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precision posted:then why did profits and stock fall??? Keep in mind, Wizards is still hoovering in money. "Profits fell 16%" means that the CEO of Hasbro bought four new summer homes instead of five.
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Wittgen posted:I don't watch all his videos, but I'm confused by the perception of the prof as making overwhelmingly negative content. He's usually extremely positive about each release, but then complains about how it being overpriced and under printed is bad for the long term health of the game. That seems pretty correct to me. If he's saying it all the time, I think it's because it keeps being a relevant point. I avoid anything he's in these days. I've seen him on other series I enjoy and he seems to be playing some kind of smug character. I've also seen other personalities that I've enjoyed on other channels but when they play in Shuffle Up And Play they're uncharacteristically mean. It's like everyone including him are trying to be wrestling heels. I've never seen him review a set, but the "overwhelmingly negative" thing lines up with what I've seen of him.
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generatrix posted:I avoid anything he's in these days. I've seen him on other series I enjoy and he seems to be playing some kind of smug character. I've also seen other personalities that I've enjoyed on other channels but when they play in Shuffle Up And Play they're uncharacteristically mean. It's like everyone including him are trying to be wrestling heels. I've never seen him review a set, but the "overwhelmingly negative" thing lines up with what I've seen of him.
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Oct 19, 2022 18:06
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generatrix posted:I've never seen him review a set, but This might be it, then. In his set and product reviews, he tends to be very even handed and straightforward about what he likes and doesn't like about something. For example, I think quote:It's really cool to see so many fun and unique designs for the new cards alongside so many Stellar reprints. I mean the grixis deck comes with dark ritual and brainstorm! From top to bottom from flavor to power to reprint quality to financial value to game play Wizards of the Coast and I suppose Games Workshop has knocked this collaboration out of the park. is about as nuanced and fair a review as one can make. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU6BHuIBXzY
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Oct 19, 2022 18:08
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generatrix posted:I avoid anything he's in these days. I've seen him on other series I enjoy and he seems to be playing some kind of smug character. I've also seen other personalities that I've enjoyed on other channels but when they play in Shuffle Up And Play they're uncharacteristically mean. It's like everyone including him are trying to be wrestling heels. I've never seen him review a set, but the "overwhelmingly negative" thing lines up with what I've seen of him. I don't get it either. What exactly about him is wholesome?
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Gynovore posted:Keep in mind, Wizards is still hoovering in money. "Profits fell 16%" means that the CEO of Hasbro bought four new summer homes instead of five. Also probably obvious to everyone but there's a big difference between profit and revenue and there was a long period where international shipping and materials went up 500–1000%, profit falling does not necessarily mean that revenue or sales fell at all
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I collect. My eventual goal is to get one of every printing. I am very lucky that my LGS lets me do trade-ins of non-Magic stuff for store credit to buy Magic stuff. I've paid for everything past New Capenna by flipping RPGs, comics, Pokemon, YuGiOh, etc. I found at yard sales and thrift shops. I would be incredibly poor if I had to pay for the past six months of product out of pocket.
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Oct 19, 2022 18:32
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Lol so they are just going to take your money and ship the product 7 months late. Love to give billion dollar companies interest free loans!
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Oct 19, 2022 19:30
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I care about every new release because I own and maintain a cube, and most of these sets have at least one juiced up nonsense card that I'm interested in picking up. It can be pretty obnoxious when you feel like you're on top of things only to find out that there was this other random product released a couple weeks ago which you completely missed, full of wordy multiplayer chaff that may or may not have a card for you which is busted in 1v1. So then I feel obliged to read everything, when in the past I was really excited for the spoiler seasons of sets prior to 2018/19. I totally buy into most of the complaints that content creators have re: content overload. Most of the complaining boils down to "I've only just got this new set/product, and now we're immediately in spoiler season again - let me enjoy this new stuff for a few weeks at least". WotC's lust for perpetual hype makes each product feel like churn and cardboard fast-food (for lack of a better term). It's basically the Funko Pop-ification of Magic at this point.
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Oct 19, 2022 19:38
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Paul Zuvella posted:Lol so they are just going to take your money and ship the product 7 months late. Love to give billion dollar companies interest free loans! no the sale ends next month and then ships a few weeks after.
