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Casimir Radon posted:According to Luceno via Wookiepedia ‘Sheev’ was the name Lucas came up with for use with the Star Wars: Underworld show that never happened. I’d wondered because he went to pains to not give him a first name in Darth Plagueis, then casually drops it in Tarkin a couple years later. "Sheev" is also phonetically close to the gaelic "sìth", which makes his name another Lucas-style descriptive name like Greedo and Sleazebaggano
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What about count poop aka Darth Tyrannus
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Live-action debut of both a pretty major classic EU character, plus a lesser Disney-era EU character, on Mandalorian this week. Captain Pellaeon! Played by Xander Berkeley, the guy who has to be in every genre show for at least an episode. And General Hux's father, played by General Hux's brother.
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Correct me if I’m wrong but Wasn’t Commandant Hux written to look like Brendan Gleason in Phasma? Brian’s a bit too skinny.
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Casimir Radon posted:Correct me if I’m wrong but Wasn’t Commandant Hux written to look like Brendan Gleason in Phasma? Brian’s a bit too skinny. Yeah, but he's got plenty of time to pack on some pounds in the Outer Rim, if you know what I'm saying. I don't remember when Phasma is set, to be fair. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Apr 13, 2023 |
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Chairman Capone posted:There also is a full-on spoiler image released of Grand Admiral Thrawn as he looks in Ahsoka floating around so beware if you want to avoid character spoilers related to that show, but I regret to say that he really, really looks like Elon Musk to me. Oh ugh that was real? I thought it was some fake bullshit my youtube was recommending to me.
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Hey I’m talking on a Star Wars discord and could someone give me the cliffs notes on why Troy Denning is so hated? I don’t know if I’ve ever read any of his books (or if I have, I don’t remember them at all).
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Xenomrph posted:Hey I’m talking on a Star Wars discord and could someone give me the cliffs notes on why Troy Denning is so hated? I don’t know if I’ve ever read any of his books (or if I have, I don’t remember them at all). he wrote a lot of the post-NJO bad books including the bug orgy one that was in this thread's title for years and was also supervising other authors, like karen traviss, who were also writing bad books. idk i think his contributions to the pre-NJO canon like tatooine ghost are pretty good but it seems like becoming the lead EU guy writing the big main plot books instead of small sidestories broke his brain or something.
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Xenomrph posted:Hey I’m talking on a Star Wars discord and could someone give me the cliffs notes on why Troy Denning is so hated? I don’t know if I’ve ever read any of his books (or if I have, I don’t remember them at all). He made Star Wars pretty miserable.
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Apr 16, 2023 04:20
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He thinks a really high body count and grisly violence is the only way to have high stakes.
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Isn't he weirdly misogynistic too or am I confusing him for someone else? The slapfight between him and Traviss didn't help anyone's impression of him either.
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Arquinsiel posted:Isn't he weirdly misogynistic too or am I confusing him for someone else?
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Was it Denning or Traviss who killed off Mara Jade? I’m sure someone can give more details, but the general gist I’ve always gotten of the post-NJO books is they tend to be too grimdark and full of blatant author slap fighting from one book to the next, particularly with Denning and Traviss (Which seems to be a common theme with Traviss).
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fartknocker posted:Was it Denning or Traviss who killed off Mara Jade? That was Traviss.
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It was Traviss who killed her and Pellaeon off, but Denning was running the show. Zahn didn’t find out until after the books were printed and wasn’t happy. I think Traviss was also the brain genius who thought implying Tahiri sexually assaulted underage Ben Skywalker was a great plot point.
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Casimir Radon posted:I think Traviss was also the brain genius who thought implying Tahiri sexually assaulted underage Ben Skywalker was a great plot point. Nope, that was Denning too
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Xenomrph posted:Hey I’m talking on a Star Wars discord and could someone give me the cliffs notes on why Troy Denning is so hated? I don’t know if I’ve ever read any of his books (or if I have, I don’t remember them at all). A few reasons besides the ones mentioned above: Denning seemed to really enjoy torturing the Young Jedi Knights characters and he's one of the reasons that the YJK cast got so hollowed out and the OT-era "adult" cast stayed in the center stage. He also didn't seem to have a firm grasp of time so just wrote Jaina at age 40 like she was still a teenager. Near the end of his tenure I know he made a statement to the effect of "if characters aren't in the Jedi Temple they don't count" and so his entire Jedi Order were just the Jedi living in the temple and no real consideration to those elsewhere. He also explicitly disliked the Legacy comics, stated that he did not consider them canonical, and actively tried to sabotage them (for example, by having Jagged Fel retire from Imperial leadership, at odds with what the Legacy comics state). Arquinsiel posted:Isn't he weirdly misogynistic too or am I confusing him for someone else? I don't know if this is necessarily misogynistic but he repeatedly had Leia dress up as an alien and had other characters talk about how sexy she looked. I think it happens in Tatooine Ghost, Star by Star, and one of his LOTF books (where it's Jaina who's the one who thinks how hot her mom looks as an alien).
