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Inspector Hound posted:Solar panel think so, i think they spotted it first then started recording... 
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Apr 6, 2023 15:19
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i want 2 believe
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Apr 6, 2023 15:30
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helta posted:think so, i think they spotted it first then started recording...   
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Apr 6, 2023 15:31
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i am harry posted:consciousness persists past the death of a body, and thus the life lived by that body is totally meaningless and infinitely small conclusion does not follow from premise. perhaps from the perspective of the small, limited, mortal conscious mind that mind's existence appears meaningless in the face of god and the infinite, but you can draw a bit of increased perspective (even though your conception will be necessarily woefully unequipped) if you ask what this consciousness persists within, as it clearly isn't this mundane reality. if you start from this premise, your conclusions become radically different. surprise surprise, the conclusions drawn by people having near death experiences, especially those that have a near brush with the infinite, have a different conception of what you're calling meaningless.
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Apr 6, 2023 15:32
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i am harry posted:either consciousness persists past the death of a body, and thus the life lived by that body is totally meaningless and infinitely small Consciousness survives bodily death, but it doesn't follow that an incarnated life is "totally meaningless".
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Apr 6, 2023 15:32
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Beaten by seconds! drat you, Hooplah!
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Apr 6, 2023 15:33
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identified object... not a ufo
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Apr 6, 2023 15:38
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I've found that the most interesting art I make comes when I give myself artificial limitations on my methods Unlimited options can paralyze you, you need constraints to fight against to really push yourself
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Apr 6, 2023 15:39
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Both are opposite ends on the spectrum of immeasurable beauty I’m not impressed
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Apr 6, 2023 15:45
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i am harry posted:I’m not impressed Well you either rejoin an unimaginable infinity or nothing happens. Or maybe endless torture though that one seems a bit silly.
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Apr 6, 2023 15:46
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Was kindergarten pointless just because it only lasted a year?
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Apr 6, 2023 15:47
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Apr 6, 2023 15:48
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SKY
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Apr 6, 2023 16:22
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nah 
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Apr 6, 2023 16:22
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TRASH
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Apr 6, 2023 16:22
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this is a place full of beauty you say, while literally countless life forms are eaten alive. I reject that.
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Apr 6, 2023 16:27
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i am harry posted:this is a place full of beauty you say, while literally countless life forms are eaten alive. I reject that. if death comes so cheap then the same goes for life
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Apr 6, 2023 16:30
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Existence is awesome in the classical sense And beautiful things can also be terrifying
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Apr 6, 2023 16:31
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Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:there's a pretty good 50s sf story which iirc has the word "microcosmic" in the title about a scientist who kicks off a petri dish world and is horrified when things get real. like a proto-sand kings, if you remember that story by george rr martin not from the 50’s but I think Greg Bear’s Blood Music used this same concept except the main character injects the stuff into his bloodstream and the little petri dish organisms get exponentially intelligent and things get wild
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Apr 6, 2023 16:31
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:I've found that the most interesting art I make comes when I give myself artificial limitations on my methods This is one of the reasons why I enjoy working with pixel art. Constraints can be wonderful conduits for creativity.
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Apr 6, 2023 16:33
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Apr 6, 2023 16:37
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i am harry posted:this is a place full of beauty you say, while literally countless life forms are eaten alive. I reject that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym4Rpd72tq8
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Apr 6, 2023 16:48
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Also, I'm not terribly thrilled to be the one to ask this as I really don't wish to draw undue attention to myself, but am I really the only person in this thread who has had an NDE? I've really been hoping that someone else would come forward so that I could chime in, but I have a feeling that's not going to happen. During the summer of 1993 I fell off of my bike while not wearing a helmet and sustained a Grade 3 concussion (I was 16 at the time). I believe that I turned too sharply in a cul-de-sac (retrograde amnesia from this has made me less than 100% certain). What I do remember, though, is that from the time that I was struck unconscious, to the time that I came to, that I was clearly aware of what had happened and that I was no longer on the proper plane of existence (I fell off the bike and was embarrassed that I had ended up "here" too soon, wherever "here" was). I don't remember seeing as much as feeling. No great light, no relatives, nothing of the sort (granted, I was young and had very few relatives who had passed on at the time). It was an immediate transferal of consciousness to a larger form of awareness. I was aware of others who were not myself, and asked if I were dead, disappointed that I'd messed up so soon. I was told no, that I wasn't dead, and that I needed to go back. I came to in the street, grit and asphalt in my mouth, a huge scratch on my glasses, and was confused when I touched my head and my fingers came back bloody. I used to be an atheist, but I cannot deny the experiences that I've had and continue to have, and question still that which happens to me. Enough about me, though. Back to birds.