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Oct 19, 2022 19:49
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You have 30 minutes to move your cube.
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kalel posted:The only people really complaining are the content creators, and they also happen to be the loudest and most visible members of the community Wittgen posted:I don't watch all his videos, but I'm confused by the perception of the prof as making overwhelmingly negative content. He's usually extremely positive about each release, but then complains about how it being overpriced and under printed is bad for the long term health of the game. That seems pretty correct to me. If he's saying it all the time, I think it's because it keeps being a relevant point. Panderfringe posted:I don't get it either. What exactly about him is wholesome?
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the most insane thing to me in Prof's 30th anniversary video is he seems to argue that it'd be fun to draft. It's the most boring limited and constructed environment of all time. Play with Moxen and Lotus in cube as Garfield intended.
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precision posted:only this thread could hate the Professor lmao Yeah I don't get the hate/sideways glances at his content either. The guy comes across as an uptight stuffy guy as a character he plays in skits but like on his Shuffle Up and Play stuff he's just as neurotic and nervous and excited to play the game as the rest of us. He signal boosts smaller channels, appears in channels for card games he doesn't even play just to learn what it's about and like everyone has a good time. The episode before last with Tappy and Princess where he gives this long diatribe about what this deck meant to him and the nostalgia he holds for it, only to give into peer pressure to mulligan and just ABSOLUTELY sulk about his new hand, was probably the most relatable thing I've ever seen.   I do wish there were new deck boxes and sleeves to review though, I do enjoy the product reviews. Jiro fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Oct 19, 2022 |
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Aphrodite posted:You have 30 minutes to move your cube. Magic: The Gathering: Is it about my cube?
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AngryBooch posted:the most insane thing to me in Prof's 30th anniversary video is he seems to argue that it'd be fun to draft. It's the most boring limited and constructed environment of all time. Maybe once just as a gimmick it would be interesting to see what that was like. But yeah, even if these things were priced appropriately at less than a normal booster pack, I can't see them being for much other than nostalgia. Most of the cards are bad, and the few that are good are not legal in the majority of formats and these specific versions aren't even legal* any format. I would have bought a pack or two just for fun, but beyond that they're pretty pointless. I also don't see what's wrong with the Professor, he seems to be on the level and on the side of the people who like the play the game rather than the corporation and the people who view it as their retirement fund. His Shuffle Up and Play videos are fun, I especially liked the budget Commander and Pauper episodes, and the latter one introduced me to Rhystic Studies and Spice8Rack who both make interesting videos. *In the second context of "legal" I say gently caress WotC, if the card is format-legal then proxy away
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Serf posted:Maybe once just as a gimmick it would be interesting to see what that was like. It's really really bad. Lone Goat posted:They've done it before, twice! It's massively boring because almost all the cards suck rear end!
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Oct 19, 2022 20:23
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fadam posted:I play lots of formats and pay attention to every spoiler season and I’m not exhausted/burned out because reading about and buying Magic cards is actually one of the easiest things you can do lol Here is a something that I enjoy. I bookmark the decks in the formats I like from MTGgoldfish and every once in a while I will go view how they are doing or what has changed with them. gently caress spoiler seasons and trying to read all them cards. Just tell me what is good.
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Oct 19, 2022 20:31
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And on the subject of deck boxes and sleeves... Ultimate guard seems to really have figured out basically any good innovation in all those areas. I can be safe to say that if I buy ultimate guard version of X product, the poo poo is going to be tip top. They make the best deck boxes, the best sleeves, the best playmat tubes, and whatever other dumb nerd poo poo you want to buy.
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Oct 19, 2022 20:34
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Paul Zuvella posted:Lol so they are just going to take your money and ship the product 7 months late. Love to give billion dollar companies interest free loans! Secret lairs are maximum effeciency. The loving things are even printed yet and they will print to order how much people buy and little more. When its done, its done, and they will move on to the next one. The consumer is takes on the wait times, the upfront money, and the risk of not getting the product and Wizards takes no risk. 
