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Upon further reflection, I have a feeling were looking at another horseman. I bet it’s death, since it revived Yuko sort of E: Hidingo Kojimba posted:Given the “sister” line I assumed it was Nayuta (Control 2.0) since it’s not like she ages on a human scale anyway. Could also be Death or Famine I guess. Beat me to it
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I actually thought she was going to turn Yuko into a weapon.
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Oct 25, 2022 16:19
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She has Makima's eyes. 
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Oct 25, 2022 16:20
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Also the line about yuko not having to give up anything for her contract reinforces my feeling that the Justice devil gives people power because it always ends with them getting what they deserve
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Oct 25, 2022 16:21
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I think we're finally meeting Nayuta. I don't know if they gave specifics in universe but Conquest is one of the traditional Horsemen and I vaguely remember Control and Conquest being similar kanji in Japanese.
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Oct 25, 2022 16:32
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I immediately assumed it was Nayuta since she has Makima's eyes and she was already much older than she should have been if she aged normally at the end of part 1. Death is a fair guess though.
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Oct 25, 2022 16:43
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Her earrings look like scales, which could represent both Justice and Famine. Her eyes are like Makima's, though, so I'm leaning towards another Horseman.
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Oct 25, 2022 16:45
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huge lmao at the “kill la kill, but dying inside” spreads
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Rabid Boar posted:Her earrings look like scales, which could represent both Justice and Famine. Her eyes are like Makima's, though, so I'm leaning towards another Horseman. e: nvm i actually misread the line, i think symbolic fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Oct 25, 2022 |
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Oct 25, 2022 16:50
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Also the line about yuko not having to give up anything for her contract reinforces my feeling that the Justice devil gives people power because it always ends with them getting what they deserve I read that line about recieving a "heart the shines with the light of justice" in exchange for the powers meant that the justice devil's price for the contract was altering Yuko's sense of justice to match the devil's I also think the girl is Nayhuta but thought the little sister was refering to Asa since if Control = Conquest then her being possesed by another horseman could be seen as being related Drashin fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Oct 25, 2022 |
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Oct 25, 2022 16:51
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Yoru: "yo sorry bout your mom... she def would have been a strong weapon"
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Oct 25, 2022 17:23
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Yeah I’m thinking that was Death due to the little sister comment and reviving someone. By the way, if War is the younger sister of Death then their age is probably in order of appearance so Conquest/Control is the youngest, followed by War, Famine, and Death as the oldest. EDIT: Oh wait, her earrings might be scales, which would make her Famine. Not sure why she would be able to revive a devil though RatHat fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Oct 25, 2022 |
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Oct 25, 2022 17:34
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Yeah, I'm kinda hoping she is not Nayuta. Her going back to Makima-style behavior after all of Chainsaw Man 1 and whatever efforts Denji could muster in the meantime would be pretty disappointing.
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Oct 25, 2022 17:42
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the new character doesn't look anything like nayuta. I agree it's probably a horseman devil or some other strong devil (who would consider war a LITTLE sister? death seems right!)
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Terper posted:Yoru: "yo sorry bout your mom... she def would have been a strong weapon" Yoru: "Soooo... was your mom cremated? Or should we make a shovel real quick?"
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Terper posted:Yoru: "yo sorry bout your mom... she def would have been a strong weapon" i'm glad chainsaw man has become a heartwarming tale about friendship, love, and the mementos of those we left behind being turned into cool swords
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She has even more face moles than Kobeni. Really putting Tung Shu to the test
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Yoru's eyes are the same, that pattern isn't unique to Control, it's not Nayuta.
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She looks nothing like Nayuta, you guys are mental
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Where in part 1 are horsemen mentioned? Is it a translation thing? When they go to hell they mention that death is one of the "primal fears" but I don't remember "horsemen" ever being established. I'll also admit I may just be misremembering.
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CodfishCartographer posted:Where in part 1 are horsemen mentioned? Is it a translation thing? When they go to hell they mention that death is one of the "primal fears" but I don't remember "horsemen" ever being established. Makima talks about them in chapter 87. I imagine you could probably stretch it into something else, but between Makima almost certainly being conquest and War showing up it's fairly moot at this point. Supremezero fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Oct 25, 2022 |
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I agree she doesn't look like young Nayuta we saw at the end of part 1, but those earrings don't look anything like scales, they're definitely chainsaw starters, which would be weird unless this is Nayuta. Or unless it turns out all the horsemen are obsessed with Chainsaw Man, which would be funny.
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Sindai posted:I agree she doesn't look like young Nayuta we saw at the end of part 1, but those earrings don't look anything like scales, they're definitely chainsaw starters, which would be weird unless this is Nayuta. Or unless the other horsemen are also obsessed with Chainsaw Man, which would be funny. Chainsaw Man is also incredibly popular in Hell.
