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I just completed my read/watch of the devilman series.  What a loving masterpiece. I love this poo poo. I mean, it's not perfect, nothing is but this has some of the best panels I have ever seen in manga and it's just really bad rear end in general. I wanna be devilman, haha. He's so cool. The story is also, well, really insane. I feel like I am reading something a highschool student would have come up with but through the lens of more mature theming and philosophical inquiry. Though I do find the overall themes to be a bit of low hanging fruit compared to what is out today that basically overtly critiques the system of capitalism. But it's a drat fine series and I would high recommend it to anyone that hasn't read it yet. There's 3 OVA's to accompany it, but, the last one isn't cannon but still pretty cool. There's also a full series anime apparently but apparently it's really bad and not really cannon either. I have it I haven't watched that yet though I plan too.
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https://twitter.com/AnimeV_H_S/status/1589912681515188226?s=20&t=-7qG3t3j_26Mdmk-_mazyA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkKke9qtfuA Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Nov 10, 2022 |
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I recently got a raise at work so I decided to treat myself to an early christmas present. You might be asking why I didn't just wait for the upcoming Nozomi release; well...uh,      The Flash box is a bit  
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Very cool! Dirty Pair rules. I've got the ol' RightStuf and ADV DVDs of those. Flash for me was one of those middle of the road shows, still has charm, I fell asleep a few times watching. It's impossible to sleep during the original though, it's too magnificent! It'd be like sleeping during The Godfather or Dr. Strangelove. I've still gotta watch the OVAs. Love the movie. I hear a new City Hunter movie is in the works too, always nice to see. That's another one I bought all the DVDs of and still have a lot to go. Plus there's the manga too, fan translated at least. Cat's Eye too.
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Heavy Metal posted:Very cool! Dirty Pair rules. I've got the ol' RightStuf and ADV DVDs of those. Flash for me was one of those middle of the road shows, still has charm, I fell asleep a few times watching. I was actually watching all of Flash a couple of days ago while I was ripping the other discs, and I thought they were alright for most part. I didn't much care for how overly mean they made Kei and Yuri in Flash 1, but they were doing the whole 'odd couple learning to be a team' sorta deal so I get it. The airport scene in VOL 5 was amazing though. Flash 2 was the best of the three; Flash 3 was okay except for VOL 3 (the volleyball training episode) and 4 (weird kid with a Yuri real doll episode) those were the worst. Combat Lobster fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Dec 8, 2022 |
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Since I can't find a proper Ghost in the Shell thread and I'm pretty sure a show that came out 20 years ago is retro I figured I'd ask here rather than turn the general chat thread into my personal recap space. I discovered today that there's a compilation film for Stand Alone Complex just titled "The Laughing Man." and another one for 2nd GIG titled "Individual Eleven." I also found out that they've had their dubs done by the Ocean Group. Is it any good as a compilation film or worth the curiosity of hearing David "Megatron" Kaye voicing Batou? Moreover, why would Ocean Group even get the rights to the compilation films if Animaze had already done the TV shows?
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My gut take would be that's not a show where compilation movies would be so hot. But I heartily recommend season 1 of Stand Alone Complex, the ol' laughing man etc, it's good times. Season 2 is ok.
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Heavy Metal posted:My gut take would be that's not a show where compilation movies would be so hot. But I heartily recommend season 1 of Stand Alone Complex, the ol' laughing man etc, it's good times. Season 2 is ok. Yeah I just blitzed the ending of my Season 1 rewatch the other day. Quite enjoyable, last episode of the season being a frustrating exposition dump in lieu of actual drama notwithstanding. I might check out the compilations at some point to listen to the Ocean dub, I had absolutely no idea they'd done anything GITS related and it could be a neat comparison.
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Arc Hammer posted:Since I can't find a proper Ghost in the Shell thread and I'm pretty sure a show that came out 20 years ago is retro I figured I'd ask here rather than turn the general chat thread into my personal recap space. Starz/IDT probably didn’t care to license/dub the compilations so Bandai took sole interest of the license for the series and the movies. Since Bandai does a lot of work with Ocean (see also: why Dub Amuro has a canadian accent), they went with them to dub the movie. Manga/Bandai hired Animaze for The Solid State Society movie which was released in late 2006, after the release of The Laughing Man and Individualist Eleven OVAs, which were just Bandai, who used Ocean. seems like Bandai preferred Ocean but Manga went with Animaze for the joint releases also, Animaze was on its way to going defunct around 2006. They did GITS:SAC, then Wolf’s Rain, then basically stopped being a going concern after Code Geass in 2008. to answer your other question, GITS:SAC s1 and s2 are so loving good that you should just watch the original series to maximize the time you get to spend with your friends at Public Security Section 9. lastly, subs not dubs.
