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yeah if kaido didnt actually want the thrill of a real fight luffy would have lost instantly somewhat ironic that going up against kaido was the best thing luffy could have done
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people are getting their rear end kicked or captured all over the place. we really are in end game territory we also don't know what Shanks wanted when he showed up to chat with the Elder Stars. like what's his actual endgame rn. he's tailing Blackbeard so he'll get caught up with Garp and the Revolutionaries. tho he's never been shown to be on either of their sides
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Mar 22, 2023 18:22
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Luffy used the opportunity fighting Kaido to grow and get Gear 5, which put him on an even playing field. Kidd and Law just kind of... kept plugging away at Big Mom? As a duo. Not really equivalent. Luffy had help, but it was mostly just stalling while he recovered.
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Mar 22, 2023 18:26
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ouch that dorry and broggy hit is brutal
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Mar 22, 2023 18:39
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First Blackbeard traveled to the Calm Belt to attack Amazon Lily, then he zoomed across the world to head off Law. Now he's chilling by Egghead. He's really hauling rear end. I guess rafts are the superior craft after all
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Mar 22, 2023 18:40
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I get the feeling like Oda really liked Kidd from a design/character standpoint but just couldn't figure out on how to use him. Like, his backstory gets explained only in supplemental material, gets chumped off panel by Kaido and isn't seen again for hundreds of chapters, his big shining moment taking down an Emporer has to be shared with Law, and then is chumped again almost immediately after to just to show how incredibly top tier Shanks. Compare that to say Law, who the manga slowed to a stop several times to show how cool/powerful he is, gave him a long in depth backstory with the greatest flashback character of all time. Hell I feel like even secondary Supernovas like Bege and Drake got to exit the story with more dignity. RIP to you Kidd. I knew this was inevitable, but I was starting to come around to you.
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i think kidd will stick around and have a Moment, but the law/kidd thing is a narrative excuse to get blackbeard and shanks all of the poneglyphs they need
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Rich Uncle Chet posted:I get the feeling like Oda really liked Kidd from a design/character standpoint but just couldn't figure out on how to use him. Like, his backstory gets explained only in supplemental material, gets chumped off panel by Kaido and isn't seen again for hundreds of chapters, his big shining moment taking down an Emporer has to be shared with Law, and then is chumped again almost immediately after to just to show how incredibly top tier Shanks.
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Mar 22, 2023 18:49
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Yo, a surprise kind-of-okay early speed scan? Let's gooo. Oh gently caress, Blackbeard??? Makes sense that Shanks can use advanced Kenbunshoku, then realizes Kid is not loving around and immediately neutralizes him. He cares about his crew and his allies. Then the follow-up combo attack from Dorry and Broggy, holy poo poo!  BREAK??? NOOOOO
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Mar 22, 2023 18:52
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Kid hosed up and immediately went for his big gun forcing Shanks to immediately go and crush him due to the massive risk he posed to his allies/Eblaf itself.
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Mar 22, 2023 18:55
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hey at least the attack Kid *almost* did seemed pretty strong. A few crumbs for the kid fans
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Trying to remember if this was the case but can't find the chapter, were Kid's and Law's bounties artificially inflated to make Luffy seem less of a big deal in light of his Mythical Zoan/actions in Wano? If so then yeah the pair were super of our their leagues trying to 1-on-1 Emperors, even before you consider it taking like 20+ people to take down Kaido and Big Mom.
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Mar 22, 2023 19:01
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The first thing we ever learn about Kidd is that his bounty was as high as it was at the time because he had no qualms about hurting civilians - guess we know how that turned out for him. Blooming Brilliant posted:Trying to remember if this was the case but can't find the chapter, were Kid's and Law's bounties artificially inflated to make Luffy seem less of a big deal in light of his Mythical Zoan/actions in Wano? I feel like every time people mistake Bounties for Power Levels, Oda should put out another chapter with Buggy. Bleck fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Mar 22, 2023 |
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Bleck posted:I feel like every time people mistake Bounties for Power Levels, Oda should put out another chapter with Buggy. Buggy should have defeated Kidd
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Holy poo poo, Blackbeard at Egghead!? Random prediction based on nothing- Blackbeard gets Lilith to translate poneglyphs for him, Shanks gets Saul, Law escapes with Pudding, and of course the Strawhats have Nico Robin. Kidd appears to be out of the running at this point. Not sure how Buggy will end up at Raftel. I know I was saying before that narratively I can't see how Kidd doesn't get some sort of win here but... this actually makes perfect narrative sense now that it's happened. The key part is Blackbeard showing up at Egghead. Luffy and Kidd are shown to be rivals on generally the same level. Kidd had a higher bounty in Sabaody, and even though he needed help he also took out an Emperor at Wano. And he got absolutely destroyed by Shanks. Being able to barely eke out a win against an Emperor is not the same as being on an Emperor's level. That's what this chapter was saying in gruesome two page spreads of destruction. And this chapter is also saying the last Emperor has shown up where Luffy is. It's a perfect way of building tension. If Shanks did this to Kidd, what is Blackbeard going do? I mean, he'll probably kill Kizaru and kidnap Saturn. I don't imagine this is the last we've seen of Kidd, but this is probably him out of the running for the race to Laugh Tale. Starsfan posted:I'm more going off of this chapter where she apparently claims that the World Government betrayed her which appears on surface level to contradict the text from the previous chapter, but on reflection it could be a situation where she feels like she was betrayed because of delusional assumptions she made over how events would transpire and not some sort of formal agreement she had with them. If this betrayal idea really came from the early spoilers it just emphasizes what a good idea it is to keep them out of this thread so we rarely have to deal with this kind of nonsense.
