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Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

MonsieurChoc posted:

Homestuck is very good but also gets bad and does not really have a satisfying conclusion. Still well worth reading imho, but if you find yourself hating it at some point no shame in bailing out.

So much like the Book of the New Sun?

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Fun Times!
Dec 26, 2010

Kesper North posted:

the thing about harrow for each of those named people, i think, is that she is a tryhard's tryhard

Harrow ain't tryin

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Fun Times! posted:

Harrow ain't tryin

Harrow's trying to get with the hot cold corpse and that's it.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Get busy tryin' and get busy dyin'.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Get in line thou big slut

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks
Get ready for more short story / supplemental back matter stuff!

https://twitter.com/tordotcompub/status/1618987204738416640?s=46&t=SA41pP7g4Dbt0fMXPLiFBg

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy :neckbeard:

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Happy Landfill posted:

Oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy :neckbeard:

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Someone made a fan-cover for Alecto and it kicks a lot of rear end

https://www.tumblr.com/noctilia/708119213415530496/alecto-the-ninth-cover

Leng
May 13, 2006

One song / Glory
One song before I go / Glory
One song to leave behind


No other road
No other way
No day but today

Happy Landfill posted:

Someone made a fan-cover for Alecto and it kicks a lot of rear end

https://www.tumblr.com/noctilia/708119213415530496/alecto-the-ninth-cover

That is just wow. Absolutely amazing.

Edit: some of the work in progress shots here:
https://noctilia.tumblr.com/post/708176650299392000/thought-yall-might-enjoy-the-progress-screenshots

Finagle
Feb 18, 2007

Looks like we have a neighsayer
Watching Annie with the wife and kiddo. When the orphans all started dancing to hard knock life i leaned over and whispered "ninth house nursery moments before the gas" and my wife choked on her drink.

Annie even has red hair, now I'm wondering how far I can take this joke...

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Any poo poo post can be dragged to the horizon as long as you believe in yourself

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


I am reading Harrow the ninth. About to be finished. I don't mind Tamsyn's style. It works well for what she's writing about, but oh my loving god there is just a little too much cringe sometimes.

"Awake Remembrance of These Valliant Dead Kia Hua Ko Te Pai Snap Back to Reality Oops There Goes Gravity" is the dumbest loving thing i've ever read that wasn't a forum post.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Riot Bimbo posted:

I am reading Harrow the ninth. About to be finished. I don't mind Tamsyn's style. It works well for what she's writing about, but oh my loving god there is just a little too much cringe sometimes.

"Awake Remembrance of These Valliant Dead Kia Hua Ko Te Pai Snap Back to Reality Oops There Goes Gravity" is the dumbest loving thing i've ever read that wasn't a forum post.

It's incredible

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




Yeah I'm fine with it. That sort of over-the-top but self-aware cringe is very much in the tradition of Douglas Adams / Terry Pratchett, and sits pretty well in between all the more deathly serious themes.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




I found this recently and really liked it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFdQ2Yl5o5s

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Lead out in cuffs posted:

Yeah I'm fine with it. That sort of over-the-top but self-aware cringe is very much in the tradition of Douglas Adams / Terry Pratchett, and sits pretty well in between all the more deathly serious themes.

it's fine but it's the stuff i enjoy least i guess? like it doesn't gently caress with the story really it's just like brief flashes of "this should've been dropped in a revision probably" + cringe

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









There's an explanation of why BOE names are like that in the appendices, but that certainly is peak tamsyn

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

It works for me, since it’s the first full BoE name we get and the first direct pre-Resurrection cultural reference we get that isn’t Jod regurgitating memes that can be excused as the author’s voice. And it’s also acknowledged as being incredibly dumb even for a BoE name.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006


My only complaint is that Jod never mocked her by calling her Commander Wake Me Up Before You Go Go.

mewse
May 2, 2006

Riot Bimbo posted:

it's fine but it's the stuff i enjoy least i guess? like it doesn't gently caress with the story really it's just like brief flashes of "this should've been dropped in a revision probably" + cringe

I think in the afterword for Nona, Tamsyn mentions that her editor convinced her to use less memes in Nona and going forward, so you're not the only one who dislikes it.

I enjoyed the memes and thought they added to the off-kilter feel of the writing, but it seems like a lot of people hated 'em.

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

I like how the memes and dumb jokes are entirely in keeping with the setting, and I would enjoy them even if they weren't. Turns out jokes and funny things are good.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
I still want to know which meme it was she slipped in to Nona that Carl didn't notice until someone pointed it out after reading the ARC

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Happy Landfill posted:

I still want to know which meme it was she slipped in to Nona that Carl didn't notice until someone pointed it out after reading the ARC

If it’s someone telling Pash that of course they have blue hair and pronouns…

I think someone posted the differences between the ARC and hardcover on Reddit but I can’t find it now.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

mewse posted:

I think in the afterword for Nona, Tamsyn mentions that her editor convinced her to use less memes in Nona and going forward, so you're not the only one who dislikes it.

I enjoyed the memes and thought they added to the off-kilter feel of the writing, but it seems like a lot of people hated 'em.

The impression I got from that was more that if she didn't have her editor reining her in, the memes would come even thicker and deeper until you needed scuba gear and not just hip waders.

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


It's not even like there were that many fewer memes in Nona, it's just that you only notice like half of them if you grew up in Aotearoa New Zealand.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









cptn_dr posted:

It's not even like there were that many fewer memes in Nona, it's just that you only notice like half of them if you grew up in Aotearoa New Zealand.

yeah nona has loads of memes

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


I am loving these books, to be clear. this was a minor irk, and the one i quoted specifically was the most egregious "i dont think i enjoyed that" moment.

