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padijun
Feb 5, 2004

murderbears forever

Eimi posted:

I'm waiting to see if they actually kill off any gacha characters.

Yeah I’m sure they really want their headquarters mail bombed by deranged fans

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The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

So I got Albert Haitham while trying to roll on Yaoyao (I know I should have waited for the Lantern Event, but she's adorable, gently caress you.) He seems to be dendro non-waifu Keqing, which is ok, since I don't have Keqing (somehow the game has seen fit to give me 4 Qiqis for some reason, but I digress.)

What 4-star sword does Albert want? Sapwood blade looks good, so does Lion's roar, since hyperbloom is so good. But also the sacrificial blade looks pretty MVP for him, since his elemental skill has a hefty 16 sec cooldown, and Albert doesn't want to be caught lackin' (mirrors).

E: Iron sting looks good too

The Atomic Man-Boy fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Jan 19, 2023

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


padijun posted:

Yeah I’m sure they really want their headquarters mail bombed by deranged fans

On the one hand they killed Signora depriving themselves of gods know how much money they'd have made off their banner, and on the other, I'm shocked that didn't happenw hen they did it.


The Atomic Man-Boy posted:

So I got Albert Haitham while trying to roll on Yaoyao (I know I should have waited for the Lantern Event, but she's adorable, gently caress you.) He seems to be dendro non-waifu Keqing, which is ok, since I don't have Keqing (somehow the game has seen fit to give me 4 Qiqis for some reason, but I digress.)

What 4-star sword does Albert want? Sapwood blade looks good, so does Lion's roar, since hyperbloom is so good. But also the sacrificial blade looks pretty MVP for him, since his elemental skill has a hefty 16 sec cooldown, and Albert doesn't want to be caught lackin' (mirrors)

If you have the Umbrella, use that. Otherwise use Iron Sting. Black Sword is another decent option if you need crit to balance his ratios. Sac is a big damage loss, he doesn't need that much ER if you give him a battery and the way his kit works you don't need it for long field time. Basically you want to start with his burst, get three mirrors, attack, 4s later charged attack, 4s after that skill, attack out and your burst should be back up again.

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

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if you played the latest event, the free event umbrella weapon is probably his best in slot. iron sting should be fine too
lion's roar is only good for a quicken team, you wouldn't use it in hyperbloom since the enemy won't have electro on them enough. they'll be dendro or hydro 90% of the time

padijun posted:

Yeah I’m sure they really want their headquarters mail bombed by deranged fans

they've killed off gacha characters in honkai before

spoilers for story events from 4 years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dmvNGxYPCU

RPATDO_LAMD fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Jan 19, 2023

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Eimi posted:

On the one hand they killed Signora depriving themselves of gods know how much money they'd have made off their banner, and on the other, I'm shocked that didn't happenw hen they did it.

I'm still sad about this.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


RPATDO_LAMD posted:

if you played the latest event, the free event umbrella weapon is probably his best in slot. iron sting should be fine too
lion's roar is only good for a quicken team, you wouldn't use it in hyperbloom since the enemy won't have electro on them enough. they'll be dendro or hydro 90% of the time

Even in Quicken, his dendro app is so strong that the electro aura doesn't exist. Same problem as Nahida where it's just all dendro all the time.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
I finally had luck shine upon me.

I figured I'd throw a few wishes at the Xiao banner to see if I could pull a Yaoyao. I guess I had forgotten I was already 70 wishes deep from 6+ months ago. 6 wishes in, I got Xiao.

So I threw another 30 wishes at it. And... got another Xiao.

That's my first 5* I ever got at sub-70 wishes.

Is... Xiao good? Is C1 Xiao good?

What's a good Xiao team?

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

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none of xiao's constellations do anything, besides c6
xiao is cool, not the top of the meta but strong enough to hold his own plus pogo stick boy is a neat playstyle

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Xiao team pre Faruzan is Xiao, Bennett, Jean, Zhongli. Jean can be any anemo unit though, he just mainly needs a battery. His c1 at least gives you another use of his skills so unlike c2-c5 it does something. Otherwise, sacrifice a goat for c6 Faruzan next time she's around to make Xiao super tall.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Tallest Xiao main explains Xiao for 40 mins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWxX_vr5Ftc

https://twitter.com/zajef77/status/1466273105425350656

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

xiao is decent damage for extremely low investment

since he doesnt really depend on reactions he isnt super team dependant, just find buffers for him mostly. benny, yunjin (she doesnt buff plunging but you can do N1->Plunge as a combo for okay damage), faruzan, zhongli, etc.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
Would C1 Jean be a good fit?



