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polyester concept
Mar 29, 2017

susan b buffering posted:

128 opus should be transparent. something else is up.


Beeftweeter posted:

opus absolutely should sound better than lame vbr at 128 kbps (cbr or otherwise). check if there's encoding settings

huh, I dunno. maybe it tries 128 but drops lower if cell reception is bad (part of my commute is outside of the city). i read somewhere that plex added on-the-fly quality adjusting to prevent stuttering which i thought was just for video, but could be for music too :shrug:

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Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN
yeah ironically opus is loving excellent at hiding being low bitrate lol

i'm guessing maybe the input mp3 decoder might be lovely in that case? if they use libavcodec for transcoding honestly neither should be bad, but what resampling it uses is up to the developer (same case with mediatoolbox on ios/macos). maybe see if theres any bug reports, i don't use plex

polyester concept
Mar 29, 2017

maybe i just have golden ears :smug:

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



I’m pretty sure that most of the music I have on a disk is 512k or whatever that vbr one was

in retrospect I wish I had done flac but even in the codecs I have it’s like 170gb of music, and in 2011 storing that would have cost too much

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

polyester concept posted:

maybe i just have golden ears :smug:

i mean, it is an actual possibility, lol. opus is still being actively developed too and it's possible there's a bug there also that most people just don't notice (or they know about it and it's just not fixed, etc). but generally opus at 128 kbps could be called "transparent" even if that isn't technically true

i would try to see if the same thing happens with a different encoder, you could use ffmpeg to script it on pretty much any platform

polyester concept
Mar 29, 2017

I obsessively seek out new music and have an obscene amount of flac files, not because I prefer to listen to lossless, but more so because I started obsessing about not having to transcode when i converted it to mp3 for my portable devices. i started ripping my cd collection in around 2007 or so and continued buying and ripping cds (and then keeping them in a box never to be seen by light again) until around the time covid finally broke the thrift store habit I had. plus a lot of downloads.

I have about 1.5 TB of music which is probably nothing compared to some people's movie or tv libraries, but it makes all of the playlist-building AI features of plex really fun and i'm always rediscovering old music in my library.

i've had more last.fm scrobbles in 2022 than any year prior, which is kind of crazy. the lulls in my listening habits oddly match up with periods of depression. strange how that works

polyester concept fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Jan 27, 2023

susan b buffering
Nov 14, 2016

yeah i'm into flac for archival reasons. all that poo poo's getting transcoded for mobile + my ears are probably too hosed to care anyways

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN
ffmpeg is pretty helpful with stuff like that

but lol, i totally get it. i have a couple tb of movies and stuff i've ripped over the years from physical dvds still laying around in mpeg-2, their original format. most modern devices have hardware that can decode it but they usually don't even bother, it's really not a great format. but h264 wasn't really archival quality either, even if it was maybe 2 gb for something at the same perceived quality vs. 4.7 or 9 for the full thing (or whatever). it just wasn't good enough

mp3 is definitely like that but honestly "high bitrate" opus is probably good enough for most people. since it's designed for low bitrates, 128 kbps is actually very high for opus lol

Roosevelt
Jul 18, 2009

I'm looking for the man who shot my paw.

aylon mooooosk

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

FAT32 SHAMER posted:

they do deals literally all the time that make it $1/mo and at that point people are like ok yeah what the heck sure

that's why my parents have it

polyester concept
Mar 29, 2017

the only time i ever listened to sirius was when i was sitting in my mother in law's (at the time) jeep and scanning through channels, and there was some talk radio show where a girl was asking if it was normal for her boyfriend to enjoy watching her sit on the toilet so he could see the cum drain out of her rear end after anal sex

polyester concept
Mar 29, 2017

i do remember it was quite bad audio quality

the jeep also had a label on the entertainment center that said "hard disc[sic] drive" which made me grimace

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



polyester concept posted:

I obsessively seek out new music and have an obscene amount of flac files, not because I prefer to listen to lossless, but more so because I started obsessing about not having to transcode when i converted it to mp3 for my portable devices. i started ripping my cd collection in around 2007 or so and continued buying and ripping cds (and then keeping them in a box never to be seen by light again) until around the time covid finally broke the thrift store habit I had. plus a lot of downloads.

I have about 1.5 TB of music which is probably nothing compared to some people's movie or tv libraries, but it makes all of the playlist-building AI features of plex really fun and i'm always rediscovering old music in my library.

i've had more last.fm scrobbles in 2022 than any year prior, which is kind of crazy. the lulls in my listening habits oddly match up with periods of depression. strange how that works



I didn’t know plex did this for music

this is gonna own

polyester concept
Mar 29, 2017

plexamp rules

DELETE CASCADE
Oct 25, 2017

i haven't washed my penis since i jerked it to a phtotograph of george w. bush in 2003
the speakers in my chevy ain't good enough to hear the difference so :shrug:

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN
unless you're using a paper cup tied to a string they probably are

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

the other thing is different channels have different bandwidth, so they can cram a lot of 8kbps compressed talk radio into one 128kbit satellite stream but only a few music channels at 48 or 64

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

Sudden Loud Noise posted:

Ford has the good implementation of this:

https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/02/im-obsessed-with-the-ford-mustang-mach-e-physical-touchscreen-volume-knob/

Just put a dial on the touchscreen with a fake finger tip on the backside of it.

lol that this is the "good" implementation.




