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mystes posted:I mean to be fair, making side streets safe for everyone (including kids) to bike on is actually a good idea, and there have been some good videos on youtube about how in reality making streets safe to bike in is a bigger part of the cycling infrastructure in the netherlands than the actual bike paths, but there's no way in hell anyone in the US is actually going to do what it takes to make streets legitimately safe, much less some rear end in a top hat writing into the newspaper to complain about bike paths I think actionjackson's point is that the dude is arguing against himself. Although looking at a map of that part of St Paul (never been), it's almost all low-density SFH with tons of room for bike lanes everywhere so wtf are people whining about?
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they want bike lanes to allow rich people to bike from rich people houses to rich people destinations, but they do not want poor people to bike anywhere near rich people nor do they want poor people biking to interrupt rich people in cars
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Feb 17, 2023 01:59
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Infrastructure success posted on Reddit.
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eXXon posted:I think actionjackson's point is that the dude is arguing against himself. Although looking at a map of that part of St Paul (never been), it's almost all low-density SFH with tons of room for bike lanes everywhere so wtf are people whining about? well yes, it's a huge street (actually parkway in some segments) that neighborhood is the only one that didn't sign onto the proposal from a transit group here to replace I-94 with a boulevard lol note the home size - that's not an outlier
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the parks board of Vancouver, Canada, just voted to rip out the pandemic-era separated bike lanes built in Stanley Park a large, peninsular urban park that is surrounded by water on 3 sides so that motorists can once again enjoy two lanes of vehicular access to gawk at trees from. dont let anyone tell you that Vancouver is some kind of biking paradise
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actionjackson posted:simply not enough room
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sitchensis posted:the parks board of Vancouver, Canada, just voted to rip out the pandemic-era separated bike lanes built in Stanley Park a large, peninsular urban park that is surrounded by water on 3 sides so that motorists can once again enjoy two lanes of vehicular access to gawk at trees from. Why's every city in North America like this  
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Nitevision posted:Why's every city in North America like this Success story here then: First summer of the pandemic, Montreal put in protected unidirectional bike lanes down both sides of Christophe-Colomb boulevard, a six-lane road crossing fully half the city. They were temporary but well protected, the only caveat being they didn't change the traffic lights to add a bike cycle, so turning motorists were a problem. All the cyclists used the hell out of it. Residents were happy because the side streets weren't full of bike commuters and kids could use the smaller bike paths without supervision now. Then at the end of the summer they took it out and didn't put it back in, and I was devastated. And this summer it's going back in again, permanently! As one of the city's major bike highways to use as actual efficient transportation through the city in a straight line without loving around at stop signs and in the neighbourhoods! It also turned out (who coulda guessed) to be a really pleasant, well-lit and safe tree-lined street when it went down to only one lane of motor traffic in each direction, instead of the usual oppressive four to five lane highway.
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Nitevision posted:Why's every city in North America like this It doesn't matter how many people were happily and safely using the bike infrastructure. The people who make the decisions in city government (the high level staffers and electeds) and more importantly the big donors all drive everywhere. https://twitter.com/HowSenChong/status/1626220959429701632 The Gardiner reduces the commute time of people using it by like 3 minutes, but we have to throw infinite money into this black hole because the people actually making the decisions absolutely feel they're entitled to those 3 minutes.
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The British knew about carbrain in 1964 https://twitter.com/MichaelWarbur17/status/1626531109730234370
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Martian posted:The British knew about carbrain in 1964 amazing how Britain looks exactly the same as it did 50 years ago
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terminal car brain in the comments and from matty g https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1626407763227168768
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Martian posted:The British knew about carbrain in 1964 Some of the places shown in this video are in my neighbourhood and I can tell you that not only have the roads not changed, to the surprise of no one, drivers do the same poo poo today.
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spacemang_spliff posted:terminal car brain in the comments and from matty g Chad: yes
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??? The idea is that we can reduce speeding by changing our infrastructure. Yg continues to be incredibly stupid.
