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mishima so fuckin good. im really glad i took that course on japanese history, was so worth it to be able to read all his books
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Gaius Marius posted:I'm sorry that I didn't read the book with a Marxist-Leninist-Femininst lens, I clearly didn't understand a word of it. I'm stepping out on this as I didn't mean to make more that that one initial post tbh corn haver fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Dec 15, 2022 |
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I endorse meninism.
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everyone should endorse marxism though
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a.p. dent posted:i liked Anna Karenina because i could picture everything that was happening, like a movie Just watch a movie, saves a lot of time. You could watch several movies instead, even
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derp posted:mishima so fuckin good. im really glad i took that course on japanese history, was so worth it to be able to read all his books Yeah, I've always been grateful for my Japanese lit classes from college, although I'm realizing now that I never read Spring Snow when it was assigned and that was a big idiot move. I did get to watch my professor read his Kenzaburo Oe fanfiction to the class, though!
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derp posted:everyone should endorse marxism though
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derp posted:everyone should endorse marxism though it's so boring now
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dammit, too many educated people in these threads. i never took any japanese history class, or any lit class of any kind. i just read books. you don't need education or excessive study to enjoy books, and im living proof. ive read 8 or 9 mishima novels he's probably my second favorite author and i know nothing about japan. just read the books.
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derp posted:everyone should endorse marxism though It's probably not the only way to understand or interpret literature, though. Unless nobody understood what stories and fiction meant before the 19th Century.
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i feel like this thread has gotten stupid because nobody has mentioned that everyone should be reading Solenoid by Mircea Cartarescu, recently released in English translation by Sean Cotter and published by Deep Vellum and probably the best book of the last decade or so if you read this thread and like the good suggestions, but dislike the bad ones
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Cartarescu seems like one of those guys who has been on the verge of major international recognition for like 20 years despite his stuff coming out in translation at the not always comprehensible whims of a handful of editors. I loved the Blinding/Orbitor novels and what I've read of his early poetry, and it's very appealing that Solenoid & Melancolia sound like they're plugging away at the same questions his work has always grappled with and offering ever more nightmarish answers
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NikkolasKing posted:It's probably not the only way to understand or interpret literature, though. Unless nobody understood what stories and fiction meant before the 19th Century. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say that perhaps they didn’t, or at least that the meaning has changed. This is not limited to Marxism, though.
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lost in postation posted:Cartarescu seems like one of those guys who has been on the verge of major international recognition for like 20 years despite his stuff coming out in translation at the not always comprehensible whims of a handful of editors. I loved the Blinding/Orbitor novels and what I've read of his early poetry, and it's very appealing that Solenoid & Melancolia sound like they're plugging away at the same questions his work has always grappled with and offering ever more nightmarish answers if by 'international' you mean 'in america' then yeah, otherwise he's got tons of recognition and awards and huge fan base all around the world, and his books are translated into like 20 languages
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derp posted:if by 'international' you mean 'in america' then yeah, otherwise he's got tons of recognition and awards and huge fan base all around the world, and his books are translated into like 20 languages I don't mean that at all since I'm French and I was thinking of the fact that his French translator has had to lobby 3 different publishers since the 90s so that his novels would keep coming out here despite universally rave reviews. I guess in the past 5-6 years or so he has been picking up a lot more steam
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yeah ime as well he's pretty niche. niche and internationally recognized aren't mutually exclusive though. not sure about huge fan bases either but far from an expert. also glowing reviews don't necessarily mean economic success, and based on the page count of the three books of his i own, translators' fees are probably pretty high for what are likely purely image-building titles for a publishing house
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I don't know that guy since literalily I live in the 19th century. I'm reading Mirbeau who lost in postation recommended here like eight years ago
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Ras Het posted:I don't know that guy since literalily I live in the 19th century. I'm reading Mirbeau who lost in postation recommended here like eight years ago Oh cool I hope you like him! I've always enjoyed how prickly and ill-tempered and anti-everything his basic attitude to life and literature was
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lost in postation posted:I don't mean that at all since I'm French and I was thinking of the fact that his French translator has had to lobby 3 different publishers since the 90s so that his novels would keep coming out here despite universally rave reviews. I guess in the past 5-6 years or so he has been picking up a lot more steam at least you got all of orbitor. in english we got only the first one, 10 years ago
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we're getting solenoid next year up here in norway, but all of orbitor has alreasdy been translated though
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has anyone read the moscoviad?