I don't think much has changed since this. A few people went up a single con level, I think.

Tree Reformat
Apr 2, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
Alhaitham Story Spoilers: why are there so many assholes at the fantasy university trying to borg the sumeran populace. maybe put some psyche checks in for "likelihood to become a egomaniacal brain lord if given enough resources" when admitting new researchers, i dunno.

also, why did paimon get so aggro at the dude for lying literally moments after seeing how much he got poo poo on for making the barest stand against the akademiya's hosed up exploitative culture. first time i was completely opposite reaction from her about the story.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Mordiceius posted:

Would C1 Jean be a good fit?



I don't think much has changed since this. A few people went up a single con level, I think.

jean's okay with him, she can feed him energy and be a team healer, and group enemies together. xiao/benny/jean/zhongli would be good, even if a bit overkill on the survivability.

MoonCrab
Nov 19, 2014

A mildly pertubed emoji face
I am no longer asking, let me play as a summoner eremite :argh:

They've got NA strings with full infusion uptime, they've got elemental skills and bursts, and a fun pet that walks around and attacks alongside you. I hoped till the last moment that Dehya could summon a lion or something :sigh:

ninjoatse.cx posted:

Let's not mistake his one niche roll as burgeoning support as being "good". His kit still has massive holes in it and layla wipes the floor with him as a defensive assist.

He's not a "burgeon support," he's an off-field dps specializing in AoE damage (using burgeon, yes). He's got energy problems and AoE content usually isn't highly emphasized, but the damage is there and he provides decent utility via damage mitigation+stagger resistance. 7/10, dendro Beidou.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
This new boss loving sucks. Guess they cant all be dendro chickens.

Captain France
Aug 3, 2013

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

if you played the latest event, the free event umbrella weapon is probably his best in slot. iron sting should be fine too
lion's roar is only good for a quicken team, you wouldn't use it in hyperbloom since the enemy won't have electro on them enough. they'll be dendro or hydro 90% of the time

they've killed off gacha characters in honkai before

spoilers for story events from 4 years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dmvNGxYPCU

Not to mention the two characters who were dead before the game started, then the four more who were technically dead and then became double dead.

Actually, killing off the entire Elysian Realm is probably a better indicator than Himeko, since it's so much more recent.

padijun
Feb 5, 2004

murderbears forever

No Wave posted:

This new boss loving sucks. Guess they cant all be dendro chickens.


oh hey, a dune reference achievement. you can't break the "don't remind the audience of better movies" rule with a boss this bad

Captain France
Aug 3, 2013
Also I'm playing through the big questline for the update, and it really made me smile when (very minor spoiler but it was a nice moment) they asked to play cards during the quest downtime.

They should do that more.

Real Cool Catfish
Jun 6, 2011

Coolness Averted posted:

It's good and cool of a game to make you feel like a monster in the first 20 minutes of play

You mean you don’t make a habit of killing those pigeons every time you cross the bridge??

MNSNTZR
Oct 13, 2012

MoonCrab posted:

I am no longer asking, let me play as a summoner eremite :argh:

They've got NA strings with full infusion uptime, they've got elemental skills and bursts, and a fun pet that walks around and attacks alongside you. I hoped till the last moment that Dehya could summon a lion or something :sigh:

i’m speaking into existence that the summoner eremites are tests for baizhu’s kit

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

MNSNTZR posted:

i’m speaking into existence that the summoner eremites are tests for baizhu’s kit
I predict this is true, but his gimmick will be that he takes the Hippocratic Oath very seriously and neither he nor Changsheng has any way of dealing damage at all. Another finger on the monkey's paw curls shut.

MNSNTZR
Oct 13, 2012

FractalSandwich posted:

I predict this is true, but his gimmick will be that he takes the Hippocratic Oath very seriously and neither he nor Changsheng has any way of dealing damage at all. Another finger on the monkey's paw curls shut.

given hoyo’s track record for male characters…

really though, as much as folks joke about “pulling for x even if they heal the enemy”, i honestly wouldn’t mind a super gimmicky 4* that does that. it’d be awesome to test out team comps whenever you want without melting enemy hp too quickly (cyno….)

