solid body too, not super easy to kill. I've used it in about 10 games and not once has anyone come out on top of it, but I'm using it in HBrawl where most decks are greedy. Anyway, it really feels super one-sided. It's like a significantly better Kami of the Crescent Moon because it tempts the opponent into drawing an extra card which is always a mistake if your deck can lock them down.
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i used my U/W Vehicles deck for midweek. i think i only had to change one card threw this fun self-mill deck together last night, any suggestions for changes or edits? 3 x Cut Down 3 x Eaten Alive 3 x Urborg Repossession 3 x Deathbonnet Sprout 3 x Undead Butler 2 x Liliana of the Veil 1 x Sanguine Spy 1 x Old Rutstein 2 x Body Launderer 2 x Sheoldred, the Apocalypse 2 x The Cruelty of Gix 2 x Wrenn and Seven 2 x Toxrill, the Corrosive 2 x Titan of Industry 4 x the Meathook Massacre 10 x Swamp 2 x Takenuma, Abandoned Mire 8 x Forest 3 x Deathcap Glade
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Surprised at all those SNC Alchemy changes but no change to Inspiring Overseer
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Kashuno posted:Surprised at all those SNC Alchemy changes but no change to Inspiring Overseer I guessing they didn't touch it since it's actually seeing a bit of standard play, and these tweaks are for limited.
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Lone Goat posted:Alchemy changes, some tweaks to SNC cards that likely won't matter for constructed, but they're also doing flashback SNC draft using the tweaked cards (and maybe the alchemy cards too?) in a week. Also the nerfed cards that just rotated out of Standard (Luminarch, Faceless Haven, Goldspan, etc) get un-nerfed for Historic. https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/alchemy-rebalancing-october-6-2022 Is this the first time cards have been altered for Alchemy but remain as printed in historic? I've not been paying attention to Alchemy like any right-thinking person but it seems to be yet another level of inconsistency there.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is this the first time cards have been altered for Alchemy but remain as printed in historic? I've not been paying attention to Alchemy like any right-thinking person but it seems to be yet another level of inconsistency there. "Alchemy" is only a variation of Standard. Since these cards fell out of Standard after rotation, they’re no longer Alchemy cards.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is this the first time cards have been altered for Alchemy but remain as printed in historic? I've not been paying attention to Alchemy like any right-thinking person but it seems to be yet another level of inconsistency there. It's the first time since Alchemy launched that cards rotated, so it's not inconsistent just the first opportunity they've had to show us how it works. So the precedent is now, "the first Alchemy release post-rotation, we will revert some (but not all) powerlevel adjustments we made as those alchemized cards are now only legal in Historic and Brawl." Alrund's Epiphany is still its Alchemy version for Historic/H-Brawl. Huxley fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Oct 6, 2022 |
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