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mastershakeman posted:it's kind of funny that Soloman Thomas busted almost as bad as Mitch Step 1: 10.00 RAS Step 2: ?????? Step 3: Canton
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mastershakeman posted:
Josh Allen broke a lot of brains
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Who can tell me some stuff about Brian Branch? He could possibly be available for the Bucs at 19 and they need a ton of secondary help.
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Mar 8, 2023 20:01
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Dude is the definition of "sure tackler."
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Mar 8, 2023 20:09
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fsif posted:When Allen first broke out the refrain here was that his success was going to trick GMs into drafting toolsy guys that are lovely QBs for the next couple decades. There's been a lot of qbs outside of Allen that had been considered projects with great athletic traits when they were drafted make it recently. Hurts, Lamar, mahomes to a degree. Herbert maybe? A lot of people didn't like the selection due to his college play, even though he was at one time the consensus #1. All way better/more productive college players then Allen and Richardson, but there's more guys you could point to who were thought of as not the finished product who actually did get there recently. As such, your team's gm should totally trade three first rounders to draft Richardson at 1.1
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I'm getting frustrated about people mocking him to the Seahawks at 5, I couldn't imagine teams giving up stuff to draft him.
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joe football posted:There's been a lot of qbs outside of Allen that had been considered projects with great athletic traits when they were drafted make it recently. Hurts, Lamar, mahomes to a degree. Herbert maybe? A lot of people didn't like the selection due to his college play, even though he was at one time the consensus #1. Allen was actively awful in college against G5 competition. He's a loving unicorn
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Sister committed suicide and it really hosed him up Yeah I just don’t think football was ever a real priority for him after that. But he’s stuck around and kept making rosters. Seems like he played a respectable percentage of snaps for the Jets last year
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DeimosRising posted:Yeah I just don’t think football was ever a real priority for him after that. But he’s stuck around and kept making rosters. Seems like he played a respectable percentage of snaps for the Jets last year Yeah he's jumped on doing a lot of advocacy stuff while bouncing around. One of those guys who I feel like doesn't have a high enough profile that he could get a Walter Payton nod. I don't know enough about his work outside the game though and am partial to people trying to do any mental health work so biased.
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Dude is the definition of "sure tackler." I think I heard someone on some podcast say that he's missed **3** tackles in his college career? Something insane like that.
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Is it a missed tackle if you grab a guy's jersey because that's as close as you can get and he runs out of your hand grip?
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joe football posted:There's been a lot of qbs outside of Allen that had been considered projects with great athletic traits when they were drafted make it recently. Hurts, Lamar, mahomes to a degree. Herbert maybe? A lot of people didn't like the selection due to his college play, even though he was at one time the consensus #1. Did you say at one time Allen was the consensus #1 or am I misreading that? Because that is 100% wrong. And the difference between Allen in college and Hurts, Lamar, and Mahomes is that the later three were really good college quarterbacks. I 100% agree with that last sentence.
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joe football posted:There's been a lot of qbs outside of Allen that had been considered projects with great athletic traits when they were drafted make it recently. Hurts, Lamar, mahomes to a degree. Herbert maybe? A lot of people didn't like the selection due to his college play, even though he was at one time the consensus #1. I wonder if there’s anyone out there who wants to take a flyer on Tyler Van Dyke because Herbert demonstrated that Mario Cristobal holds QBs back.
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Cavauro posted:Is it a missed tackle if you grab a guy's jersey because that's as close as you can get and he runs out of your hand grip? No, that sounds Ike you having a stroke
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I'm kind of shocked at the amount of people in this thread that think Richardson completely sucks and couldn't imagine ever drafting him round 1. Upside wins Super Bowls. The right QB with the right coach wins Super Bowls. Feels pretty easy to imagine taking Richardson top 15 if you believe in your coaching staff and think the guy has an outside shot to be a top 3 QB in the league.
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fennesz posted:I'm kind of shocked at the amount of people in this thread that think Richardson completely sucks and couldn't imagine ever drafting him round 1. you're shocked that there are people in the draft thread who have seen him play quarterback?
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fennesz posted:I'm kind of shocked at the amount of people in this thread that think Richardson completely sucks and couldn't imagine ever drafting him round 1. Why would you think he has an outside shot to be a top 3 QB in the league? or more of a shot than Will Levis or Hendon Hooker or anyone else that's not in the Stroud/Young tier?
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fennesz posted:I'm kind of shocked at the amount of people in this thread that think Richardson completely sucks and couldn't imagine ever drafting him round 1. Nah, what wins Super Bowls are good quarterbacks. Athletic =/ good. Thinking you can fix someone with a history of problems at the position when a guy with lesser traits, but film that shows good accuracy and decision making is hubris.
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fennesz posted:I'm kind of shocked at the amount of people in this thread that think Richardson completely sucks and couldn't imagine ever drafting him round 1. 
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I mean that seems like a pointless thing to say, most Coaches think they can do that, and guess how that tends to work out?
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I mean if he reaches his ceiling, it's like best QB ever type stuff. His ceiling is astronomical. Uh, he likely won't tho.
