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It looks like something you'd use to stage an accident in Hitman.
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Upstairs Doorstairs.
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Sagebrush posted:That looks like a San Francisco Special, except none of the houses here have basements. So you're saying that belongs to the Zodiac killer?
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PurpleXVI posted:So the main issue here is that if something DOES go wrong, it's likely going to go wrong in a space where you won't immediately notice it and where the water damage will be a LOT worse than just about anywhere else. That's not the issue at all. If something went wrong with the plumbing for a normal shower you wouldn't notice it either (how often do you open the access panel for your showers plumbing, assuming code even required one when your shower was installed). The biggest issue is that its a shower in an unconverted bath. None of the surfaces outside of the tub are fully waterproofed so they'll get damp, the drywall behind them (because there's definitely not waterproof backing board) will get damp and you'll get mildew on the inside and the outside. Getting mildew in the cabinet is gonna happen but its the least of your concern compared to everything else
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Tiles: how do they fit together? ("That would fit right in with your bathroom," my dad said.)
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Slanderer posted:That's not the issue at all. If something went wrong with the plumbing for a normal shower you wouldn't notice it either (how often do you open the access panel for your showers plumbing, assuming code even required one when your shower was installed). The biggest issue is that its a shower in an unconverted bath. None of the surfaces outside of the tub are fully waterproofed so they'll get damp, the drywall behind them (because there's definitely not waterproof backing board) will get damp and you'll get mildew on the inside and the outside. Getting mildew in the cabinet is gonna happen but its the least of your concern compared to everything else I've never lived anywhere built more recently than 1993. Where does code require access panels for shower guts?
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Probably Chicago so they can pull all the lead pipes out of the walls eventually.
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Some areas of the US have it but I think it's just that you need a shutoff for the hot/cold water lines inside the room so you don't need to turn off the whole house and they're probably going to be in the wall. You don't need access to the back of the mixer valve or anything. ...I think. I'm pretty hazy because it's been forever since I've needed to know.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Probably Chicago so they can pull all the lead pipes out of the walls eventually. Still better than polybutylene.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:I've never lived anywhere built more recently than 1993. Where does code require access panels for shower guts? CRUSTY MINGE posted:Probably Chicago so they can pull all the lead pipes out of the walls eventually. If so, the regulation didn't make it all the way out to the burbs. I wish it had; it would be convenient to have shower shutoff valves for when I need to replace the goddamn cheapass 1980s soft plastic Nibco valve cartridge thingy every five years or so.
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I doubt it's much a thing anywhere but if you want an access panel there's probably code the covers it. Chicago itself had a lot of lead pipes though.
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Good floor planning is a loss art
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This makes me irrationally angry.
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Beef Of Ages posted:This makes me irrationally angry. It's often harder on the resident than on the architect.
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Huh, so that's what a water closet looks like
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Another loss edit
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Cat Hatter posted:Still better than polybutylene. Wikipedia claims it's still commonly used (increasing, even) in some markets. It looks like it's the chlorine compounds in chlorinated water that breaks it down, so I guess it would be ok in regions that use oxygen/UV/whatever treatments instead?
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Powered Descent posted:If so, the regulation didn't make it all the way out to the burbs. I wish it had; it would be convenient to have shower shutoff valves for when I need to replace the goddamn cheapass 1980s soft plastic Nibco valve cartridge thingy every five years or so. Many single-handed diverters have shut off valves right on the body itself. 
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Computer viking posted:Wikipedia claims it's still commonly used (increasing, even) in some markets. It looks like it's the chlorine compounds in chlorinated water that breaks it down, so I guess it would be ok in regions that use oxygen/UV/whatever treatments instead? I still wouldn't trust it. There is an entire industry that does nothing but replace people's leaky PB pipes and PEX isn't hideously expensive or anything. Besides, "our pipes are fine as long as the composition of our water never changes" isn't really something you want to rely on. Ask the people in Flint.
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The house looks fine, the use of color is pleasant enough, but the perspective is a bit wonky (look at the lower row of windows). Besides, isn't that a Hitler painting?
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Computer viking posted:The house looks fine, the use of color is pleasant enough, but the perspective is a bit wonky (look at the lower row of windows). Wonky perspective architectural drawing masquerading as a painting and presented without comment is 100% going to be a Hitler.
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slurm posted:Wonky perspective architectural drawing masquerading as a painting and presented without comment is 100% going to be a Hitler. Hitler was the original AI art bot.
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There probably actually were stairs built in front of that window. Now the perspective, that is all on ol’ Adolf. P.S. How tall is that door?
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Computer viking posted:Wikipedia claims it's still commonly used (increasing, even) in some markets. It looks like it's the chlorine compounds in chlorinated water that breaks it down, so I guess it would be ok in regions that use oxygen/UV/whatever treatments instead? The local water system changed their bacterial control over to chlorine, guess I'll just have to re-pipe my whole house. (correct thread for this suggestion)
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UV is a supplemental treatment. They still have to add chemicals because even if the water came out of the UV chambers totally sterile, there’s no guarantee that it stays that way as it moves through countless miles of pipes.
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Platystemon posted:UV is a supplemental treatment. They still have to add chemicals because even if the water came out of the UV chambers totally sterile, there’s no guarantee that it stays that way as it moves through countless miles of pipes.
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Slugworth posted:We should just make the pipes out of uv. BRB, writing a proposal to use municipal water pipes as lightguides to directed pulsed UV that carries Internet traffic.
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https://twitter.com/PlanningShit/status/1622305929902301184?s=20&t=_YKpJUTHZTRNhKjuNKKV2Q
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Dick Trauma posted:https://twitter.com/PlanningShit/status/1622305929902301184?s=20&t=_YKpJUTHZTRNhKjuNKKV2Q This is what I see. 
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Platystemon posted:UV is a supplemental treatment. They still have to add chemicals because even if the water came out of the UV chambers totally sterile, there’s no guarantee that it stays that way as it moves through countless miles of pipes. I don't know anything about anything, but doesn't UV light have to hit (whatever) for several minutes to actually kill whatever its trying to kill? So if you have pipes with water going through them would they not have to be really long, (or flowing really slowly I suppose) to actually do the killing? Or I suppose big rear end tanks that the water goes in to for uv application I guess.
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wesleywillis posted:I don't know anything about anything, but doesn't UV light have to hit (whatever) for several minutes to actually kill whatever its trying to kill? The stronger the UV the faster it works, the stuff you can safely and practically do in a water cooled closed tube is going to be a lot stronger than in open air.
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Taken to the extreme, with a strong enough uv source, you could strap James Bond to a table and cut him in half.
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Cat Hatter posted:Taken to the extreme, with a strong enough uv source, you could strap James Bond to a table and cut him in half. Wow, I never thought you could use it to tie someone down!
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Friend of mine lived in a farmhouse in Shanksville, PA, in a valley that was chiefly dairy farms....so all of the water was contaminated with fecal coliform. He installed a UV system to kill it: it consisted of bombarding the water by using six 8' long UV tube lights surrounding a glass pipe that all of the well-water ran through. It worked fine but his water pressure was really low.
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I don't know any more specs, but here's a 2007 image of the UV section of the water works that supply most of Oslo: "Cables for the fluorescent tubes are visible on the exterior of the UV installation that will kill potential parasites. The UV filter will be put into use in a couple of weeks". Computer viking fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Feb 5, 2023 |
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