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On the other hand, Richard Epcar as Batou. Guy just lives and breathes the character. I miss Animaze dubs. They're not always the best but when they hit they hit perfectly and they had an absolute powerhouse lineup of voice talent. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Jan 5, 2023 |
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Animaze did a great job most of the time and they pretty much cemented their legacy by going all-out with their Bebop dub, which is spectacular even now imo. You've also got Big O, Akira's redub, and definitely GITS They do have a few low points though. I found the dub for Gundam 0080 was decent but 0083 man, yikes, aside from a few voices there is a lot of bad acting in that. Guys like Burning and such have good casting but the dude playing Kou is loving awful. 8th Ms Team had a solid dub too imo Edit: also Epcar as Batou is so good. I was thinking again the other day how the GITS live action movie messed up a lot, but one small thing that stood out was the casting for Batou. I don't know why they casted Pilou Asbæk when you have Holt McCallany, a guy that not only looks like a perfect Batou but also sounds quite similar to Epcar, right fuckin there Good soup! fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Jan 5, 2023 |
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Arc Hammer posted:On the other hand, Richard Epcar as Batou. Guy just lives and breathes the character. It's also hard for me to think of anyone else but Mary Elizabeth McGlynn as the Major
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TenementFunster posted:subs not dubs tho wish you'd unsub from these forums
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Decided to keep watching into 2nd Gig rather than take a break because I'm not really in the mood to watch anything else. I'm six episodes in and I barely remember anything from this season so it's basically a blind watch. So far I haven't been to keen on the standalone (dividual) episodes this season. You had a "what if Taxi Driver but DeNiro was a robot man" and "Major goes cosplaying as the girls from Cat's Eye to pull off a heist during a sex party" and it just feels like they're leaning more heavily on references to other media or to older GITS media than they are using those references to examine how the GITS world is different from ours. It's basically law that the Major has to jump off a building at some point while going invisible. One of my big problems with the first season is when it used fakeouts to pull up shock drama before immediately deflating it with unsatisfactory exposition after the fact. Well here in season 2 it's a different problem, where the drama isn't coming from fakeouts as much as it's coming from times where characters are acting stupid in order to set up a big surprise reveal. So far Togusa has held the idiot stick the most such as how he and Ishikawa checked out the apartment during the helicopter crisis and completely missed the two men in black leaving the area after planting evidence. Then only after listening to a long exposition dump does Togusa suddenly draw a connection to the Individual Eleven during the assassination attempt on the PM, suddenly remembering "oh yeah, those terrorists from episode 1 and also that note we found when we searched the apartment maybe they're connected!" He was even dumber during the last one I watched where he goes to Tokyo, completely forgets he had a Tachikoma with him and willingly walks into a contaminated building with his dosimeter going haywire after hearing firsthand accounts from a former cleanup worker about how radioactive the area is. For a guy who was paranoid about residual radiation he sure as hell didn't do much to protect himself. And maybe this isn't the show's fault given the time in which it released but I'm kinda leery on where it's going with the discussion of refugee policy. It could very easily go into a rather nasty xenophobia bent. That being said there's still some pretty excellent action sequences so far, I'm still a sucker for the Tachikoma antics, and the 2nd OP and ED are good even if they're not as good as the first season's. Also the Major is somewhat more playful and open this time around. Maybe the Tachikomas rubbed off on her a bit. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Jan 6, 2023 |
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kirbysuperstar posted:wish you'd unsub from these forums anyway, the voice acting performances themselves in Cowboy Bebop and GITS:SAC are about as not awful as you’re gonna get in a dub, but oh man the lip flap sync still makes the transitions sound so unnatural. the weird thing is a lot of the dialogue in GITS is communicated ‘telepathically’ via Cyberbrain Discord. the translation is still clunky, though. i was gonna say they should just use the sub transcript for those parts, but, uh, famously:  Timed By Killshok
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What was the consensus on the tachikomas back in 2000s discourse? I only really started watching anime around 2011 (as on seeking out shows rather than dismissing everything as porn or pokemon/digimon/Yu-Gi-Oh/ and being too co for it) so I only watched SAC for the first time about a decade ago when the series was aired on official YouTube channels. I didn't like the tachikomas back then as a teenager for much the same reasons I didn't like Ed in Bebop. What's this cutesy poo poo doing in my cool hard-core adult shows? Nowadays i am a lot more lenient on this kind of stuff when it is used well and I really enjoy the counterpoint test characters like Ed or the Tachikomas provide to otherwise grim procedurals. What was the general take on the think tanks back in the day? Was it a similar case of a lot of dumb teens and their opinions changed over time?
