BeeSeeBee posted:

The whole thing, no, it was meandering and just rehashed a bunch of stuff. Care to make a point?

e: If you're thinking the hope I mentioned is like a broad autonomous robo-taxis zipping around kinda world, I don't mean that. I mean more like in my specific locale (their backyard, so good weather for it), and if 5% of local trips could replaced, even using pre-mapped everything, in 20 years, I would be happy. I'm not optimistically hopeful, more like desperately hopeful because there's uhhh nothing else coming down the pipeline and I'm tired of getting assaulted.

starkebn posted:

Turning off the lights in my house using the switch takes literal seconds. I've never wanted them dimmer, I've never wanted them coloured.

I just don't get it

Motronic posted:

Yes, it's like you didn't even read the article. Your scaled down version of what you hope for is very unlikely outside of some other technologic breakthrough (in computing) that will fundamentally change what autonomous vehicles and most other industries that use computers will have to work with. It's going to require one of those quantum leap technologies that spurs a who era of "new stuff" that can be created because of this discovery/invention and autonomous cars will be the least of the things benefiting from something like this.

The entire point of the article is that we've hit a wall on "machine learning"/rote memorization and these vehicles will literally never be able to turn left safely unless they are on a closed course.

Humphreys posted:

Yeah. I was kinda being specific for my usage sorry.

PT6A posted:

The comment also discusses the root of many a tech nightmare: the desire to solve non-technical problems with tech solutions.

People harassing cyclists is still going to happen unless we work on solving that specific problem, because it's a problem with driver intent, not driver skill or capability.

Motronic posted:

Yes, it's like you didn't even read the article. Your scaled down version of what you hope for is very unlikely outside of some other technologic breakthrough (in computing) that will fundamentally change what autonomous vehicles and most other industries that use computers will have to work with. It's going to require one of those quantum leap technologies that spurs a who era of "new stuff" that can be created because of this discovery/invention and autonomous cars will be the least of the things benefiting from something like this.

The entire point of the article is that we've hit a wall on "machine learning"/rote memorization and these vehicles will literally never be able to turn left safely unless they are on a closed course.

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Amazon lawyers have allegedly told parents that the online retailer had a right to sell these so-called “suicide kits." The kits are described in the lawsuit as bundled items that Amazon suggests buyers purchase together, including a potentially lethal chemical called sodium nitrite, a scale to measure a lethal dose, a drug to prevent vomiting, and a book with instructions on how to use the chemical to attempt suicide. The online retailer’s lawyers also allegedly said that it would be “unfair and inhumane” to hold Amazon liable for the teens’ deaths.

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The table is too small for the large plates we are sharing as a second course: a slow-cooked lamb that melts in the mouth, chillies in a walnut-based sauce and shrimp in creamy chipotle sauce. Musk is right: it is the best Mexican food I’ve ever had.

We turn to his views on government and politics and the Twitter Musk appears, the more emotional, unrestrained persona that comes across in his frenetic posts. He is lauding billionaires as the most efficient stewards of capital, best placed to decide on the allocation of social benefits. “If the alternative steward of capital is the government, that is actually not going to be to the benefit of the people,” says Musk.

He is railing against Joe Biden for being in thrall to the unions but also daring to snub him. “He [Biden] had an electric vehicle summit at the White House and deliberately didn’t invite Tesla last year. Then to follow it up, to add insult to injury, at a big event he said that GM was leading the electric car revolution, in the same quarter that GM shipped 26 electric cars and we shipped 300,000. Does that seem fair to you?”

Until recently Musk voted Democrat, although he is now more on the Republican side, or perhaps floating somewhere in between. He says he is considering setting up “the Super Moderate Super Pac” to support candidates with moderate views. He makes a point of telling me that he doesn’t hate Trump, even if he has clashed with him, and insists Biden is simply too old to run for a second term in office. “You don’t want to be too far from the average age of the population because it’s going to be very difficult to stay in touch . . . Maybe one generation away from the average age is OK, but two generations? At the point where you’ve got great-grandchildren, I don’t know, how in touch with the people are you? Is it even possible to be?”

Musk has a dystopian view of the left’s influence on America, which helps explain his wild pursuit of Twitter to liberate free speech. He blames the fact that his teenage daughter no longer wants to be associated with him on the supposed takeover of elite schools and universities by neo-Marxists. “It’s full-on communism . . . and a general sentiment that if you’re rich, you’re evil,” says Musk. “It [the relationship] may change, but I have very good relationships with all the others [children]. Can’t win them all.”