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Bleck posted:I feel like every time people mistake Bounties for Power Levels, Oda should put out another chapter with Buggy. Was just asking if this was said in a specific chapter or if I was miss-remembering, aware about bounties don't equal power levels, more Buggy content is always appreciated however 
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Mar 22, 2023 19:18
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We need CP0 to measure everyone's doriki again during this arc. You know for the sake of shitposting.
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Mar 22, 2023 19:28
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I dont know why but I'm getting a hunch it's Kuzan on that Blackbeard ship
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Eiba posted:Random prediction based on nothing- Blackbeard gets Lilith to translate poneglyphs for him
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Pretty funny that Urouge is the one Supernova that hasn't appeared at all in the last like 6 or 7 years and he hadn't done anything even before then. Everyone else had a pretty good run, and Bonney's getting her time in.
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Mar 22, 2023 20:49
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Wait a minute is the Egghead Incident going to be Blackbeard kidnapping an Elder Star?!
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Can Of Worms posted:York feels like a better match given *waves hands* everything. I wonder if he's even going to end up snagging a seraphim... There's a bunch of cool Vegapunks who aren't dead yet, and I feel like if Lilith is going to be relevant to the story going forward, she'd be into the way Blackbeard does things. Can Of Worms posted:Wait a minute is the Egghead Incident going to be Blackbeard kidnapping an Elder Star?!
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It occurs to me that if this is a repeat of Ohara then the Blackbeard ship might be Kuzan/Aokiji. Except this time he’ll be helping people escape and fighting the marines. Imagine Aokiji vs Kizaru
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rip kid we somewhat knew ye
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This does kind of beg the question why doesnt imu just glass this place. And I think there is an actual answer we just dont know what it is.
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There's probably something on the island that he needs to still exist.
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Waffleman_ posted:There's probably something on the island that he needs to still exist. It's also probably one thing to wipe egghead & vegapunk from everything, as opposed to Random Island that sabo was on. At least with an assassination you can spin it in all kinds of different ways.
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Supremezero posted:Luffy used the opportunity fighting Kaido to grow and get Gear 5, which put him on an even playing field. Kidd and Law just kind of... kept plugging away at Big Mom? As a duo. Not really equivalent. Luffy had help, but it was mostly just stalling while he recovered. Nah, Law Awakened his fruit and came up with new attacks during his fight.
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Waffleman_ posted:There's probably something on the island that he needs to still exist. im also thinking there may be some sort of time lag between Imu glassing poo poo. He did just destroy another island the day before all this
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Law's fruit came pre-awakened out of the box, I won't really believe otherwise.
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Waffleman_ posted:There's probably something on the island that he needs to still exist. Whatever they use to make Green Blood for the Seraphim. Egghead is full of useful tech that the WG can use to keep their dominance, no way they will just level it before plundering the place.
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Yeah, I was gonna say, all the seraphim are there! They just violently retired all the Warlords solely because they had a replacement system for when they need monstrously powerful individuals. And presumably they'll need to make more eventually. All that is to say, reducing Egghead to ash is probably a last resort. But I imagine Imu has his finger on the trigger in the worst case.
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TCB Version is out https://onepiecechapters.com/chapters/5679/one-piece-chapter-1079
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It would be hype as poo poo if they can somehow counter or block the doom ray. Easy way to reveal it too.
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Blooming Brilliant posted:Trying to remember if this was the case but can't find the chapter, were Kid's and Law's bounties artificially inflated to make Luffy seem less of a big deal in light of his Mythical Zoan/actions in Wano? That was a common theory among the fan community since "why would luffy, who was declared Yonkou and has the Nika Devil Fruit, be on the same tier as Law and Kidd?" But nothing was ever confirmed in the story or by Oda with regards to this
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RuBisCO posted:Monday/Tuesday spoilers aren't worth talking about because they are often misleading or outright wrong. And now with speedscans we might as well wait til Wednesday so we can at least have a couple days of real chapter talk (which I enjoy). Yeah, talking about text-only spoilers is a sucker's game since the people signal boosting them always make them sound bigger than they are
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Dorry and Brogy delivering that kill blow is my favourite thing about this. Feels like a total "end of innocence" type chapter that is starting to bring us back to the Shanks character that was hinted at in Chapter 1. I love it.
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Rereading it and Shanks is goddamn merciless lol. Not a single word said to Kidd or his crew, he just crushed them for their foolish attempt on his friends' lives
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Mar 22, 2023 22:58
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Shanks is big into "gently caress around and find out." Kid hosed around, he found out.
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Didn't Kidd try to get an alliance together to take on Shanks before they turned traitor on him?
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