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I believe they were fairly beloved, or at least respected. Speaking of think tanks, we're a think tank on here. Anime think tank .gov That would also make a good ad for one of those 3DO tank games. "Think tank" Speaking of old school, I'm back on my Slam Dunk watching kick, man that show rules. I also have vol 21-31 of the manga on my shelf, ready to go when I finish it. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Jan 7, 2023 |
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Tachikomas we're good and added some fun into the series and also got good characterization when for example one sacrificed itself. I think maybe the cel shading was the only negative, aside from the cutesy voices?
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TenementFunster posted:the GITS:SAC and Cowboy Bebop are some of the least terrible dubs out there They don't even approach terrible, op Both the tachikomas and Ed could be super annoying and off-putting at times, but Mushroom Samba was entertaining and the way they handled Ed in her final appearance was great
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Arc Hammer posted:What was the consensus on the tachikomas back in 2000s discourse? I only really started watching anime around 2011 (as on seeking out shows rather than dismissing everything as porn or pokemon/digimon/Yu-Gi-Oh/ and being too co for it) so I only watched SAC for the first time about a decade ago when the series was aired on official YouTube channels. I didn't like the tachikomas back then as a teenager for much the same reasons I didn't like Ed in Bebop. What's this cutesy poo poo doing in my cool hard-core adult shows? Nowadays i am a lot more lenient on this kind of stuff when it is used well and I really enjoy the counterpoint test characters like Ed or the Tachikomas provide to otherwise grim procedurals. Speaking as someone who was around while SAC was getting fansubbed, I definitely remember that plenty of folks loved 'em.
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I'm surprised people are put off by the cell shading. There's plenty of janky cgi in SAC but I don't count the think-tanks among that crowd. I actually think they look pretty great even today. As for cuteness, I'm not against it as much as I used to be. I don't really see the think tanks as being kid-friendly mascots to sell a violent show to ten year olds, more that they're hyper-intelligent constructs with the emotional experience of children. They don't get a pass when they screw up because they sound like kids, they get chewed out like anyone else on the team and characters respond to the dichotomy between their philosophical insights and childlike behaviour with an appropriate level of concern rather than a typical "oh you rascals" comment. It helps that they're actually funny a lot of the time which emphasizes their role within the story beyond being the cute spider tanks.
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Arc Hammer posted:What was the general take on the think tanks back in the day? e: wait do they call them think tanks in the dub? i saw probably 500 episodes of SAC on adult swim and always remember them called tachikomas in that, too FilthyImp posted:Tachikomas we're good and added some fun into the series and also got good characterization when for example one sacrificed itself. i recall ADTRW generally liking the cutesy voices. the heavily-armed AI spider tank having a genki affect was a big part of the incongruous charm. it’s a Boston Dynamics Killbot with Baby Voice. Great bit. TenementFunster fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Jan 7, 2023 |
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Good soup! posted:Mushroom Samba was entertaining and the way they handled Ed in her final appearance was great better subbed, tho. “Bye Bye” 
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Couple more episodes down of 2nd GIG. I'm not sure trying to tie in all the standalone episodes to the greater plot was the best idea. One of your prime suspects gets murdered and instead of following it up it's a nearly completely unrelated Pazu episode? It was a good episode but it felt like convenience to have a top suspect dovetail into something unrelated. Or the episode where the Major discovers her past. Her cyber bits get hacked until she goes to the memory house and then they never follow up on it. I also felt that having her past narrated to her in an exposition dump was kind of a waste. You've already set things up with her software hack that she's seeing things that aren't there, why not just have the hack show her memories of her childhood? It's not like it's a mystery when the girl's 10 year old shell is a red eyed purple haired Major copy. I don't know. There's still a lot of good stuff this season but individual episodes aren't holding up as well. But the music is loving phenomenal and the show at least looks a bit better than the first season. Major is still off model every episode but I really like the green glow aesthetic of the season, real Matrix vibes. Edit: Holy poo poo in the Saito sniper episode they finally gave the British characters accents! Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Jan 8, 2023 |
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No Major, do not humour the preteen boy asking you about sex after you crawled into bed with him topless. What the gently caress.
