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https://onepiecechapters.com/chapters/5672/one-piece-chapter-1078?&date=16-3-2023-8
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Mar 16, 2023 09:20
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I feel like those early spoiler folks overexaggerated a reveal again.
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Mar 16, 2023 09:34
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Cat Machine posted:https://onepiecechapters.com/chapters/5672/one-piece-chapter-1078?&date=16-3-2023-8 Oh shiiiiit. The delayed reaction from Kaku to being called Usopp, haha!
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Mar 16, 2023 09:42
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York is gonna end up replacing Kuma as the Mariejois taxi serviceSyntheticPolygon posted:I feel like those early spoiler folks overexaggerated a reveal again.
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Mar 16, 2023 09:56
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I feel like those early spoiler folks overexaggerated a reveal again. that's true but we did learn it'll be funny to say every week regardless
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Mar 16, 2023 10:29
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York's luring that Elder to the island that has human cloning technology on it. One possible plan is to force an Elder to step onto the island, clone him, and then brain link with it or something so she can manipulate the WG to become a Tenryuubito.
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Mar 16, 2023 10:48
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White Light posted:Still kills me that this is an actual thing in this series, not just a one-off joke It's not though. The fan-translators took some liberties with that line. Buggy was just sick.
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Mar 16, 2023 11:15
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So York probably told the Elder Stars about how Vegapunk got his big research into void century, right? Think they try to buster call/ancient weapon Elbaf after this? It's where he got the bulk of his insight.
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Mar 16, 2023 14:47
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I feel kinda bad that Luffy respects Usopp so little that he's taken to calling any random dude with a long nose Usopp
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Mar 16, 2023 14:50
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CharlestonJew posted:I feel kinda bad that Luffy respects Usopp so little that he's taken to calling any random dude with a long nose Usopp It's more that he couldn't give less than 2 shits what his name is, so is disrespecting him by calling him one of his crew mates. Kaku such a bottom he basically went "Yes Daddy" instantly, before cottoning on that he'd been insulted
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Mar 16, 2023 14:54
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DeadBonesBrook posted:I think this arc has reached the point where there's too much going on at once, and I'm not really sure if this betrayal storyline is necessary. We're currently juggling the Straw Hats interacting with the Vegapunks, CP 0, Kizaru and the elder, Sentomaru, the Seraphim, Stussy stuff, Sanji's new power-up, all these different backstory revelations regarding Ohara and the ancient kingdom, whatever the deal is with Punk Records, Bonney with Kuma's memories, and the cutaways to Blackbeard/Law/Garp and Shanks/Kidd/Elbaf stuff. There are probably things I forget as well. Infinitum posted:It's more that he couldn't give less than 2 shits what his name is, so is disrespecting him by calling him one of his crew mates. Kaku such a bottom he basically went "Yes Daddy" instantly, before cottoning on that he'd been insulted
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Mar 16, 2023 15:09
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i have a gut feeling that drawing out saturn was the core idea of the plan in some fashion. seems too perfect.
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Mar 16, 2023 15:12
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No Wave posted:Didnt he call him Usopp when they first met? Multiple characters did. Zoro is napping, wakes up when Kaku shows up, immediately goes back to sleep because,"Oh it's just Usopp..." then wakes up a few moments later, goes,"Hey, that's NOT Usopp!" and is ready to fight him, accusing him of impersonating Usopp while Kaku keeps reminding him that he never once said or even implied he was Usopp, and that in fact he doesn't even loving know who Usopp is! It was great 
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Mar 16, 2023 15:18
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So that's Shaka and Pythagoras down, and York is off the team even if she survives the arc. We're losing Vegapunks left, right and centre - I wonder if they are all going to get killed off or not, given that Atlus was picked back up when Oda could have just let her die.
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Mar 16, 2023 15:22
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Jerusalem posted:Multiple characters did. Zoro is napping, wakes up when Kaku shows up, immediately goes back to sleep because,"Oh it's just Usopp..." then wakes up a few moments later, goes,"Hey, that's NOT Usopp!" and is ready to fight him, accusing him of impersonating Usopp while Kaku keeps reminding him that he never once said or even implied he was Usopp, and that in fact he doesn't even loving know who Usopp is! It was great 
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Mar 16, 2023 15:51
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Current Vegapunk Status: 00-Stella: Old Devil Fruit Research Lab, Basement Floor. Imprisoned with the Cipher Pol agents, confronting York. 01-Shaka: Old Devil Fruit Research Lab, Basement Floor. Got shot in the head by York outside of the Stella/CP containment cell, most likely dead. 02-Lilith: Building C, Floor 3. Petrified alongside Usopp (and most of Franky) by S-Snake. 03-Edison: Building A, Floor 3. Out of commission ("half-destroyed" according to Nami or Zeus?) thanks to S-Shark, being held by Nami. 04-Pythagoras: Building C, Floor 3. Just got stomped by S-Snake, presumed dead. 05-Atlas: Building A, Floor 2. Currently fine, grouped with Robin and Chopper, headed to "a lab that was once used and is now sealed off" (probably where Stella/CP are being kept, maybe Kuma's memory room?) 06-York: Idk, probably sleeping/shidding somewhere. Scholtz fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Mar 16, 2023 |
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Mar 16, 2023 15:57
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I feel like those early spoiler folks overexaggerated a reveal again. almost like we’d be fine without being warned are we supposed to believe shaka is dead? atlas was repaired pretty quickly and they routinely upload copies of their memories to a magic brain computer notwithyourheart fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Mar 16, 2023 |
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Mar 16, 2023 16:03
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Who the hell did Bonney de-age?