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Good books written by raging right wing nob heads please
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Idaholy Roller posted:Good books written by raging right wing nob heads please Honestly my favorite novels are written by the worst people. They're just baseline more interesting because their psychosis just bleeds through the writing
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Heath posted:Honestly my favorite novels are written by the worst people. They're just baseline more interesting because their psychosis just bleeds through the writing Same holds true for all mediums of art. You don't have to be an rear end in a top hat to make good art, but you do have to be a weirdo whose thought process is outside the norm. And those kind of people also tend to fall into political and social fringes and do things that are not morally correct.
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its nothing as fancy as the iconoclastic allure of the genius, it's just that most people throughout history who have had enough free time to get good at writing have that free time because they are independently wealthy, and therefore their interests are right wing interests
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Idaholy Roller posted:Good books written by raging right wing nob heads please tarr by wyndham lewis and pleasure by gabriele d'annunzio. lewis is one of the anglo american modernist fascists like pound, and d'annunzio set up a fascist city state whose consitution inspired mussolini. the books are cool too
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CestMoi posted:its nothing as fancy as the iconoclastic allure of the genius, it's just that most people throughout history who have had enough free time to get good at writing have that free time because they are independently wealthy, and therefore their interests are right wing interests Then how does it hold equally true for Left Wing artists
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Gaius Marius posted:Then how does it hold equally true for Left Wing artists Does it?
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CestMoi posted:i feel like this thread has gotten stupid because nobody has mentioned that everyone should be reading Solenoid by Mircea Cartarescu, recently released in English translation by Sean Cotter and published by Deep Vellum and probably the best book of the last decade or so if you read this thread and like the good suggestions, but dislike the bad ones Saw this post while getting ready to run an errand in the neighbourhood, so I took the extra block to the local indy bookstore to see if they had Solenoid in, and if not I would order it through them. And they had at least two copies! Now one.  Dangerous place. Right below Solenoid's display was a wide range of Calvino's books, and to get there I had to walk past the new Cormac McCarthy novels. I could be so broke.
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CestMoi posted:tarr by wyndham lewis and pleasure by gabriele d'annunzio. lewis is one of the anglo american modernist fascists like pound, and d'annunzio set up a fascist city state whose consitution inspired mussolini. the books are cool too wow I got a fairly different impression of d'annunzio from Scurati's M. in regards to what Mussolini thought of him I could easily have gotten that all wrong though
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My impression of tarr is i should have read nietzsche before reading it, it's very much that kind of book e: also cartarescu is v good but my copy of solenoid is yet to be delivered unto me
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Also Dostoevsky fits pretty neatly into the right wing nob head category, we’re just not trained to pick up on Slavophilia as a political category
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Thank you for the meme, forums poster. Please consider never doing it again and maybe shoving that horrid poo poo back up your arse
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Jrbg posted:Thank you for the meme, forums poster. Please consider never doing it again and maybe shoving that horrid poo poo back up your arse especially since Henry IV, Part 1 is excellent and among my favourite of his plays. But those Joans gotta stick together I guess.
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Really regretting not picking up Against the Day sooner, the first 50 pages have been the most fun I've had reading in years. The Chums of Chance, and the absolute mad lad Franz Ferdinand is some inspired poo poo.
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Gaius Marius posted:Really regretting not picking up Against the Day sooner, the first 50 pages have been the most fun I've had reading in years. The Chums of Chance, and the absolute mad lad Franz Ferdinand is some inspired poo poo. Oh boy are you in for a treat
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I love Against the Day, it's such a great idea for a book, especially in the giant hundreds-of-characters-with-excellent-names Pynchon style.
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i actually read moby dick for the first time today. immediately hooked, this is great
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