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And with that I've finished 2nd GIG. A much more mixed bag than the first season and I think a big part of that comes from difficulties writing for the narrative structure of the season. Section 9 is on the back foot almost the entire season and the show makes a point to emphasize how the team being forced into a reactive rather than proactive role cripples their ability to prevent incidents from happening. That's a good hook, but unfortunately a lot of times it comes at the expense of making Section 9's characters into idiots who just forget important information or make stupid decisions. I'm thinking Togusa only putting together the Individual Eleven incidents after an exposition dump, or Batou letting a (fake) plutonium handoff get away because he wants to fight Kuze. Other times a lot of stuff that could have been explained through an overall episode plot are relegated to big exposition dumps where we're told what happens rather than experiencing it alongside the characters. Even the standalone episodes suffered this season. There was a conscious effort to tie the standalones into the overall plot, which is fine in some cases, but in others it ended up causing some really contrived moments, like Pazu's episode with the doppelganger or the Tachikomas discovering their creator thanks to a completely unrelated explosion nearby, with the only connective tissue to the main storyline being the thematic element of a creator wanting to leave his mark and be remembered. You can draw the parallels between Asuda wanting to leave a memory of himself to the Tachikomas and Gouda wanting to leave a calling card that he'd engineered the entire refugee crisis. That's not to say that all of the standalones were bad. I really liked the one in Berlin where Batou and the Major are tracking a bomber. It had a good excuse for happening (Gouda wanting top S9 operatives out of the country while he ran his scheme) and was a pretty fun mystery with a sad ending. The Saito episode had the dumbest setup ever with his storytelling over poker but the actual meat of the episode with the sniper battle was great and it was cool seeing more of the outside world than just the sphere Section 9 usually works in. For villains, we had our antihero Kuze and Gouda. I like the idea behind Kuze more than I do the actual execution. It's very, very hard to write a character meant to be very charismatic without it coming off a bit forced, and unfortunately GITS as a franchise often has the subtlety of a sledgehammer when it comes to discussing philosophical themes. So Kuze unfortunately comes off less as a heroic leader breaking free of his programming and more like a walking loudspeaker. He's the equivalent of those delusional "and then everyone clapped" stories you read online, which is kind of a shame because this season already took the piss out of those kinds of stories with the Taxi Driver/Helicopter Pilot episode. Being voiced by Kirk Thornton probably didn't help him in the dub. I like Kirk a lot but the guy gets typecast all the time as the "noble warrior poet" who more often comes off as pretentious than profound. His connection to the Major was telegraphed very early on, so I appreciated that they didn't need to outright say that he was the other plane crash survivor. A rare moment in a talky show where not talking conveyed more information. Gouda on the other hand was a fantastic villain. Just the perfect mix of a slimeball and a ruthless operator with a massive ego. It was so satisfying to see him get his face blown off in the end. I enjoyed every time he appeared onscreen, just completely stole the show away and was by far the best antagonist. Both seasons had the evil cabinet secretaries being the ones pulling strings, but they're more of an interchangeable, banal evil, so having a bastard like Gouda to focus that into a compelling and efficient enemy for Section 9 was a good choice. As for the overall conspiracy of the season, I'm of two minds. On the one hand I could not help but draw comparisons to Oshii's arguments from Patlabor 2 about Japan's hypocrisy over militarism and the comfortable lie the country accepts. I can see elements of Patlabor 2's Tsuge in GITS's Kuze, and the show did a good job of showing the powder keg that existed with Japan having so many armed forces branches just itching for the chance to shoot someone. You've got Article 9 references everywhere and exposition dumps about how Japan managed to avoid committing the armed forces to WW3 and WW4, only to then completely undermine that supposed noble act of neutrality by showing how black ops teams, UN taskforces and post WW4 conflicts have the JSDF actively involved. But I think the politics of GITS are notably difference from Patlabor beyond those comparisons, especially regarding foreign policy. Oshii directly points to Japan's hypocrisy and argues that even if the result is removing the comfortable lie to face harsh reality, that reality is something Japan as a nation needs to accept if they're to survive. GITS on the other hand, ESPECIALLY 2nd GIG, really wants to push for Japanese independence and autonomy from the rest of the world. Prime Minister Kayabuki settles