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Mar 16, 2023 16:09
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notwithyourheart posted:are we supposed to believe shaka is dead? atlas was repaired pretty quickly and they routinely upload copies of their memories to a magic brain computer I'd agree with you but with them presumably being the first model (PUNK-01) and them being killed by another satellite and that satellite saying that they're dead, I'd assume they are.
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Mar 16, 2023 16:13
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No Wave posted:I understand that this is your opinion but everything is connected to the same central thing, York's plan. That's why CP0 is there, that's why Stella is kidnapped, that's why the Seraphim are raging, that's why Saturn is coming, that's why Stussy is here. The plot here works to me because everything has one reason for happening, and that's York, the villain of the arc. If you remove that it's a bunch of stuff happening randomly at a random time. Yea, the only thing not part of York's plan is seemingly the Strawhats being there? I think? York is still a Vegapunk, so planning this all up is not unreasonable.
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Mar 16, 2023 16:13
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They could bring Shaka back if they had the time, but the lab is collapsing around them and it isn't going to survive the incoming Buster Call. It could be written in if Oda really wanted, but I wouldn't count on it personally.
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Mar 16, 2023 16:33
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kdrudy posted:Yea, the only thing not part of York's plan is seemingly the Strawhats being there? I think?
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Mar 16, 2023 16:37
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No Wave posted:Admittedly Bonney is just kind of randomly there, I forgot about her. If I had to cut anything from the arc it would be her (I tend to say this a lot about supernovas) huh? she's tying us to Kuma backstory. without her we don't really have a reason to explore it. feels like it's going to tie into revolutionaries and the greater plot threads
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Mar 16, 2023 17:18
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Too bad Vegapunk never read Full Metal Alchemist. He'd know to never create an artificial lifeform powered by your greed!
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Mar 16, 2023 17:35
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so all this is just prelude to the Egghead Incident that is gonna happen tomorrow  I'm really curious as to what York's actual plan here is. Bodyjacking Saturn? It seems like one of her goals here was to lure an Elder Star to the island. Also, how did she manage to hide her intentions from the daily brain sync that all the Vegapunks do? Has she been using Kuma's ability to purge incriminating memories during that daily sync?
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Mar 16, 2023 18:47
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If an Elder Star does get lured out I’m curious if the gang is going to learn about Imu before or after Laugh Tale (I’m also hoping they rendezvous with Vivi before long and she finally joins the crew for real)
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Mar 16, 2023 19:04
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One kind of interesting thing that got lost in the rest of this chapter is how Franky only got half petrified. What's up with that? He says he got half frozen because he was taken off guard. If he was "on guard" would he be immune to S-Snake's power somehow? I think that's really interesting and somehow suits Franky, but I don't fully understand the reason.SyntheticPolygon posted:I feel like those early spoiler folks overexaggerated a reveal again. I had been thinking about/speculating about the traitor mystery a lot, and I was completely caught off guard by the York reveal. It was great! I'm glad I got to experience that.
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Mar 16, 2023 19:11
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Eiba posted:One kind of interesting thing that got lost in the rest of this chapter is how Franky only got half petrified. What's up with that? He says he got half frozen because he was taken off guard. If he was "on guard" would he be immune to S-Snake's power somehow? I think that's really interesting and somehow suits Franky, but I don't fully understand the reason. Either he had an eye closed or averted, or I like to think he can think about how he's already a pervert/freak/whatever and block it, considering he calls himself that so much. Like how Usopp has negative immunity.
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Eiba posted:One kind of interesting thing that got lost in the rest of this chapter is how Franky only got half petrified. What's up with that? He says he got half frozen because he was taken off guard. If he was "on guard" would he be immune to S-Snake's power somehow? I think that's really interesting and somehow suits Franky, but I don't fully understand the reason. That's because she kicked him. Love-Love Mellow is full-body petrification, Perfume Femur is partial.