Look at the button lag ffs

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN
lmao who the gently caress wants a knob in the middle of a touchscreen

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN
three olives has that car, lmao

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
it appears to not even work?

i feel like im being trolled by that article. did this author emerge from the womb and start driving in like 2019 or smth

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



it’s a capacitive thingo that they super glue onto the screen

arguably a step up from the user two finger touch + twisting the screen, but obviously a step down from an actual knob

Pigbuster
Sep 12, 2010

Fun Shoe

Beeftweeter posted:

lmao who the gently caress wants a knob in the middle of a touchscreen

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

El Mero Mero posted:

lol that this is the "good" implementation.




Look at the button lag ffs

that looks like it might be intended behavior to simulate a volume plus power knob with a detent?

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



the eMach had one of the lowest consumer reliability ratings of all the EVs, alongside Tesla lol

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Beeftweeter posted:

three olives has that car, lmao

well three olives is by far the biggest knob on any screen

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



polyester concept posted:

the only time i ever listened to sirius was when i was sitting in my mother in law's (at the time) jeep and scanning through channels, and there was some talk radio show where a girl was asking if it was normal for her boyfriend to enjoy watching her sit on the toilet so he could see the cum drain out of her rear end after anal sex

they used to have a porn channel where you could listen to creeps call in to solicit phone sex from the cast of fifty-year-old former porn star hosts and ask them astonishingly gross questions like that.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

they also employed Anthony Cumia for years

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Roosevelt posted:

aylon mooooosk

but we're talking about a satellite service that's only really useful in a few niche applications but is claiming to have a much larger applicable userbase and market than it really does, how is musk not involved

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

i had an xm radio someone didn't want anymore and gave to me for free when i was like 16 and it still had a whole week subscription so i listened to the gay channel a bunch (back when there really wasn't much gay content openly available, especially not in fuckin' florida) and it was pretty okay and kinda affirming :shobon:

had some good tips for keeping your butt clean for anal sex that were particularly helpful

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
My only experience with XM or Sirius or whatever was in a rental car in the US. The demo subscription expired in the middle of the trip through like Nevada or something which sucked because I had no aux cable with me.

hobbesmaster posted:

that looks like it might be intended behavior to simulate a volume plus power knob with a detent?

Detents don't cause a lag/skipping like this though

refleks
Nov 21, 2006



lotta knob talk in here... think more people should turn on their monitor

refleks
Nov 21, 2006



Who the gently caress is Dave Rubin and why do I assume he is a right-wing bootlicking shitheel based on this thread, but especially by these two sycophantic tweets:

https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1618676083775406080?s=20

https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1618679402325508097?s=20

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Beeftweeter posted:

yeah i mean they could have transitioned to actually using it, idk

he-aac is pretty decent at 96 kbps, but anything lower than that sounds pretty bad imo. most of the time it's obvious that it's not high bitrate, but i guess you'd have to know what to listen for

Laughs in DAB+ (most radios are broadcasted at 64kbps)

YerDa Zabam
Aug 13, 2016



gonna buffer overflow my car so I can jailbreak it for free dlc heated seats

what a world

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

refleks posted:

Who the gently caress is Dave Rubin and why do I assume he is a right-wing bootlicking shitheel based on this thread, but especially by these two sycophantic tweets:

https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1618676083775406080?s=20

https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1618679402325508097?s=20
David Rubin is a gay conservative who is still dumb enough to be a gay conservative. He tries not to acknowledge that basically 95% of the audience he formerly garnered probably would cave his head in now, and is one of the people whining about engagement being down

Also in sorta Elon related news I recall hearing something about that open source flighttracking network being sold off to a commercial entity so everyone who was contributing data to it for free has been turning their trackers off. I think that was the principle network Elonjet was using to get around Elon blocking tracking of his jet on one of the other commercial networks

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

David Rubin used to be a liberal commentator on The Young Turks but after meeting with some dudes who slid a briefcase of money to him across a table decided that the left was becoming too PC and it was actually the political right who were the tolerant ones. He now works for Glen Beck and licks boots for the GOP.

There's a hilarious clip a while back of him talking with Ben Shapiro about how, again, the left are intolerant, and that despite Ben Shapiro being deeply religious he would still come to Rubin's gay wedding, to which Shapiro just straight up goes "no I would not" and Rubin ends up negotiating down to "would you bake me a cake for the anniversary?" and Shapiro is just "no" and the look on his face is priceless as he has to then be like "well the left is still more intolerant" while clearly feeling hurt.

Hope the money's worth it Dave.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Tesseraction posted:

David Rubin used to be a liberal commentator on The Young Turks but after meeting with some dudes who slid a briefcase of money to him across a table decided that the left was becoming too PC and it was actually the political right who were the tolerant ones. He now works for Glen Beck and licks boots for the GOP.

There's a hilarious clip a while back of him talking with Ben Shapiro about how, again, the left are intolerant, and that despite Ben Shapiro being deeply religious he would still come to Rubin's gay wedding, to which Shapiro just straight up goes "no I would not" and Rubin ends up negotiating down to "would you bake me a cake for the anniversary?" and Shapiro is just "no" and the look on his face is priceless as he has to then be like "well the left is still more intolerant" while clearly feeling hurt.

Hope the money's worth it Dave.

lmao what a fuckin' maroon

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Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

FAT32 SHAMER posted:

I’m pretty sure that most of the music I have on a disk is 512k or whatever that vbr one was

in retrospect I wish I had done flac but even in the codecs I have it’s like 170gb of music, and in 2011 storing that would have cost too much
yeah storage is cheap these days

ripped all my cds like 15? years ago, had 3 machines going at the same time lol

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