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The best thing JBL did was wear the towel around his neck, under his jacket when he would come down to the ring. He saw some guy do it in the gym he was at one day and it pissed him off so much that he started doing it for more heat. I appreciate that to be honest
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The Second Gear Crew huckin' chairs at people and just smashing em over and over with chunks of debris sometimes reminds me of the APA.
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JBL at his best wished he was a Wish.com Stan Hansen instead of being a dollar store bootleg Stan Hansen
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APA Bradshaw was great and I liked seeing him on tv when I was younger. JBL sucked because who the gently caress wants to see the WWE's take on George Dubya Bush?
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Vandar posted:APA Bradshaw was great and I liked seeing him on tv when I was younger. I mean, at least JBL was a heel and showed rear end sometimes.
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It holding the WWE title that didn't work. APA Bradshaw is one of my all-time favourites, watching him wreck stuff with Faarooq. Who wants to see that wrestler strip away everything that was good about them and be thrust into the world title scene. 2004 SmackDown was horrible.
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I was pretty checked out on wrestling during his transition from APA Bradshaw to JBL so I was very surprised to see the guy I remembered as a midcard no-nonsense asskicker was now in the main event with a boring rich guy gimmick when I tuned back in.
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What other "overnight" gimmick changes like that have there been? Where not only was it something completely different, but not nearly enough time had passed to keep people from saying "Weren't you just a wizard two weeks ago?"
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Pope Corky the IX posted:What other "overnight" gimmick changes like that have there been? Where not only was it something completely different, but not nearly enough time had passed to keep people from saying "Weren't you just a wizard two weeks ago?" Chavo dropping the Kerwin White gimmick for obvious reasons.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:What other "overnight" gimmick changes like that have there been? Where not only was it something completely different, but not nearly enough time had passed to keep people from saying "Weren't you just a wizard two weeks ago?" Comedy option: Fuego Dos. Those Runnels boys I tell ya hwat Apparently Scrypts is having this issue on NXT if Botchamania is to be believed?
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Yeah, I'm talking about a gimmick change where everyone is expected to accept that this is a completely different character or even person and not say a word despite them being well-known and/or their last appearance being just a few weeks/months ago.
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Snob Hunter Hearst Helmsley to crotch-chopping Triple H had a pretty quick transition.
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Was there any reason for Nikki Cross becoming Nikki ASH?
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Kennel posted:Was there any reason for Nikki Cross becoming Nikki ASH? As far as I know, mostly that her old character was dead in the water because Nikki Cross was a midcarder in a division that gives midcarders nothing, and she had a superhero idea in her back pocket. She convinced people in creative to give it a shot, they handled it horribly, and the rest is history. Unless you mean in-universe, which is a lot more relevant to the rest of the conversation. She definitely had a few weeks of thanking the audience for believing in her and making superhero metaphors before she went full superhero, so there was some transition between gimmicks.
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What about Umaga? How long had it been since he was in Three Minute Warning?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:What about Umaga? How long had it been since he was in Three Minute Warning? A few years. 3 Minute Warning was in 2002, was released in 2003, and he came back and debuted as Umaga after Wrestlemania 2006
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There was a thing where Umaga started cutting promos out of nowhere. After a few weeks, John Morrison reacted with, "Oh, that's right. You talk now."
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Hurricane Helms going from WCW Cruiserweight to superhero overnight.
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:A few years. 3 Minute Warning was in 2002, was released in 2003, and he came back and debuted as Umaga after Wrestlemania 2006 Thanks, I remembered it being a much shorter time period. I think Jacques Rougeau turning into the Mountie was about a year.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Yeah, I'm talking about a gimmick change where everyone is expected to accept that this is a completely different character or even person and not say a word despite them being well-known and/or their last appearance being just a few weeks/months ago. Fuego Dos is supposedly serpentico.
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One Man Gang to Akeem? Too Much to Too Cool?
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One time Brian Adams walked away from being in the nWo and was shown entering a limo that was implied to belong to KISS. He made a couple non-wrestling appearances as the KISS Demon before they decided to give that gimmick to Dale Torborg instead. So Adams just went back to wrestling as himself with no nWo affiliation for a bit, went off TV and came back so they could start KroniK.
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Rusty Shackelford posted:One Man Gang to Akeem? Unless they did something like having Slick take One Man Gang to Africa to find his roots, I think this is a perfect example.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Unless they did something like having Slick take One Man Gang to Africa to find his roots, I think this is a perfect example. They did actually do something like this and it was possibly more racist than you would think.