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Apr 6, 2023 17:04
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Lackey posted:Also, I'm not terribly thrilled to be the one to ask this as I really don't wish to draw undue attention to myself, but am I really the only person in this thread who has had an NDE? I've really been hoping that someone else would come forward so that I could chime in, but I have a feeling that's not going to happen. theres a shitload of nde chat itt i think perry mason jar is ya boi on that one
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Apr 6, 2023 17:08
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i am harry posted:either consciousness persists past the death of a body, and thus the life lived by that body is totally meaningless and infinitely small Why does anything need "a point"?
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Apr 6, 2023 17:09
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There's one other NDE goon here. Thanks for sharing! Edit: not me, I've never had one. Someone else shared in the thread, on mobile and too lazy to search for whom sorry. I know one person who's had one, personally. I just know a lot about them. Perry Mason Jar has issued a correction as of 17:12 on Apr 6, 2023 |
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Apr 6, 2023 17:09
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I want to say that endocriminologist had an NDE (though I don't think they've talked too much about it) and I'm pretty sure someone else chimed in to say they did as well, but I can't remember who. Regardless, thanks for piping up!! I'm always super-stoked to hear directly from people who've had one. What was your impression of those "others"? And when you say "larger form of awareness", do you mean that your state of consciousness had changed? Many NDErs report being able to think much more quickly/clearly, being aware of much more than they usually are, stuff like that. Would any of that apply?
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Apr 6, 2023 17:10
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Oh yeah if you haven't submitted to nderf.org please do so! If you have, please share it here. The questionnaire is great
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Apr 6, 2023 17:13
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Sometimes I think I have a vague memory of a story my mom told me about me talking about what it was like before I was born. But it's like an echo of an echo of a thought so it could be entirely apocryphal Never had an NDE though, but they sound neat.
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Apr 6, 2023 17:13
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Closest I've had to NDEs are one transcendent experience brought about through intense suffering and prayer, and three hypnopompic OBEs.
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Apr 6, 2023 17:18
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Barry Foster posted:I want to say that endocriminologist had an NDE (though I don't think they've talked too much about it) and I'm pretty sure someone else chimed in to say they did as well, but I can't remember who. It was an immediate transferal of my own being/consciousness and a sense of remembering some kind of general purpose ("here" felt familiar, and it was like I'd forgotten was "here" was until I'd been "there" again). I was me, with all of my personal thoughts and ego, it seems, but I just "knew" that there were others who were not me with me. A feeling of spatial presence? It's difficult to put into terms things which are largely non-physical and entirely in my head, so to speak.
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Apr 6, 2023 17:20
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I had a dream that was pretty NDE-like in content and made a concrete prediction (that I will die age 86) and a more diffuse statement about a missing memory "they" removed for my own good (something to do with a "house" or "residence"). It had a timbre and quality extremely different to any other dream I've had before or since. But I think it was still just a dream. I was in and out of hospital with asthma quite a lot in my first few years (several times it was apparently pretty touch and go) and also nearly drowned age two or so. I have no clear memories of any of those events/anything NDE-like about them, except for...I dunno, a feeling that I sometimes get that feels very old and very familiar that I can't quite place but reminds me of being very young, and being very safe. It's a very nice feeling. And left to my own devices, I'm definitely the most sensitive and weird member of my family, with by far the most esoteric interests. I used to have a lot of pretty spiritual feelings before the age of 14 or so, and I'm starting to rediscover my inner woomonger after finally starting to recover from the long hangover of being an Extremely Angry Early Noughties Male Internet Teenage Atheist. Then again I'm also the only left hander in my family so maybe it's just that lol Lackey posted:It was an immediate transferal of my own being/consciousness and a sense of remembering some kind of general purpose ("here" felt familiar, and it was like I'd forgotten was "here" was until I'd been "there" again). I was me, with all of my personal thoughts and ego, it seems, but I just "knew" that there were others who were not me with me. A feeling of spatial presence? It's difficult to put into terms things which are largely non-physical and entirely in my head, so to speak. Fascinating! Thanks very much 
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Apr 6, 2023 17:25
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Lackey posted:Also, I'm not terribly thrilled to be the one to ask this as I really don't wish to draw undue attention to myself, but am I really the only person in this thread who has had an NDE? I've really been hoping that someone else would come forward so that I could chime in, but I have a feeling that's not going to happen. Wild, thanks for sharing.