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Aphrodite posted:You can't double sleeve with theirs, if that matters to you. Can't double sleeve katana? Because without a doubt you can.
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Not with KMCs you can't. Only the finest Japanese plastic is fit to touch your cards.
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Sickening posted:Secret lairs are maximum effeciency. The loving things are even printed yet and they will print to order how much people buy and little more. When its done, its done, and they will move on to the next one. The consumer is takes on the wait times, the upfront money, and the risk of not getting the product and Wizards takes no risk. Also they don't even piss off the secondary market much because with few exceptions, the cards they reprint in SL are junk
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Re: token chat, I made a couple recently including some EVA pilot tokens:     
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You forgot the Creature type on the pilots. And it's as though its power were 2 greater. Modern tokens have Token listed like it's a supertype, but it's not so shrug.
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Sickening posted:Secret lairs are maximum effeciency. The loving things are even printed yet and they will print to order how much people buy and little more. When its done, its done, and they will move on to the next one. The consumer is takes on the wait times, the upfront money, and the risk of not getting the product and Wizards takes no risk. Wait how do you risk not getting product? It's not like they won't refund you if for some reason they can't fulfill the order.
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Lone Goat posted:It's really really bad. Im' actually watching that draft. They just opened a 6 lands pack, all the uncommons were lands. Followed by a 7 lands one.
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Eej posted:Wait how do you risk not getting product? It's not like they won't refund you if for some reason they can't fulfill the order. I mean it in the fact that you are paying for a product that you might not even get and if you don't get it, its way to late to reorder it. Sure you get your money back.
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I've only recently started watching the Professor, and I like him. I can see why people think he's negative though, there's a certain snark/cynicism that bleeds through in all his content, even the fun gameplay videos. And in those he'll trade jabs with his friends. It's just smack-talk, but it doesn't come off as positive. I actually like the non-stop preview season WotC has going on. I just love seeing new cards, okay? What I don't like is the money-grabbing stuff, even if it doesn't affect me directly, like replacing the free Arena draft for attending an in-person prerelease with just a couple of worthless packs, increasing the price of packs, offering something insulting for that cosplay contest, not paying attention to unhealthy formats, and of course the $999 Beta proxies, among other things. It's not the constant stream of new stuff that bothers me, it's all the other lovely business practices.
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I'd like to try drafting the original set once in a "lol this is hilariously bad" sort of way. I don't want it badly enough to pay $750 for it though
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precision posted:only this thread could hate the Professor lmao He’s terrible
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I’m glad they are making lots of stuff because I enjoy playing the game and variety keeps it interesting to me.
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My 15 dollar Chinese proxies came in. They are off in enough ways that nobody would ever think they are real, but I should absolutely still find a way to mark them even if it’s just to guard against my children thinking they’ve won the lottery in 20 years when they stumble across my collection. It’ll be nice making a few edh decks out of the non-absurd cards. It’d feel scummy just plopping in a bayou or cradle, but having fetches, some tutors and stuff like snapcaster is great.
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meanolmrcloud posted:My 15 dollar Chinese proxies came in. They are off in enough ways that nobody would ever think they are real, but I should absolutely still find a way to mark them even if it’s just to guard against my children thinking they’ve won the lottery in 20 years when they stumble across my collection. Like that's cool and all but I don't think it's necessary to tell the thread every time someone orders counterfeits
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meanolmrcloud posted:My 15 dollar Chinese proxies came in. They are off in enough ways that nobody would ever think they are real, but I should absolutely still find a way to mark them even if it’s just to guard against my children thinking they’ve won the lottery in 20 years when they stumble across my collection. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCJyGy6AFJo
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They're gonna do a Beta draft during the World Championship right? I hope we have that taped somewhere, it'll be hilarious to watch some highlights Honestly if they wanted to keep it closer to how Garfield Intended, they'd do Alpha/Beta/Unlimited sealed - give everyone that 75 card pack to build a deck and let it rip
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ilmucche posted:Like that's cool and all but I don't think it's necessary to tell the thread every time someone orders counterfeits  You really don't have to tell the thread how much you dislike counterfeits every time its mentioned either. Be the change you want to be. Don't pm me about it either.
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