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i think it's fair to be high on richardson in part because he's not 24 and you are confident in yourself and your staff as coaches. not gameplan coaches but player coaches. not "player coach" like a player who coaches, or someone who the players like, but someone who is good at coaching a player. improving a player through coaching. that's something that is a paid position. hell, i don't know!
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wandler20 posted:What the hell ever happened with him? Seemed like he was a sure fire lock to be a solid to great player. A lot of people assumed that the eyeball test and his production in college meant more than him being small and short-armed for the kind of stuff he was doing and it ended up not working nearly as well against NFL athletes.
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fennesz posted:I'm kind of shocked at the amount of people in this thread that think Richardson completely sucks and couldn't imagine ever drafting him round 1. I mean, in the FSU game he threw 11 straight incompletions including simple check downs to his backs. His accuracy is a huge red flag and that's kind of important.
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He's a lottery pick. Young and Stroud are most likely gonna be good but they aren't generational talents. So all it takes is for a team to say they want to buy that lottery ticket for an outside chance of hitting it big rather than playing it safe to draft him over the others.
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Sataere posted:Did you say at one time Allen was the consensus #1 or am I misreading that? Because that is 100% wrong. And the difference between Allen in college and Hurts, Lamar, and Mahomes is that the later three were really good college quarterbacks. Nah Herbert was thought to be #1 after his junior year, went back and had some questionable play that soured people on him a bit. Though just looking at his record and stats on paper it's hard to see in retrospect, but I going into the draft people were definitely questioning him
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joe football posted:Nah Herbert was thought to be #1 after his junior year, went back and had some questionable play that soured people on him a bit. Though just looking at his record and stats on paper it's hard to see in retrospect, but I going into the draft people were definitely questioning him Okay, I thought I was taking crazy pills for a second.
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Dexo posted:I mean if he reaches his ceiling, it's like best QB ever type stuff. Spencer Hall did Richardson, and I guarantee he's watched more of him than most of us have. Even if we don't really go to him for straight football analysis as often as the *waves at everything he does* he knows what he's talking about generally. Won't quote the whole article but the sum up: quote:PROS IN ANTHONY RICHARDSON’S FAVOR AS A POTENTIAL QUARTERBACK, BASED STRICTLY OFF HIS PERFORMANCE IN TWELVE GAMES AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL He also mentions earlier Florida's receiving corps was already bad and then mostly injured as the year went on, which didn't help much. Florida didn't really let him run like they could have, and he probably didn't really want to so he could prove he could pass. Basically the end result is you're betting on your own franchise to be able to develop him if you draft him, which I guess is not surprising and what we're all thinking anyway.
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Jt o Sullivan did one of his 40 minute breakdowns on Richardson. I'll give it a looksie at some point. They're usually pretty good. He turned me around on Herbert when all the talking heads were saying he was bad.
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BlindSite posted:Jt o Sullivan did one of his 40 minute breakdowns on Richardson. I'll give it a looksie at some point. They're usually pretty good. He turned me around on Herbert when all the talking heads were saying he was bad. Sullivan loves Stroud and so do I
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Grittybeard posted:Spencer Hall did Richardson, and I guarantee he's watched more of him than most of us have. Even if we don't really go to him for straight football analysis as often as the *waves at everything he does* he knows what he's talking about generally. Won't quote the whole article but the sum up: He sounds like Ryan Tannehill on steroids
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tarbrush posted:He sounds like Ryan Tannehill on steroids But we're not talking about Levis???? 
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Compensatory picks announced. https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1633953314332348416?s=61&t=5XhQ3IY0TKf9sLs_Mzh2Lw
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I’m sick and disgusted that the Eagles don't have multiple picks and I’m going to cry
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joe football posted:Nah Herbert was thought to be #1 after his junior year, went back and had some questionable play that soured people on him a bit. Though just looking at his record and stats on paper it's hard to see in retrospect, but I going into the draft people were definitely questioning him It’s hard to understate how stupid and lousy that Cristobal offense was. He never took the big breakout step forward that people were expecting and that’s why people kinda turned on him a little. It turns out that he probably could have in a remotely competent offense.
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Adding 3 third rounders is absolutely insane. That's nearly a top 2nd round pick worth of value. Maybe... havent looked at the latest chart in a while
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:It’s hard to understate how stupid and lousy that Cristobal offense was. He never took the big breakout step forward that people were expecting and that’s why people kinda turned on him a little. It turns out that he probably could have in a remotely competent offense. It also came out after the season, and was rumored during the season, that they were heavily limiting any run game from Herbert until the last few games where you saw how effective he was and could have been all year. Losing a 1000-yard receiver in Dillon Mitchell and replacing him with, well, not much didn't help either.
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Amy Pole Her posted:Adding 3 third rounders is absolutely insane. That's nearly a top 2nd round pick worth of value. Maybe... havent looked at the latest chart in a while About the equivalent of pick 59 per the JJ chart. Honestly I'd rather have 3 late 3rds than a late 2nd, depending on who is available I guess. Spreads out the risk nicely.
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