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speng31b posted:bye bye rat man rest in piss I had to check what thread I was in, I thought something happened to Buttigieg.
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Ratzinger was secretly tried and then executed by white hats in the Swiss Guard. Trust the plan. There are no coincidences. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ousted-vatican-auditor-deputy-sue-holy-see-925-million-2022-11-10/ quote:VATICAN CITY, Nov 10 (Reuters) - The Vatican's first auditor general and his deputy, who were appointed in 2015 and fired two years later, are suing the Holy See for 9.3 million euros ($9.25 million) in damages, alleging they were sacked after discovering financial irregularities.
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Weka posted:I had to check what thread I was in, I thought something happened to Buttigieg. if only we were so lucky btw remember when mike pence said he hosed a horse? Fun times
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The bad man was punished by... living in luxury and comfort and dying at age 95??
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:The bad man was punished by... living in luxury and comfort and dying at age 95?? The 8th amendment prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment doesnt apply to papal states
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:The bad man was punished by... living in luxury and comfort and dying at age 95?? better late than never
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The worst, most weird Catholic shitheads in the US had their NYE ruined by Joey Rats eating dirt. And that's not nothing.
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remember when he said galileo deserved the inquisition also how he was protecting outed pedophile church officials to use in his weird little factional struggle with francis rest in piss ratboy joe
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Jan 1, 2023 06:43
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hit the road ratz and don't you come back no more no more no more no more
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https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1612154279984304131?s=20&t=44J1OsnooIKl_8ToGjSWmg https://twitter.com/NCRonline/status/1611457386996178951?s=20&t=44J1OsnooIKl_8ToGjSWmg quote:With the same spirit and aims that behind his recent reform and reorganization of the Roman Curia, Pope Francis, as Bishop of Rome, has overhauled the Vicariate of Rome.
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Frankie needs to go Clement V on their asses
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extremely pro follow. this guy is so lucidly unhinged it's great https://twitter.com/pope_head/status/1617590556028190720 https://twitter.com/pope_head/status/1617622277813829632 https://twitter.com/pope_head/status/1617643825983524869 https://twitter.com/pope_head/status/1617661274971869187
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lol. Frank is gonna have to call the Dominicans in to get their hands dirty.
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i think my man has his head on straight https://twitter.com/pope_head/status/1617863651242954753
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here's the good poo poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnEACbDLwxY
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Begun, the pope wars have. https://twitter.com/JamesMartinSJ/status/1618216680869752833 https://twitter.com/C_Stroop/status/1618297761493061634
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so has Francis been declared Anti-pope or assassinated yet?
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Time to resurrect the Avignon papacy
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what do Huguenots believe? cuz that seems like a cool name
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:what do Huguenots believe? cuz that seems like a cool name huge nuts
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:what do Huguenots believe? cuz that seems like a cool name It's misleading, they were just French Calvinists.
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what's up with the jesuits and why are they considered on the liberal wing of the church today?
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Jesuits are outside of the normal hierarchy, IE they don't have to answer to a local bishop, only their own Jesuit bishops. A lot of them do time working with them poor in Latin America, and become anti-imperialist from that experience.