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Gavok posted:One time Brian Adams walked away from being in the nWo and was shown entering a limo that was implied to belong to KISS. He made a couple non-wrestling appearances as the KISS Demon before they decided to give that gimmick to Dale Torborg instead. So Adams just went back to wrestling as himself with no nWo affiliation for a bit, went off TV and came back so they could start KroniK.
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Gavok posted:They did actually do something like this and it was possibly more racist than you would think. You know, as I was typing that out I pretty much expected this kind of reply.
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Farooq went from the gladiator to leader of the Nation pretty quickly.
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Another example that comes to mind is Brutus Beefcake in the early 90's. Ed Leslie wrestled as Beefcake up until July of 1990, the month where he had his horrible parasailing accident. Obviously, he was off the table for a bit. He tried to make a comeback in the beginning of 1991 with a brand new gimmick that was never given an official name, but some fans called him "Furface." The idea of the gimmick was that he was some kind of wild man masked vigilante type. Whenever a heel would kick the poo poo out of their jobber opponent post-match, this mystery man would run out, lay out the heel and run away. He did this a handful of times before vanishing completely. His injury was still six months old, so I'm sure he was never going to get cleared and therefore had to scrap the gimmick. Instead, he went back to being Beefcake and hosted his Barbershop interview segment. It would take two more years for him to get cleared.
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:Farooq went from the gladiator to leader of the Nation pretty quickly. Pretty sure Kama Mustafa became The Godfather very quickly, too.
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I'm reading this article about the Great Muta on The Ringer and this stuck out to me. What's the deal with it being called the NWA "Worlds" Heavyweight Championship? Its not written as a possessive, so its a championship for multiple worlds? Like they promote shows on Mars?
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Lurks With Wolves posted:As far as I know, mostly that her old character was dead in the water because Nikki Cross was a midcarder in a division that gives midcarders nothing, and she had a superhero idea in her back pocket. She convinced people in creative to give it a shot, they handled it horribly, and the rest is history. It still makes me laugh she can't be A superhero. She's ALMOST a superhero. Maybe she sold it to Vince by saying it was about grabbing the brass ring.
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Gavok posted:Another example that comes to mind is Brutus Beefcake in the early 90's. Ed Leslie wrestled as Beefcake up until July of 1990, the month where he had his horrible parasailing accident. Obviously, he was off the table for a bit. He tried to make a comeback in the beginning of 1991 with a brand new gimmick that was never given an official name, but some fans called him "Furface." The idea of the gimmick was that he was some kind of wild man masked vigilante type. Whenever a heel would kick the poo poo out of their jobber opponent post-match, this mystery man would run out, lay out the heel and run away. He did this a handful of times before vanishing completely. I saw some of these segments when I was a kid and I was so pissed off that I was never given any kind of closure on them. Like "this guy beat the poo poo out of Earthquake! He must be the next big thing!" And nothing ever came of it. I think it was last year where I finally had it explained for me, possibly in this thread.
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Mike Jones had his name changed arbitrarily without necessarily even changing his look. WWF named him Virgil, then WCW one-upped them by naming him Vincent, renaming him Shane, and finally putting a cowboy hat on him and calling him Curly Bill. I think the last thing was purely to walk back the West Texas' Rednecks racist heel gimmick a bit.
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Gavok posted:They did actually do something like this and it was possibly more racist than you would think. This led to Slick trying to explain Akeem's origin to Arsenio Hall and Hall trying not to die
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if you buy into the ridiculous conspiracy theories theyre the same person, Elias/Ezekiel
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Super Dan posted:Pretty sure Kama Mustafa became The Godfather very quickly, too. I'm probably wrong but from memory it went like this. Cuts a promo during a Nation segment saying he is the godfather of wrestling. Next week is the godfather. That was it.
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How many gimmick names have there been to spite/reference Vince? Virgil -> Vincent Voodoo Kin Mafia Alright that's a short list but surely there are more I don't remember.
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I assume Papa Shango was off TV for a while before he became Kama Mustafa, right? e: yep, he left in 1993, came back in 1995 as Kama lmao Venomous fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Jan 21, 2023 |
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Every single junior in wrestling is a personal insult to Vince McMahon (Jr)
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brodie lee's act as the exalted one included a lot of vince mannerisms. it branched out from there but you could say the gimmick was mostly vince-based early on
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