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Mar 16, 2023 19:58
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thank godd the traitor isn't stussy, the 10th straw hat
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Regarding latest spoilers... Do we have any reason to believe that York isn't as smart as all of the other Vegapunks, despite being the one that eats and poops for the others? I feel like there is a very real possibility that not only is she greedily seeking a cozy spot as a Celestial Dragon, she also might resent being the Vegapunk stuck in constant "Eat/Crap/Nap" cycles while all the others actually get to utilize their vast intelligence. Besides that, if she IS as smart as any other Vegapunk, then it'd not be unreasonable to expect that York might have accounted for a LOT of potential double-crossing from the World Government. It's possible this is a stretch; I wouldn't put it past her to think her value as a Vegapunk combined with her being the one to rat out the other Vegapunks means she's already bought her ticket. I'm on team Body Swap, though I'd also accept that York thinks she's either already bought her ticket to Mariejois, or that she'll be able to blackmail her way to the top. EDIT: To add to this, I do think that York even possibly knowing about the Void Century means that the World Government has her marked for death no matter what she has done or does, short of Body Swap. i am tim! fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Mar 16, 2023 |
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Mar 16, 2023 22:12
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i am tim! posted:Regarding latest spoilers... Do we have any reason to believe that York isn't as smart as all of the other Vegapunks, despite being the one that eats and poops for the others? I feel like there is a very real possibility that not only is she greedily seeking a cozy spot as a Celestial Dragon, she also might resent being the Vegapunk stuck in constant "Eat/Crap/Nap" cycles while all the others actually get to utilize their vast intelligence.
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Mar 16, 2023 22:18
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I don't know how explicit it'll be made in the text, but I like the implication that there's a part of the original, "whole" Vegapunk that just wants to give up on pursuing the truth and fighting for moral causes so he can live in comfort among the supremacist class. He's always loomed as an ethically messy figure, and his personified ideals violently clashing would represent that in a fun way.
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One thing I appreciated about this chapter was how it clarified what the WG know about Vegapunk's activities, and why such a huge force was already enroute and/or being mobilised. Reading between the lines, it seems like Saturn will be very hands-on during the operation. He's not just there to issue orders to the seraphim & pacifista, his primary directive will be to mitigate the spread of inconvenient truths by any means necessary - including the annihilation of friendly troops and agents who are exposed to that knowledge. It wouldn't surprise me if Lucci, Kaku and Stussy have already been written off as compromised and expelled from Cipher Pol due to how long they've been in sustained contact with the enemy. Especially since they've gone radio silent too. About York's plan... I don't think the personality surgery is particularly likely. I doubt they could convincingly pass as Saturn for more than a day or two, plus why would they want to be an old man again... unless Saturn is immortal I guess? I figure York abducted the other CP agents to use as leverage with the WG and be taken more seriously, possibly also thinking they could be used as bargaining chips in negotiations. There's also a chance York's using the Shadow-Shadow ability and has harvested their shadows, which could be interesting. Other things from this chapter... - I'm curious where S-Hawk and S-Snake are heading next. We have two teams not already in combat - Team Stussy and Team Atlas. There's a chance S-Snake is going to reinforce S-Shark, but unless Sanji's 'exoskeleton' protects him from petrification I can't see that ending well. - Presumably Caribou is still around. I wonder if he could successfully pull a seraph into his swamp dimension? - I'm feeling pessimistic about all the civilians successfully escaping. The approaching/nearby Marine forces will probably have kill-on-sight orders for any ship spotted heading away from the vicinity of Egghead.
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Ah! I completely misremembered, I thought Usopp was busy off getting beaten up by the Frankie Family at that point. Well I guess there's nothing for it but to read the entirety of Water 7 and Enies Lobby again! Darn it.
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Jerusalem posted:Ah! I completely misremembered, I thought Usopp was busy off getting beaten up by the Frankie Family at that point. Well I guess there's nothing for it but to read the entirety of Water 7 and Enies Lobby again! Darn it. Oh no that also happens lol, Kaku getting on the Merry to inspect it and Zoro thinks it's Usopp for a second.
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Mar 17, 2023 01:23
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This end game poo poo is hitting perfectly. The mystery felt a little forced, but it's wild to take a step back and consider how many pieces Oda is moving towards the last three islands here before the climax. No clue how it's gonna resolve, but this is already a banger of an arc. Hoping we get a 3-4 chapter reprieve in Eblaf before the final push, and that Vegapunk manages to survive to that point but the current velocity suggests he's gonna be a causality. Oda's perfect memory is a loving sight to behold. God drat. The Seraphim's are overall a nice touch to allow the Straw Hats to chump previous opponents (CP9) while still having some threat that blocks them from just straight up winning. Have been a little skeptical of them on introduction, but digging the execution. CatstropheWaitress fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Mar 17, 2023 |
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Mar 17, 2023 05:12
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CatstropheWaitress posted:Oda's perfect memory is a loving sight to behold. God drat. I believe Oda's admitted he reads fan wikis to remember stuff like that
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