on keeping the rest of the world at arms length, which is understandable on the level given how the American Empire, China and other powers have their own self interests for exploiting Japan. But her cabinet is also a bunch of hawkish conservatives who almost universally despise the refugee issue and actively undermined humanitarian aid for decades to the point where a bastard like Gouda could manipulate information to commit mass murder. But that's fine because the refugees have guns and terrorists and suicide bombers so maybe both sides are bad! It's a very 2000s view of refugees that doesn't sit well with me now after the last decade of anti refugee sentiment. There's very little distinction in 2nd GIG between an armed revolutionary and someone stuck in the refugee slums. So it gets pretty ugly. Overall I enjoyed the season but I felt it was a step down from SAC. SAC has a better finale, last episode notwithstanding, and more of the standalone episodes that I enjoyed. 2nd GIG makes better use of the entirety of Section 9 while SAC felt like it was a Major/Batou/Togusa joint first and foremost. It was nice seeing Boma, Ishikawa and Saito get more stuff to do. They whiffed it with Pazu's episode and what was even the point of Proto. Guy just shows up one episode, and then the next time we see him he's suddenly a Bioroid. I felt like I missed a trick. Anyhow, that's two seasons down. Onto Solid State Society to round this out. Then I might try the CGI shows, if I can stomach them.
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Watched Ghost in the Shell: Solid State Society tonight. What a frustratingly "mid" film. This definitely felt like it should have been a third season rather than a film. A lot of stuff that felt like it should be more important is brushed over. It definitely has its moments, and it's easily the best that the SAC art style ever looked, but there's so much stuff holding it back from being truly excellent. There's pretty much zero tension around the fates of any of the characters. Once the Major is able to stop a point blank headshot from killing Togusa you pretty much throw mortality out the window. The Tachikomas being resurrected immediately afterwards is met with "sure, whatever" as a result. The Major is an rear end in a top hat in this movie, too. She often straddles the line between likeable and aloof but in this one she's just a massive prick to everybody. She uses Togusa as bait and she completely disregards Batou's concerns for her when he has always been in her corner even when it wasn't in his best interest. She's got a bad case of main character syndrome going on and the ensemble that makes the show so strong suffers as a result. As for the ending, it's a bit confusing but is this correct? The Major is shown operating multiple shells at once, and the "Puppeteer" that blows his brains out at the brainwashing facility was one of the shells that she was operating to get on the inside of Mune's scheme. Did she let that shell get hacked specifically so she could dive into it with her main body and confront the Puppeteer or had the puppeteer already stolen the body from her safehouse (also she can somehow get Section 6 to give her infinite money for a massive freelance cyber crime investigation operation???). If its the latter shouldn't she be concerned that one of her shells is just walking away without her knowledge? So that brings me to the end of the original SAC show stuff. Overall it feels like a series with untapped potential that unfortunately has diminishing returns with every instalment. The standalone episodes aren't always the best but I think they're desperately needed to help flesh out this version of Ghost in the Shell and let the main plots breathe a little. There is some absolutely fantastic stuff in the SAC timeline but it's often weighed down by poor conclusions that rely way too much on after-the-fact exposition dumps and a shrug. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Jan 23, 2023 |
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So, to give an example of how my brain works, reading about Tiffany Grant in the NGE thread made me think "Tiffany Grant...she wasn't Bulma in DB, was she?"The answer is no, that was a different Tiffany, but now I want to re-watch classic DB for the first time in over a decade. I grew up with DBZ but I have nothing but nostalgia that keeps me remembering it fondly. Dragon Ball, however, is something I watched as a young adult and it's so incredibly good. It's a great, basic story with awesome music and the dub by Funimation was a massive, massive improvement over Z's. I really cannot stand the "Idiot Hero" type for most shounen protagonists but Kid Goku works because ht's genuinely charming and charismatic. That's always the idea - Naruto and Luffy are dumb but they'er so sweet and innocent that you don't care. Well, I do care, because they don't charm me. But Kid Goku does charm me. I wish he never grew up. King Piccolo was the best arc in all of Dragon Ball/Z/GT/Super/whatever. Best Villain in al of Dragon Ball/etc.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtWRnI_fhuM Also I looked and we still have no bluray release for DB. Fine, whatever, saves me money.