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Speleothing posted:Jesuits are outside of the normal hierarchy, IE they don't have to answer to a local bishop, only their own Jesuit bishops. They were the liberalish wing way before that. For example they were engaged in translating christian works into China and Chinese works into Latin and helping Imperial China to Modernize untill they got censored for being ok with some lite ancestor worship. The white guy who assisted indigenous scholars to preserve what few remaining Maya codexies survived was Jesuit. iirc their liberal tendencies come from founding and running a lot of schools and universities in a time when most education was done only for upper class kids by private tutors War and Pieces has issued a correction as of 21:51 on Jan 27, 2023 |
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i say swears online posted:what's up with the jesuits and why are they considered on the liberal wing of the church today? Jesuits cause problems for entrenched power structures. it's kind of their thing there's a tradition of secular education among Jesuits as well as (they'd never describe it this way) pushing against the boundaries of Catholic doctrine in areas of philosophy and science, which in the past 50ish years has started to include the social sciences, so they're typically on the forefront of progressive movements in the Catholic Church. they get yelled at a lot for trying to argue against codified doctrine on stuff like abortion and divorce, or maybe they go and help invent Liberation Theology. historically they (as individuals, provinces, and even the order as a whole) get suppressed, excommunicated, or condemned for heresy a lot and usually reconcile but then a generation later the church might quietly allow or adopt those positions they've been linked to attempted regicide in both England and France (it's questionable how involved they were, but it shows they were so disliked by some kings that it was a political win to tar them as unlawful). most western European countries banned them wholesale in the run up to the French Revolution and didn't let them back in for a long time, Norway only repealed those laws after WWII lol they also use their powers for evil like when they argue that the colonization and genocide of the Americas were spiritually justified. they're still Catholics after all. but generally if you have to have a conversation a Catholic priest your best bet is with a Jesuit. in high school my Jesuit priest Latin teacher would end class on Friday by saying "remember don't mix booze and drugs and please wear a condom they're free at planned parenthood" which was an excommunicatable offense lol. he was 6'10
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they're literal Social Justice Warriors, it's where the term originates. at least I was trained to be a sjw in my jesuit education long before it was a shorthand for right wing culture war crap.
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Speleothing posted:Jesuits are outside of the normal hierarchy, IE they don't have to answer to a local bishop, only their own Jesuit bishops. So they are the Space Marines of the Church?
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In Training posted:they're literal Social Justice Warriors, it's where the term originates. at least I was trained to be a sjw in my jesuit education long before it was a shorthand for right wing culture war crap. cool
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Tankbuster posted:So they are the Space Marines of the Church? I am sure somebody in 40K would be titled "The Black Pope" if it had not already been taken.
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In Frankie the Tankie's defence, I don't think he could make much change by saying homosexuality is totally sweet but by saying it's still a sin but should be legal he stands to maybe help make a real difference.War and Pieces posted:I am sure somebody in 40K would be titled "The Black Pope" if it had not already been taken. WH40K more progressive than the Catholic church.
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He could have dodged the question.
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Weka posted:In Frankie the Tankie's defence, I don't think he could make much change by saying homosexuality is totally sweet but by saying it's still a sin but should be legal he stands to maybe help make a real difference. it isn't a sin to be gay or even live with your gay partner it's just a sin to have sex with them
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indigi posted:it isn't a sin to be gay or even live with your gay partner it's just a sin to have sex with them The line gay priests generally take is that being gay isn't a sin, having gay sex or living with a same sex partner is, but priests don't get to do that stuff with anyone regardless of gender, and it would be just as sinful to do that stuff with a woman so as long as they remain celebate they're cool with God.
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indigi posted:it isn't a sin to be gay or even live with your gay partner it's just a sin to have sex with them It isn't a sin to be straight but it is a sin to live with your straight partner outside of marriage so gays get a one up in that regard.
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Also a sin to remarry after getting divorced. Jesus was really clear on that point.
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only if you don't get an annulment, and also Frank might have changed that doctrine in the footnotes
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I think this may be an unwritten rule but it's definitely a sin to have a happy heterosexual marriage
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Azathoth posted:priests don't get to do that stuff with anyone regardless of gender, and it would be just as sinful to do that stuff with a woman so as long as they remain celebate they're cool with God. The Second Lateran Council of 1139 set this in stone for Roman Catholics but Orthodox allows priests to marry before ordination, and most Orthodox priests are married ☦️ regarding divorce, quote:Formal unity must be consistent with internal symphony between husband and wife. When the couple can no longer salvage anything of this internal symphony, the bond that was originally considered indissoluble has already dissolved. Further, the Church recognizes there are cases in which marriage life has no content or may even lead to loss of the soul. Saint John Chrysostom says in this regard: “better to break the covenant than to lose one’s soul”. mawarannahr has issued a correction as of 22:44 on Jan 28, 2023 |
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Azathoth posted:Also a sin to remarry after getting divorced. Jesus was really clear on that point. Is it? I remember in Matthew he's mostly massively annoyed a bunch of idiots are missing the point The vibe was one of "poo poo god drat you idiot" so it's hard to imagine the explicit text as important
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