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Vim Fuego posted:
All my coworkers are looking at me oddly now. Apparently my "Oh gently caress no!" reaction was said out loud.
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that is the kind of picture that should only be taken with a telescope from at least a quarter-mile away
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Crappy Construction: I have no interest in completing projects
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Thought I was in the vending about students thread for a second there.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Crappy Construction: I have no interest in completing projects
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Cyrano4747 posted:Crappy Construction: I have no interest in completing projects
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If he has no interest in completing projects, then maybe the owners have no interest in paying him. That building looks like a headache and a half to work on.
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I hope they have a hot gas bypass valve
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Cyrano4747 posted:Crappy Construction: I have no interest in completing projects 
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That's just apparently standard for famous modern architects. It makes a lot of sense when you realise 'architect' has been the 'it sounds cool for a character to have' job for so long that the field I'm pretty sure is 100% failchildren.
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The ones who aren't are smugly doing minor changes to a stock floorplan in exchange for 7-10% of the total home price.
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most of them do incredibly boring poo poo 60 hours a week. a friend of a friend just designs Longhorn Steak House restaurants.
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Empty Sandwich posted:most of them do incredibly boring poo poo 60 hours a week. a friend of a friend just designs Longhorn Steak House restaurants. Holy poo poo that sounds depressing.
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Chin Strap posted:Holy poo poo that sounds depressing. Yeah I hope that person has a super exciting and fulfilling hobby, because Jesus.
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Chin Strap posted:Holy poo poo that sounds depressing. Yeah, like...I thought the majority of chain restaurants have maybe 2-3 set floorplans depending on space/size/zoning requirements and would just use stock plans that were drawn 15 years ago. I imagine whatever changes get made are typically relatively minor? But hey, I'm sure there are architects out there that just want a standard "9-5" job, like data entry, that they can practically do on autopilot at this point and have no desire to be an I.M.Pei, Frank Gehry, or even Ted Mosby.
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The only good chain restaurant architect job to have is the Cheesecake Factory gig, because that dude is high as poo poo.
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Liquid Communism posted:The ones who aren't are smugly doing minor changes to a stock floorplan in exchange for 7-10% of the total home price. That would be a nice improvement. I mostly spend my time playing therapist between lovely owners and the lovely lowbidding GCs they hire even though I said it was a terrible idea and would cost more in the end (every drat time)
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Dec 14, 2022 21:30
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Sloppy posted:That would be a nice improvement. I mostly spend my time playing therapist between lovely owners and the lovely lowbidding GCs they hire even though I said it was a terrible idea and would cost more in the end (every drat time) Some really sage advice I heard at an owners conference was "Construction sucks, it's painful for everyone. When you pick a team to build it, select someone you like and can work with."
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Ghost Leviathan posted:That's just apparently standard for famous modern architects. Even the greats didn't always care about actual function. Frank Lloyd Wright's famous Fallingwater house is a beautiful art installation and also a mold hell
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No real architect ever wants to be built. What an insult to their vision, to consider it ever possible to realise.
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A guy that I used to work with said his dad is (or was, maybe he's retired now I dunno) an architect who made a shitload of money designing Home Hardware stores. Maybe Lonestar dude is clockin' that skrilla and doesn't really give a gently caress about how boring them bitches are.
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Empty Sandwich posted:most of them do incredibly boring poo poo 60 hours a week. a friend of a friend just designs Longhorn Steak House restaurants. My architecture friend works for one of the big international firms in London. Apparently he has been repeatedly designing staircases for some high rises over and over. He tells me that each time he gives them a new design it costs something like $20,000 after his hourly rate + the cost of the structural engineering firm to then go through the design of the stair case and cement floor/ceiling structure. I think he told me he had gone through at least 7 changes. Money isn't real if you're mega rich. Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:The only good chain restaurant architect job to have is the Cheesecake Factory gig, because that dude is high as poo poo. If you ever visit Austin, TX the guy who designs P. Terry's fast food restaurants has the best gig. https://hsuoffice.com/project/p-terrys/       
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MetaJew posted:If you ever visit Austin, TX the guy who designs P. Terry's fast food restaurants has the best gig. Used to live in Austin and love P.Terry's and am now jealous as hell that I never did anything meaningful with my life.
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That restaurant has a pompadour 
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I didnt know anyone was doing googie redux
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canyoneer posted:Even the greats didn't always care about actual function. Frank Lloyd Wright's famous Fallingwater house is a beautiful art installation and also a mold hell Beth Sholom (the party hat synagogue which happens to be somewhat close to me) is legendarily always filthy, always leaky, and monstrously expensive to maintain.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Ted Mosby. Why would I get a porn star to design my building?
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The Frank Lloyd Wright UU church in Oak Park is literally crumbling inside too fast for them to keep up with repairs and there's mildew everywhere in the classrooms that aren't included in the tour.
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https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_rmu0pxrCLP1wlks8j_720.mp4 From here [url]https://href.li/?https://www.tiktok.com/@swaincontracting/video/7159274023644581166[/url] Something seems funny about this. I'm not sure though. Maybe a nice shower in this house will help clear my head 
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Spicy water lines usually means an open neutral somewhere. that looks like a condo/apartment setup, so thats going to be a fun search.
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Sloppy posted:That would be a nice improvement. I mostly spend my time playing therapist between lovely owners and the lovely lowbidding GCs they hire even though I said it was a terrible idea and would cost more in the end (every drat time) How would you even go about finding an architect for a custom home nowadays that isn't a McMonstrosity or a slightly-modified version of one of the three floor plans allowed by the subdivision builders? Do you just hand them some inspiration pictures and ask "hey can you draw me some sketches of home designs in [insert style here] and we'll narrow it down from those options"? An even more fundamental question- are bespoke homes even in reach for anyone who doesn't have gently caress-off money? What's the minimum home price (market-dependent obv.) where it'd be feasible to work with an architect? Let's just assume something like a 3-bedroom, 2-bath home, but sufficiently different from the copy-paste houses in a suburban housing development that it would be a clean-sheet design.