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Apr 6, 2023 17:25
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I've read a lot of woo-folk have had near-drowning experiences. I definitely did, a very traumatic one at a water park when I was really small I'm also left handed. So maybe there's something to it or maybe a lot of folks just can't swim In fact, Foster, I mirror you in a lot of ways it seems
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Apr 6, 2023 17:28
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Oh yeah if you haven't submitted to nderf.org please do so! If you have, please share it here. The questionnaire is great Thank you so much for this. A lot of my being terrified of talking about it is the immense dismissal of these experiences in general from others and not wanting someone to judge me as being crazy; I know full well what I'm saying is just absolutely out there, but it felt like the right time to finally discuss it here. And thank you, thread. I've been wanting to talk about this for such a long time, but have been too timid.
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Apr 6, 2023 17:34
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I had one of those! I was pretty young but I went through the full process of drowning and ended up, finally, at the bottom of a pool. I have some OBE memories about it but I feel like those are confabulated dreams I had after the event. Not entirely sure. I do remember that after the panic of the drowning process fully tired me, and I'd taken in too much water, I finally surrendered and felt remarkably at peace. To be fair, this has a pretty base physical component because, yeah, oxygen deprivation -> feelings of dream-like bliss is a straight line (as children who've discovered "The Choking Game" and BDSM enthusiasts can attest). Perry Mason Jar has issued a correction as of 17:52 on Apr 6, 2023 |
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Apr 6, 2023 17:38
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Lackey posted:Thank you so much for this. A lot of my being terrified of talking about it is the immense dismissal of these experiences in general from others and not wanting someone to judge me as being crazy; I know full well what I'm saying is just absolutely out there, but it felt like the right time to finally discuss it here. Well I think you've come to the right thread 
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Apr 6, 2023 17:38
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Lackey posted:Thank you so much for this. A lot of my being terrified of talking about it is the immense dismissal of these experiences in general from others and not wanting someone to judge me as being crazy; I know full well what I'm saying is just absolutely out there, but it felt like the right time to finally discuss it here. thing of it is, whether it was "real" or not in any objective sense, it was "real" to you, and what ultimately matters is the meaning you draw from it and apply to your life. This is why I never fell in for the nu Atheist thing (although as a reformed fundie I did giggle the first time I read Dawkins saying what he did--nobody had ever been so aggro anti religion it was novel to me). I was raised on Gould's Twin Magisteria where science and religion and philosophy have their fairly discrete areas of questions that can be answered. This clearly falls into the latter.
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Apr 6, 2023 17:38
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i am harry posted:this is a place full of beauty you say, while literally countless life forms are eaten alive. I reject that. I know exactly what you mean. I try to remember that it's not the anaconda's fault it has to squeeze stuff to death and then swallow it whole, or a decision made by the northern lights to look like they do. The beauty is quiet and mysterious: why does a tree look like lightning? Why do galactic filaments look like neurons? Why can life evolve into anything more complex than bacteria or tube worms? Why can we recognize horror or beauty at all, when an antelope can stand there chewing grass while its buddy gets sucked underwater by a crocodile ten feet away? I think the horror gives value to the beauty, or what we recognize as beauty is a glimpse of the underlying pattern or structure of everything, a universal symmetry that isn't always apparent but that we can see into for just a snap, in a painting or a rainbow or a canyon or a supernova. e also it's still a solar panel, balloon, or cgi
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Lackey posted:Also, I'm not terribly thrilled to be the one to ask this as I really don't wish to draw undue attention to myself, but am I really the only person in this thread who has had an NDE? I've really been hoping that someone else would come forward so that I could chime in, but I have a feeling that's not going to happen. I had (kind of) an NDE. It was incredibly weird and it's the only time I have heard about somebody experiencing someone else's death as an NDE. Never had anything remotely similar happen before or since, so it's not like I believe I am psychic or whatever. I wish I could explain it but it sticks with me to this day. D-Pad posted:Story Time!
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