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

Eimi posted:

On the one hand they killed Signora depriving themselves of gods know how much money they'd have made off their banner, and on the other, I'm shocked that didn't happenw hen they did it.


The Natlan archon quest is called "Incandescent Ode of Resurrection"

:thunk:

Chernobyl Peace Prize
May 7, 2007

Or later, later's fine.
But now would be good.

Excelzior posted:

The Natlan archon quest is called "Incandescent Ode of Resurrection"

:thunk:

Ten billion dead pigeons come in for a huuuuuge party (attack)

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

oh great random corrupted file error this morning :argh:

e: fixed now. Don't forget the log-in events have started so claim your wishes

Excelzior fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jan 19, 2023

Sexual Aluminum
Jun 21, 2003

is made of candy
Soiled Meat
It's really interesting seeing people review Dehya's kit in the leaks. Some folks are on suicide watch, some are actually really irate at Hoyo about gating so much behind C1.

I wonder what will happen if they don't streamline things? (they most likely will, its early)

Valdent
Mar 16, 2016
Deyha currently has a very confused kit but her animations are great. So it's not entirely bad. Plus I'm sure even if she releases in a state that causes most people to consider her terrible there will still be use cases coming up as more artifact sets and characters release that she better meshes with

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


I just want her to be on-field...especially with those normal attack animations. How can you make that and then make her a character you'd never normal attack on?!

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
Her burst seems to do actual damage, I didnt understand it at all until I saw a video. I'm still not fully understanding the mechanics of it but it looks like it does somewhere around 3000%. So layering Ayaka and Dehya's bursts will at least be cute. I'd be interested in Ayaka/Xingqiu/Dehya/Bennett it should blow up the geo frog pretty fast. There's a lot unfavorable about her kit and it's impossible for her to actually be better than Xiangling outside of the tanking passives but her burst isnt wildly undertuned like her E is.

Radical
Apr 6, 2011

Eimi posted:

I just want her to be on-field...especially with those normal attack animations. How can you make that and then make her a character you'd never normal attack on?!

Boy if I had a dollar for every time I've seen this exact post about Genshin!

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world


Sexual Aluminum posted:

It's really interesting seeing people review Dehya's kit in the leaks. Some folks are on suicide watch, some are actually really irate at Hoyo about gating so much behind C1.

I wonder what will happen if they don't streamline things? (they most likely will, its early)

Please tell me they're not literally on suicide watch because that really could be the truth from my experiences with gacha

Maxwell Adams
Oct 21, 2000

T E E F S
Dehya definitely has a signature artifact set that hasn't been leaked yet. It probably reads something like this:

2-piece: +18% ATK
4-piece: Every time Dehya causes a pyro reaction, gain one stack of Puissant Belligerence. These stacks last for 10 seconds. Upon gaining 5 stacks of Puissant Beligerence, Dehya will dropkick the sun out of the sky, dealing AOE pyro damage over a set interval.

MNSNTZR
Oct 13, 2012

Maxwell Adams posted:

Dehya definitely has a signature artifact set that hasn't been leaked yet. It probably reads something like this:

2-piece: +18% ATK
4-piece: Every time Dehya causes a pyro reaction, gain one stack of Puissant Belligerence. These stacks last for 10 seconds. Upon gaining 5 stacks of Puissant Beligerence, Dehya will dropkick the sun out of the sky, dealing AOE pyro damage over a set interval.

you’re missing about an extra 200 words for the 4 piece description

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

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China Mieville reader spotted

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

She looks like a support, as she absorbs damage from the on-field, but also has a long burst, so a bit confusing.

Maxwell Adams
Oct 21, 2000

T E E F S

DeadFatDuckFat posted:

China Mieville reader spotted

Is that where I learned that word? Perdido Street Station is such a cool book.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Cat-shaped Witch posted:

Please tell me they're not literally on suicide watch because that really could be the truth from my experiences with gacha

Imagining someone who preemptively took out a bunch of payday loans in order to have as much money as possible to spend on the upcoming Dehya gacha.

edit: or invested in Dehya NFTs

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

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teenage kids cant get payday loans

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Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:

teenage kids cant get payday loans

not in bidens america ::911:

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