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Did Ocean/Westwood even dub Dragon Ball? I thought they just did Z, some of the movies and GT. Individual voices aside the Funi voice cast is overall better but I prefer Scott McNeil's Buu and Jeice any day of the week.
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Arc Hammer posted:Did Ocean/Westwood even dub Dragon Ball? I thought they just did Z, some of the movies and GT. Individual voices aside the Funi voice cast is overall better but I prefer Scott McNeil's Buu and Jeice any day of the week. https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Blue_Water_dub quote:With the success of the Blue Water dub of Dragon Ball GT, Westwood contacted them again to create a dub of the original Dragon Ball series despite the fact that the first 13 episodes had already been dubbed in Vancouver in 1994. The Blue Water dub also uses the French dub as the source material, therefore also containing content edits as well as using AB Groupe's opening title sequence for said dub, along with an English singer and a translation of the lyrics (though the UK broadcast usually featured a completely different opening). However, at least with the first several episodes, the script for Funimation's dub of the series was re-used, albeit heavily re-worked. While this dub uses the terminology from Funimation's dub, there were some exceptions such as the Power Pole being called "Nyoi-Bo". This dub was aired in Canada concurrently with Dragon Ball GT, and in the UK after the Blue Water dub of Dragon Ball GT completed its run. I don't think I've ever heard any of this. I used to post on this Dragonball forum which always had big topics on "Who is the best voice of Kid Goku?" and somebody would come out with obscure choices from BW or I think Harmony Gold did a handful of episodes forever ago ad THAT is clearly the best voice for him. And hey, I'm all for Brian Drummond as Saiyan Saga or even Namek Vegeta. Nobody an play Vegeta losing his mind like him. I've never watched the Ocean stuff beyond that, though. Maybe he's a good antihero Vegeta, too.
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NikkolasKing posted:And hey, I'm all for Brian Drummond as Saiyan Saga or even Namek Vegeta. Nobody an play Vegeta losing his mind like him. I've never watched the Ocean stuff beyond that, though. Maybe he's a good antihero Vegeta, too. The trouble here is that there's a rather large gap between when Ocean stopped dubbing DBZ and when they picked it up again. The last episode they did on Namek was the opening of the Recoome fight, and after that it went over to the Funimation dub until Canadian Content regulations and a whole confusing mess of dubbing rights got Ocean back to dub it during the Dr. Gero episodes of the Android Saga. The entirety of the Frieza fight never got a Canadian voiceover and only a handful of the original Ocean dub wasn't recast when it came back.
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NikkolasKing posted:I don't think I've ever heard any of this. I used to post on this Dragonball forum which always had big topics on "Who is the best voice of Kid Goku?" and somebody would come out with obscure choices from BW or I think Harmony Gold did a handful of episodes forever ago ad THAT is clearly the best voice for him. Yeah HG did a "test dub" of the first arc, and aired it on some local station. If you've seen that reanimated project on youtube, most of the audio taken from that dub. Harmony Gold also did dubs for the Dragonball movies except 'Curse of the Blood Rubies,' I think. It featured almost everyone from the Funi dub except Goku who was voiced by someone else. Combat Lobster fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Mar 7, 2023 |
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Mar 6, 2023 23:58
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I remember way way back (maybe before dbz was on TV here?) having one or two VHS tapes for dB. I remember it ending right after pilafs castle.
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Mar 7, 2023 00:33
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So Internet Archive has some anime things that are very hard to come by,. like he Evangelion Platinum DVDs and all their content. They also now have the OG Gundam SEED English dub since it was replaced. I had the thought "maybe they have Blue Water Dragon Ball." It's...not very good. I had a talk with someone just now about if it's okay to post this and it seems so. https://archive.org/details/bluewaterdubdb/133+-+Reunion+Before+A+Storm.mpg NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Mar 19, 2023 |
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Mar 19, 2023 22:43
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Can't remember was that the version with the English intro with the super cheesy lyrics "dragon baaaaaall the ultimate battle the ultimate fight between evil and good" I will defend the Ocean Dub as having some really quality leading voices and I'll even stan for Blue Water on occasion but they're the budget studio for a reason.
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