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I've only bothered to learn one leftist policy position, and yet it fails to solve every problem. Very interesting 🤔
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BonHair posted:Yeah, from a Copenhagen cycling extremist perspective, this is suicide. If you need to diagonally cross a street with any sort of car traffic, you do it by crossing first in one direction and then the other. Left turns involve stopping at the opposite corner and waiting for green. Whatever this is needs to fully stop all other traffic while bikes cross, which isn't happening I imagine. in NL there are a few 4-way crossings where bikes all cross at the same time (cars stopped with red lights, of course) but it's not very common mostly because it's a bit chaotic and you end up with bikes everywhere. traffic lights on each separate crossing is more effective and avoids loads of bikes crossing each other (and sometimes there's also signs indicating which route across the junction is fastest, e.g. straight then left or left then straight)
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Martian posted:The British knew about carbrain in 1964 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwPSIb3kt_4 Walt Disney of all people beat them by 14 years.
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What is Matty wrong about here? Hes right that his position on cars is better than the majority of leftists on twitter. Is the worry that it is oppressing people to force them to stop using $100k lifted trucks to kill people?
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"seize the cars of people who don't pay their tickets" is a regressive tax, not a safety measure, and given that this is ygelsias the unstated flip side is unlimited turbo boosts through residential areas for those who can afford it
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Look I think he is onto something, but it just needs to be workshopped a bit to make it less regressive: Seizure of all assets to fund public housing and transit.
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Yes, it's a stupid half measure that is also half a measure more than most self-styled leftists (not here, obviously, but we're all freakish maximalists about cars) support about car elimination, and no worse of a half measure than bike lanes. Is the cause hurt because he is volunteering time to make drivers who are endangering people where he lives and works more likely to receive harassment and fines? I'm not any happier about this than you are but the real embarrassment here are the supposed progressives in the replies calling him a snitch and telling him to mind his business. CopperHound posted:Look I think he is onto something, but it just needs to be workshopped a bit to make it less regressive: Now we're talking, and Matty would never support this, which is why the "just don't let them near leadership" rule exists
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Epic High Five posted:Yes, it's a stupid half measure that is also half a measure more than most self-styled leftists (not here, obviously, but we're all freakish maximalists about cars) support about car elimination, and no worse of a half measure than bike lanes. Is the cause hurt because he is volunteering time to make drivers who are endangering people where he lives and works more likely to receive harassment and fines? I'm not any happier about this than you are but the real embarrassment here are the supposed progressives in the replies calling him a snitch and telling him to mind his business. Basically the issue is that he was snitching on those license plate covers people buy on the idea they block traffic cameras from seeing your plates From here we run into competing agendas. Oppressing car owners? Cool, and good. Supporting traffic cameras, yet another ploy by corporate America to steal money? Bad. Calling the cops, an action that can very much lead to people getting killed if theres minorities involved? Also bad. Imo there's better things worth getting mad over online
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Wasn't expecting my blood pressure to rise so fast on a chill Friday https://twitter.com/mihai_cirstea_/status/1626298177539436544?s=48&t=j7cjsy35e_Lxi1DL2qJefA
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Agean90 posted:Basically the issue is that he was snitching on those license plate covers people buy on the idea they block traffic cameras from seeing your plates Hmm but did you consider that many of those plate covers/expired (temporary) licenses are on cars owned by cops or friends thereof, in which case tattling on them is probably a waste of time oh well.
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Wasn't Matty one of the people who said that donoteat's NYT op-ed really blew their mind? I wonder if his interest in making carbrain assholes mad is to do with that.
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actionjackson posted:who is donoteat the host of "well theres your problem"
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actionjackson posted:who is donoteat https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3870560&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1
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Jon Pod Van Damm posted:C-SPAM The donoteat thread: Urbanism, Unions, and TRAINS loving hell... there's been an urbanism thread here for four years?
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Oh I somehow never noticed that that cities skylines video person was behind well there's your problem
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they destroyed all the coastal promenades in this city to make a new coastal highway for "solving" traffic congestion lmao. just a few more lanes bro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEzgCT24vR0 its 2023 and zero lessons learned from anything ever
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Polo-Rican posted:no way. if anything, the polarization has been made permanent. as of the past few years, the suburb dwellers i know would go the rest of their lives without visiting a city if they could media coverage of the BLM protests of 2020 further convinced suburbanites think every metro is a literal warzone
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cat botherer.....thank you
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