John follows up with a brutal dad joke a few pages later and it made me giggle like an idiot even though the vibe was more or less the same, so like understand how non-severe this complaint is.

I'm several dozen pages into Nona so far and mostly wondering what the hell.

Is this gonna be as mind-hosed as Harrow The Ninth? That book really did capture the vibe of a highly disorienting and unpleasant dream

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Yes, in a different way. It rewards rereading because there's loads of stuff that Nona sees but really doesn't understand.

Also read the short story, written in haste or w/e, it's got a lot of important context

vvv ty

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

Riot Bimbo posted:

Is this gonna be as mind-hosed as Harrow The Ninth? That book really did capture the vibe of a highly disorienting and unpleasant dream

A quote from the author, which I think about regularly;

Tamsyn Muir posted:

there is no way a book from the POV of Harrowhark Nonagesimus should look or feel or sound anything like a book from the POV of Gideon Nav. Harrow’s brain is a length of rusty barbed wire locked in a box buried in a desert. Gideon’s brain is that YouTube video of the German guy who tries to jump through the ice on a swimming pool but the ice doesn’t break, so he just hurts his arse really badly and he’s lying there going ‘ah, mein Arsch, mein Arsch’ while all his friends kill themselves laughing. Nona’s brain is a GIF I saw of a dog jumping over a really high gate by whirling its tail like a propeller.

Seconding reading As Yet Unsent, contextualizes a very important relationship that Nona kind of glazes over in the book. It's available on tordotcom for free if your copy of Harrow doesn't have it.

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

For reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd7c5tQCs1I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1wdjysf5x8

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

cptn_dr posted:

It's not even like there were that many fewer memes in Nona, it's just that you only notice like half of them if you grew up in Aotearoa New Zealand.

I asked my Kiwi friend what a pikelet is and they had no idea.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Luigi Thirty posted:

I asked my Kiwi friend what a pikelet is and they had no idea.

it's...just a pancake, right? it's just bisquick

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


Yeah pikelets are in the Edmonds Cookbook, they're not exactly obscure.

That said, if you were born after... I dunno, '95 or so, you might not have heard them called anything other than hotcakes, I think stuff got way more Americanised once the internet hit it big.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

Riot Bimbo posted:

I am loving these books, to be clear. this was a minor irk, and the one i quoted specifically was the most egregious "i dont think i enjoyed that" moment.

John follows up with a brutal dad joke a few pages later and it made me giggle like an idiot even though the vibe was more or less the same, so like understand how non-severe this complaint is.

I'm several dozen pages into Nona so far and mostly wondering what the hell.

Is this gonna be as mind-hosed as Harrow The Ninth? That book really did capture the vibe of a highly disorienting and unpleasant dream

I think the only meme that doesn't land for me is None House With Left Grief. I just feel like that one could have been workshopped a little more. It's a bit clunky. I've warmed up to it in a weird way if only because Harrow, a deeply traumatized , immortal teenager has zero context for what he just said, and also, dude, now is not the time to drop a 10,000 year old meme and that's what makes it funny. I also just worry it's the bit that's going to age the worst.

"She was studying the blade" really works because contextually it fits right in with what Harrow is trying to say about Gideon, while also insulting/complimenting her; and the Cool S scene works because the point of the scene is that, regardless of what's on the page, Harrow is reading something that isn't actually there. I feel like Left House stops the scene a bit because I had to take a second to re-contextualize what he was saying...I just feel like it didn't slot in to the conversation as neatly as some of the others did. But I am hardly a meme connoisseur :shrug:

Nona takes a bit to rev up; I thought it was a little slow at first but once you hit Day 3 things start to get real interesting

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Part of the reason some of the memes are so out of place is because god is an internet shitlord

Goffer
Apr 4, 2007
"..."

Riot Bimbo posted:

I'm several dozen pages into Nona so far and mostly wondering what the hell.

Is this gonna be as mind-hosed as Harrow The Ninth? That book really did capture the vibe of a highly disorienting and unpleasant dream

It's not so much a mindfuck as a really positive mindset child's adventure through a dystopian hellscape.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

silvergoose posted:

Part of the reason some of the memes are so out of place is because god is an internet shitlord

God is a poo poo lord. Just a pathetic, sopping wet man, who is also God.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Riot Bimbo posted:

I am loving these books, to be clear. this was a minor irk, and the one i quoted specifically was the most egregious "i dont think i enjoyed that" moment.

John follows up with a brutal dad joke a few pages later and it made me giggle like an idiot even though the vibe was more or less the same, so like understand how non-severe this complaint is.

I'm several dozen pages into Nona so far and mostly wondering what the hell.

Is this gonna be as mind-hosed as Harrow The Ninth? That book really did capture the vibe of a highly disorienting and unpleasant dream

If you're into books that feel like a nightmare you can't wake up from, try The Pattern Scars

the author married Peter Watts and I could not possibly be less surprised

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Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Google Jeb Bush posted:

If you're into books that feel like a nightmare you can't wake up from, try The Pattern Scars

the author married Peter Watts and I could not possibly be less surprised
I'll look into it, but I am good at making my own nightmares generally, and I don't read a whole lot of fiction any more. I was impressed with Harrowhark's capture of a thing I've experienced a bit of, though.

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