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Supremezero posted:Makima talks about them in chapter 87. I imagine you could probably stretch it into something else, but between Makima almost certainly being conquest and War showing up it's fairly moot at this point. The fan scanlations translated Makima's line there as "battling four knights" instead of The Four Horsemen, which is like literally accurate but loses some significant meaning.
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https://twitter.com/hyeon_0613/status/1584184114919268353?t=cnxdYqq_eeHFTjNc8bZB8g&s=19
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They're scales without the weighting plates, which might be a bit clunky to draw I think. More importantly, a fellow I know after a spot of research pointed this interesting little factoid out. Namely, that some authors interpret the Third Rider as 'The Lord as a Law-Giver', bearing the set of scales. Sounds a lot like a certain Justice Devil that apparently exists, no? What I'm trying to say is "Apparently Part 2 is Teen Girl Devil Squad vs Chainsawman" apparently since we've now more-or-less confirmed 3/4 of the Horsemen are ladies, and I love it, though I hope Asa gets out of it okay  Yoru can live too.
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In chapter 87 makima says chainsaw defeated the weapon devils and the 4 horsemen in hell then disappeared. would explain why they're all on earth
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Thinking about other things that could be made into weapons, how about food? If a lot of time and feeling is put into making something, that should make a strong weapon, right?
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Yeah, as I recall Makima says chainsaw man fought the four horsemen and the weapon devils before vanishing from "our" sight, implying she was one of them. That and Conquest/Control Devil are the same word in Japanese.
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Getting more details on that final battle will be neat. Since Makima can remember it, she survived relatively intact. War survived but lost chunks of herself (nukes, WW2, others maybe). I feel like control/war/famine are MUCH weaker than Death. Death has gotta be darkness devil power level. The scales-like earrings are why I’m leaning towards this new character being famine again. That and my assumption that deaths power level is ludicrous that just being around it is some spiritual pressure poo poo. Or maybe not, can’t wait till next week! Bread Set Jettison fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Oct 25, 2022 |
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Jerkface posted:In chapter 87 makima says chainsaw defeated the weapon devils and the 4 horsemen in hell then disappeared. would explain why they're all on earth I don’t think that battle was actually in Hell if all the devils involved remember it
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I have a different theory: This is Yuko’s literal older sister who has a stronger contract with the Justice devil and can therefore revive her.
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RatHat posted:I don’t think that battle was actually in Hell if all the devils involved remember it We've seen characters enter and leave hell before without dying, Denji's been there twice technically, there's a few ways we already know (hell devil, spider devil summon) and probably a lot of ways we don't. I think Death would count as a primal fear so I don't think they'd be likely to be outside of hell, and while Darkness was able to send part of itself out to the Doll Devil I doubt this is a similar deal.
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Angel Devil outright states that even if devils don't remember the exact circumstances of their deaths, they all remembered the last thing they heard: the sound of chainsaws revving. Wouldn't be too hard for the smarter devils to put it together.
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Here’s a really rad Lego Chainsawman
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New chapter confirms that what a weapon is made of doesn't matter, what matters is how the maker feels about it. So the weapons Yoru has been making out of humans have been weak because Your doesn't care about humans, but a sword Asa made out of a school uniform is incredibly strong because it had genuine sentimental value to her. That "shining heart" comment makes me think Justice Devil turns you into a serial killer after you make a contract with them. It's happened twice now, that's pretty suspicious I'd say. Poor Asa, once again her desire to save someone has made a situation worse. This is some Kobeni levels of "God is keeping you alive just to gently caress with you"
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Getting more details on that final battle will be neat. Since Makima can remember it, she survived relatively intact. War survived but lost chunks of herself (nukes, WW2, others maybe). I think that Control is probably much stronger than War or Famine in the setting, even though she's weaker than Death. War has been a thing of the past for decades, famine is a rare problem in most of the world... but control? In a world where your elected authorities can sell your life to a devil at a moment's notice, and that's if you're even lucky enough to be able to vote on them? Yeah, fear of authority is going to be real common.
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chiasaur11 posted:I think that Control is probably much stronger than War or Famine in the setting, even though she's weaker than Death. War has been a thing of the past for decades, famine is a rare problem in most of the world... but control? In a world where your elected authorities can sell your life to a devil at a moment's notice, and that's if you're even lucky enough to be able to vote on them? Wait, is famine a rare problem in the Chainsaw Man world? Because hunger and food insecurity is very much still a huge issue in the real world, and when we first met Denji he was living on the edge of starvation so we know not having access to food is still a problem that exists. Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Oct 25, 2022 |
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chiasaur11 posted:I think that Control is probably much stronger than War or Famine in the setting, even though she's weaker than Death. War has been a thing of the past for decades, famine is a rare problem in most of the world... but control? In a world where your elected authorities can sell your life to a devil at a moment's notice, and that's if you're even lucky enough to be able to vote on them? Eeeh, there are huge parts of the world where famine was, is or soon will be a deadly issue and I can't see Chainsaw Man world being much different. EDIT: Ninja'ed
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