He also has a dim view of regulators, whom he sees as bureaucrats justifying their jobs by going after high-profile targets like him. He seems to be in a constant feud with one regulator or another, whether it’s over his own pronouncements or over the treatment of staff. Musk is unabashed about driving his employees hard. He was bullied as a child (and has also spoken of emotional abuse by his father) but is now sometimes accused of bullying others. He shoots back: if anyone is unhappy working for him, they should work elsewhere because “they’re not chained to the company, it’s voluntary”.

Does he ever think he’s above the law? That’s utter nonsense, he tells me: “I’m subject to literally a million laws and regulations and I obey almost 99.99 per cent of them. It’s only when I think the law is contrary to the interest of the people that I have an issue.” I wonder if he means the interest of Elon Musk.

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There are some topics that amuse Musk, eliciting prolonged laughter, and other questions that are met with deliberate silence before he speaks. The longest silence follows my question about China and the risk to Tesla’s Shanghai factory, which produces between 30 per cent and 50 per cent of Tesla’s total production. Musk has been an admirer of as well as an investor in China. But he is not immune to the gathering US-China tensions or the risk of a Chinese takeover of Taiwan. Musk says Beijing has made clear its disapproval of his recent rollout of Starlink, SpaceX’s satellite communications system, in Ukraine to help the military circumvent Russia’s cut-off of the internet. He says Beijing sought assurances that he would not sell Starlink in China. 

Musk reckons that conflict over Taiwan is inevitable but he is quick to point out that he won’t be alone in suffering the consequences. Tesla will be caught up in any conflict, he says, though, curiously, he seems to assume that the Shanghai factory will still be able to supply to customers in China, but not anywhere else. “Apple would be in very deep trouble, that’s for sure . . . ” he adds, not to mention the global economy, which he estimates, with precision, will take a 30 per cent hit. 

It may be Musk’s realisation that business decisions can no longer be made without regard to security and geopolitics — or perhaps it’s simply an arrogant belief that he has all the answers — that now leads him to offer his own solutions to the world’s most complex geopolitical problems. “My recommendation . . . would be to figure out a special administrative zone for Taiwan that is reasonably palatable, probably won’t make everyone happy. And it’s possible, and I think probably, in fact, that they could have an arrangement that’s more lenient than Hong Kong.” I doubt his proposal will be taken up. 

On Ukraine too, he has advocated a compromise with Russia that has earned him ridicule in Kyiv, where Starlink had made him a hero until now. He launched his peace plan in a poll on Twitter and suggested that Crimea, which Russia invaded in 2014 and later annexed, should simply be given away to Russia. Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the Ukrainian president, shot back with his own Twitter poll: which Elon Musk do you like more, he asked, the one who supports Ukraine or the one who supports Russia?

Jose Valasquez posted:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/10/amazon-suicide-kits-have-led-to-teen-deaths-according-to-new-lawsuit/

Vegetable posted:

I shout “Lights out” and my google nest turns out the lights. It’s great.

Civilized Fishbot posted:

More accurately you have to shout "OK Google, lights out" right? I thought Google was going to get rid of that at some point but I never heard about it happening

EDIT: Apparently it only works with the most expensive speaker model lol.

Neo Rasa posted:

Does it learn your voice or can you link people to like a YouTube clip of someone shouting "OK Google, lights out"

Kwyndig posted:

Didn't they eventually put in a nonverbal cue for picture taking, but had it make a sound every time a picture was taken?

Detective No. 27 posted:

I think the only game that Zuck has played in the past decade is Civ5. I only know this because he joined a Civ5 Facebook group a friend is in.

Foxfire_ posted:

PhazonLink posted:

tbf, how many fps'es actually model your legs when you look down?

tbf2 I guess this means you shouldn't model the body either, just rayman arms.

Nenonen posted:

Maybe he needs to ask Tarantino's assistance.

PhazonLink posted:

tbf, how many fps'es actually model your legs when you look down?

tbf2 I guess this means you shouldn't model the body either, just rayman arms.

Foxfire_ posted:

Detective No. 27 posted:

Hey remember back when Zuckerburg said that they got that leg technology for the metaverse side project thing that nobody uses?

Turns out it was a lie.

https://twitter.com/seldo/status/1580714050706554880

Thomamelas posted:

They made a big deal about having Rob Leefield handle this project. And we all warned them, but did they listen.....

PhazonLink posted:

listening to ScienceFriday and their segment about "gamification", lol at Amazon having some pokemon ripoff to make people box or find things faster.

god and I thought ubisoft, their towers, and checklists were bad.