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CharlestonJew posted:the only part that really confuses me now is what the hell mina was talking about with her speech Something about everyone consciously/subconsciously fearing their own weakness and that is why people form groups... I don't know about that. I think I form groups with people whom I share a common interest or are fun to engage with. I am unsure about conscious/unconscious fear of my own "weakness".
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I just remembered that Brainwashing is able to activate Deku's mindspace in strange ways, so if Shinso ends up being the plot device that saves Shigaraki from AFO, I'm going to lose it.
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Mar 27, 2023 01:54
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Justice for my boy, at last.
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oh jay posted:I just remembered that Brainwashing is able to activate Deku's mindspace in strange ways, so if Shinso ends up being the plot device that saves Shigaraki from AFO, I'm going to lose it. Same but like positively. Shigaraki breaking free because AFO can't help but monologue would be incredibly funny and good.
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Mar 27, 2023 17:11
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Didn't Shiggy already break free of AFO by remembering his origin story or something ridiculous like that?
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Mar 27, 2023 23:46
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I feel like they keep flopping between brand new person, AFO in control of Shiggy, and Shiggy overpowering AFO. It's going to pivot at least 2 more times before the end imo.
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Mar 28, 2023 00:04
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It's AFO trying to take control of Shiggy, claiming it's a brand new person, and being wrong about both, because Shiggy doesn't want to get subsumed into AFO and sometimes can even take back some control. That's not flopping, the writing is consistent with itself.
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Mar 28, 2023 00:12
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"Brand new person" was a concept that existed for a one panel explanation why this ability that should instantly gently caress up his day didn't. Once that passed and another female hero was bodied, it went away.
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Kyte posted:sometimes can even take back some control That's what I mean by flopping. When the narrative needs it, AFO will smash someone, mocking them in a distinctly AFO way. Then the next chapter Tomura/Tenko will do something/refuse to do something, because the plot demands it. It is consistent with the explanations we've been given, but it still sucks and is boring.
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Mar 28, 2023 01:19
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I wonder what Gigantomachia's brainspace is like...
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Mar 28, 2023 01:27
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How can Shinso Brainwash someone with no brain? Something's fishy here...
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Mar 28, 2023 01:30
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Mulva posted:"Brand new person" was a concept that existed for a one panel explanation why this ability that should instantly gently caress up his day didn't. Once that passed and another female hero was bodied, it went away. The "maybe the fusion is actually a new person amalgamated out of both of them" was a thing for the entire Stars and Stripes arc, but was pretty unceremoniously dropped the moment it was over instead of alternating "it's AFO/it's Shigaraki" control battles.
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Kanos posted:The "maybe the fusion is actually a new person amalgamated out of both of them" was a thing for the entire Stars and Stripes arc, but was pretty unceremoniously dropped the moment it was over instead of alternating "it's AFO/it's Shigaraki" control battles. you just said the same thing the other guy did just in a slightly different way
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I feel like I must've missed something cause I def remember Mina being there for Gigantomachia and being sad Midnight died but I don't remember her having this character arc after that.
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CharlestonJew posted:you just said the same thing the other guy did just in a slightly different way It wasn't a one panel thing, the manga ran with it for a fair while, certainly long enough for someone to think it was actually a thing instead of a pump and dump.
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https://onepiecechapters.com/chapters/5826/my-hero-academia-chapter-384?&date=31-3-2023-10
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Scholtz posted:https://onepiecechapters.com/chapters/5826/my-hero-academia-chapter-384?&date=31-3-2023-10 I liked the little cameo from some of the movie characters at the end there.
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Mar 31, 2023 15:49
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Got a good laugh at the shadowy figure of the President of the United States.
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Mar 31, 2023 15:51
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Electric Phantasm posted:Got a good laugh at the shadowy figure of the President of the United States. I assume that it's for dramatic effect, but I like to think that's apart of his quirk and he just looks like that all the time.
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Mar 31, 2023 15:55
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Deus ex Machia. So much story agency is tied up in AfO they had to have him talk no jutsu Machia into joining the heroes for them.
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Rhonne posted:I assume that it's for dramatic effect, but I like to think that's apart of his quirk and he just looks like that all the time. This must be that “Dark Brandon” I’ve been hearing about.
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Mar 31, 2023 18:35
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Rhonne posted:I assume that it's for dramatic effect, but I like to think that's apart of his quirk and he just looks like that all the time. The power of their quirk「Shadow President」
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Mar 31, 2023 18:58
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I can't believe it, what an utter asspull. Jentle???
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I’m very confused. is one of these characters Gentle in disguise? Did these other characters steal his youtube password?
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Mar 31, 2023 22:05
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In terms of minor characters coming back for their moment, two different reporters from like a single panel suddenly showing up to declare they've been inspired to not be tabloid media caricatures any more is a weird one.
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i really don't understand horikoshi's fixation on the news and social media in this final stretch. like i know it's come up throughout the comic before but it never really coalesced into an actual theme or storyline so i just don't really get how i'm supposed to feel about this payoff. also obviously there's a cultural context issue here but yeesh i have zero appetite for this sort of surface level "fake news/clickbait bad, real journalism good" poo poo also if you're really going to insist on some nonsense "gigantomachia fighting against AFO of his own volition now because reasons" thing, why not just tie that to mina's complete nonsense speech last chapter. these abbreviated, zero-context character beats could at least have been used to reinforce each other. Valentin fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Mar 31, 2023 |
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I think it's intended to be a callback to All Might's debut. Early on, there was a lot of focus on All Might's "I AM HERE" video and how it established him as a legend; I think the intent here is that this is supposed to everyone's "I AM HERE" moment.