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value-brand cereal posted:https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_rmu0pxrCLP1wlks8j_720.mp4 I don’t know how common it is for a spicy water line to kill you but it seems like the resident may have been lucky
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value-brand cereal posted:https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_rmu0pxrCLP1wlks8j_720.mp4 Another advantage of PEX water lines: non-conductive
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Luneshot posted:An even more fundamental question- are bespoke homes even in reach for anyone who doesn't have gently caress-off money? That depends on your definition of "gently caress-off money". I'd say the average person can't afford to do all of these at the same time: - Pay for where they live now during the following: - Buy or put a down payment/finance land, make the payments - Finance a build in its entity or qualify for a construction loan - Have enough cash to finance tranches of the build when the loan is being disbursed slowly - Make payments on the ever increasing construction loan or just accrue interest the whole time depending on what type you get - Pay for the inevitable overages, changes and other issues that weren't accounted for during the build - Move all of your poo poo, convert the mortgage/land loan to a home mortgage - Then finally sell you old house/get out of your lease E: minimum 6 months, most often a year or more from beginning to end Motronic fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Dec 15, 2022 |
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Luneshot posted:How would you even go about finding an architect for a custom home nowadays that isn't a McMonstrosity or a slightly-modified version of one of the three floor plans allowed by the subdivision builders? Do you just hand them some inspiration pictures and ask "hey can you draw me some sketches of home designs in [insert style here] and we'll narrow it down from those options"? Any mid-size town should have a few small shops. I'd just look for one that has a nice portfolio that matches the style you're interested in. Inspiration pictures are always helpful. We kick off a project with a design meeting with a site plan and some trace paper to work out what rooms/areas the owner wants, adjacencies, site specific orientations and points of interest, etc then work out a schematic plan, review, revise, etc as needed. We generally pitch our services as quality over quantity. If someone has the money for a new home they can either max out their square footage with a stock plan or we can design them something that suits their site, individual needs and tastes, and provides better livability and comfort in a smaller footprint. Stock plans often also have so much wasted space and people need less square footage to be comfortable than HGTV tells them they do. We'll often do napkin math for them like: 600k to build a house. Local rates are currently start around 300/sf which would give you a 2000sf house. Our typical fees for a new custom home with mid-shelf components and a moderate amount of detailing is around 6-8% cost of construction - let's say 40k. So now your construction budget is 560k = 1,866sf house. However the house is now totally custom to your tastes and layout and site and uses space much more efficiently. We really push for energy efficiency and comfort - we'll specify features like air sealing, continuous exterior insulation, etc. that let you do things like downsize your HVAC system, go barefoot inside in the winter, etc that you'll rarely get with a stock plan set. So maybe add on 50k for some amount of that and take off another 166sf. Now you're at 1700sf but everything is much higher quality and you won't even notice the lost 300sf because everything is right-sized. It's always a push-pull though. Having built projects that you can show clients is really helpful. We get 'wow, I never would have guessed this was so small, it feels so light and spacious' all the drat time.
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Motronic posted:That depends on your definition of "gently caress-off money". I'd say the average person can't afford to do all of these at the same time: completely fair point, but you could also argue that the average person can't afford to buy a house at all in many parts of the US Sloppy posted:Any mid-size town should have a few small shops. I'd just look for one that has a nice portfolio that matches the style you're interested in. Inspiration pictures are always helpful. We kick off a project with a design meeting with a site plan and some trace paper to work out what rooms/areas the owner wants, adjacencies, site specific orientations and points of interest, etc then work out a schematic plan, review, revise, etc as needed. Thank you for the information! I have always wondered how that process actually happens. I know very little about architecture, as my primary exposure to it has been a combination of "wow Frank Lloyd Wright built some cool-looking homes for some very rich people", scrolling through the Interior Design thread, and occasionally thinking "that house I'm driving past looks really neat, I wonder how much it cost to design it". I'm not going to be able to afford a new-build house anytime soon, but that's honestly a more accessible price than I had expected.
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Sloppy posted:Having built projects that you can show clients is really helpful. We get 'wow, I never would have guessed this was so small, it feels so light and spacious' all the drat time. We have a 60-year-old house that went through a similar process with the original owners and it's been great. Only 1290 sqft, but it feels a lot larger due to all the sight lines and windows and the thoughtful layout. Repair folk always comment on how it feels bigger. A friend called my kitchen "so cramped" when we first bought it and suggested that would be the first thing we'd just have to completely redo. After buying a new spacious house with a huge kitchen, she has admitted that my kitchen is better. It's hard to actually cook or bake in her kitchen because everything is so spread out. I do have a small kitchen, but it's laid out great for just one person to efficiently get work done. If you're not trying to have three different people cook in it all at once it's fine. We do need to make some renovations, but they're more along the lines of aging in place than actual functionality problems. That the house lasted so long without anyone knocking down walls is a good sign.
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Luneshot posted:completely fair point, but you could also argue that the average person can't afford to buy a house at all in many parts of the US I guess I didn't phrase it well, but that kinda is my point. It's already getting to the point that the "average" person can't really afford to buy something already existing. Building on your own is rarely ever cheaper than buying something that already exists unless you literally have the cash to just make it happen and also somehow know all the right contractors and GC on your own. And I guess don't have a job other than "be the GC for my house" for a year. Maybe there are places where this isn't the case but lol it's not anywhere near me and it's definitely not in any HCOL area.
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It's definitely possible and not more expensive than renting… if you live outside the US
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