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Mar 31, 2023 22:27
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What if Horikoshi was actually Neil Breen? That'd explain some stuff
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Valentin posted:i really don't understand horikoshi's fixation on the news and social media in this final stretch. Hmm why would a manga author make "social media can really hurt people's feelings, y'know" a plot point?
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I mean Deku's inspiring act was watching All Might's video in the first place, it's just a part of the world and storytelling, hell "The media reported/covered up/did this" is like... constant. And it's not even like that here, again Western Comics are a huge inspiration, would anyone like to recall what Clark Kent's profession is? What did Peter Parker take pictures for JJJ for?
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Onmi posted:What did Peter Parker take pictures for JJJ for? Rent money, I imagine.
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PringleCreamEgg posted:I’m very confused. is one of these characters Gentle in disguise? Did these other characters steal his youtube password?
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Nessus posted:My understanding: La Brava was always running Gentle's Youtube channel and is using it as the vessel for the livestreaming here. Even if he goes back to prison, Gentle is going to have the most views... ever. 20,000 views for the fate of Japan seems kinda low.
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:20,000 views for the fate of Japan seems kinda low. Maybe there's just less people overall thanks to AFO's reign
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:20,000 views for the fate of Japan seems kinda low. The jump from 7k to 20k in a single panel, coupled with the speed lines, probably means it was rapidly gaining views
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No, but seriously, for all the asspull and "Oh my god these one-shot reporters are sooo important." or whatever... no Media and the impact it has on society and coverage of the hero world is something built into the series from the first chapter, nearly every arc concludes by talking about the societal impact in the media of various heroes and the various events that happen, several of the key driving factors of the series are youtube videos from All Might's debut to Stain's speech, the depiction of impactful events, of hey we need to cover up how these teenagers did a thing, hey we need to stop comparing Endeavour to All Might because it doesn't foster a healthy society mentality, how the government will pretend poo poo isn't happening and try to control the media narrative. You can complain that like "Oh these reporters we saw once I can't believe they're coming back now," But like... there's a reason they kept going on about the public perception of heroes and the branding and media and it wasn't just a critique on heroism as a job and popularity contest, but also a very realistic showcase of how important that stuff is and was to public perception and public safety. Endeavour struggled because he formulated a bad image, All Might succeeded because he formulated a positive one, Stain is responsible for half of the major villains in this series because of a scathing critique, one which Shigaraki hijacked for his own message. The Sports Festival was entirely about the public perception of up-and-coming heroes, Deku a reputation for blowing himself up, which has directly impacted his presentation to the public throughout the series. All the complaints you can have, feeling this is rushed, not liking it are irrelevant because no this is in the series DNA, it has not been subtle.
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Onmi posted:You can complain that like "Oh these reporters we saw once I can't believe they're coming back now," But like... there's a reason they kept going on about the public perception of heroes and the branding and media and it wasn't just a critique on heroism as a job and popularity contest, but also a very realistic showcase of how important that stuff is and was to public perception and public safety. Endeavour struggled because he formulated a bad image, All Might succeeded because he formulated a positive one, Stain is responsible for half of the major villains in this series because of a scathing critique, one which Shigaraki hijacked for his own message. The Sports Festival was entirely about the public perception of up-and-coming heroes, Deku a reputation for blowing himself up, which has directly impacted his presentation to the public throughout the series. I won't disagree that media's been in the series since day 1 but this interpretation doesn't make a ton of sense to me. Like I don't think those examples are really accurate (Endeavor is actually really good at controlling his media presence, that's why no one in the media hassles him about his dead kid and domestic abuse, he's literally #1 in a giant national popularity contest, and a lot of his PR issues are the unavoidable issue of not being as strong as All Might; whether or not All Might can be said to have meaningfully "succeeded" and whether having a singular Symbol of Peace with a rocking media campaign was good is a core question of the manga, and the true core of his mystique was always being the dude who beat all comers, which had nothing to do with media skills; Stain is terrible at messaging and when the media spreads his police interviews, the net result is the rise of the League of Villains, which he hates; Deku has basically no meaningful public reputation until post-war arc). Media's been in MHA since day 1, sure. But it's not something any characters whose arcs we care about interact with (in a way that this chapter pays off); media in MHA is basically beholden to AFO and ReDestro and the hero committee (sort of at random based on who's more important at the time to the story), and after that they chase clicks. So to come in at the end, with no intervention from any characters we actually care about, and have journalists suddenly go "rather than bad journalism, I'm gonna do good journalism" isn't really meaningful, because their behavior has always been fundamentally arbitrary, and nothing makes this individual change particularly meaningful. And on top of that, it's actually generating a lot of views and is clearly a subject in high demand, so it's not out of step with their previous behavior in any real way! And on top of that, it's not like the MHA media's issue was like...not showing the fights lol. The whole problem with Stain, per Gran Torino, is that they too faithfully and directly shared his message. EVERYONE saw All Might's last fight. The problems as shown go waaaaay deeper than whether or not they're putting Deku on the live feeds, which again, they were pretty much already doing. It's just kind of a nothing bit. e: frankly I just do not think horikoshi has the chops to say much of anything meaningful about media and public relations. like, take reporter lady who got mad at endeavor. her crime is, what, getting mad at endeavor because her mom was wounded in gigantomachia's rampage and showing insufficient deference to heroes at the press conference, right after dabi revealed that endeavor is an abuser and hawks is a black ops guy? and now she's fixing that by...getting footage of Deku? it's just nothing. Valentin fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Apr 1, 2023 |
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