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Casimir Radon posted:I think Traviss was also the brain genius who thought implying Tahiri sexually assaulted underage Ben Skywalker was a great plot point. That was Denning and there was no implication. Tahiri explicitly shoes her hand beneath Ben's waistband while he's strapped down to a table because a 30 year old woman molesting a 14 year old boy is really what Star Wars needs. There's plenty to Criticize in Traviss's books without pinning the gross crap Denning wrote on her as well. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Apr 16, 2023 |
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He also had Luke explicitly condone torture for information because it would save lives.
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Arc Hammer posted:That was Denning and there was no implication. Tahiri explicitly shoes her hand beneath Ben's waistband while he's strapped down to a table because a 30 year old woman molesting a 14 year old boy is really what Star Wars needs. 1. Traviss kills Mara and Pellaeon 2. Denning has Jacen crawl around in a pit of syringes. 3. Allston hides in the corner and hopes nobody notices he’s here too. I would reread the Bug Nest Orgy Trilogy again before I’d ever touch LOTF again.
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One of the LOTF books had an interview with the authors of the series that sheds some light on some of their decisions, including stuff like Mara's death:LOTF Author Interview posted:
There's also something kind of funny about Traviss being asked about the Force, and her quoting her own Boba Fett dialogue as a reliable authority. quote:
Her aside about the World Bank also seems to have unfortunately foreshadowed her retweeting Breitbart people and liking Elon Musk tweets about the "woke mind virus".
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Wasn’t aware of her more recent activities but she did have a pretty fashy vibe even back when she threw her fit and quit SW.
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I occasionally had a peek at Traviss' blog back when I was young and stupid and the only thing she had written yet was the first two Republic Commando books, and what I remember of it is that she simultaneously seemed to hold a huge reverence for the military seemingly stemming from her days as a defense correspondent, while also having zero faith in civilian government (her living in England, this is somewhat understandable). And she was online, a lot. She was probably already on that trajectory, but it couldn't have helped that her work being as polarising as it was left her essentially at the center of her own echo chamber.
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Back in the day when she posted on TheForce.Net, one of her biggest fans there explicitly described himself as a Catholic Fascist. And this was the mid-2000s, before conservatives were as comfortable saying that out loud as they are now. Funnily that guy had a meltdown when Travis’s introduced the gay Mandalorians. I’m going to guess she probably wouldn’t do that today. I used to interact with Traviss on LiveJournal back when Hard Contact came out and the only thing I remember was her talking about getting off to Temuera Morrison and the guy who was the Peacekeeper commander in the early seasons of Farscape.
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I argue she was always that. Case in point, her Gears of Wars books....
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The fact that she worked as a journalist in England also probably meant she was destined to become a right wing lunatic. Though I do think that more broadly there's also the fact that a lot of journalists across the Atlantic simultaneously think of themselves as liberals but are actually fairly conservative (the reasonable centrist disorder).
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The second New Republic Marvel Omnibus comes out in September collecting the entire comic Thrawn Trilogy, Dark Empire Trilogy, and a bunch of Boba Fett issuess. I am excited, and already sold my old Dark Empire Marvel TPB to get it.
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Rochallor posted:KOTOR has a lot to answer for. Sheev has grown on me alot. its dumb as hell but it has a nice banality of evil to it. like some evil wizard who made grand plans and hosed the galaxy for decades is basicaly named steve,
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:The second New Republic Marvel Omnibus comes out in September collecting the entire comic Thrawn Trilogy, Dark Empire Trilogy, and a bunch of Boba Fett issuess. I am excited, and already sold my old Dark Empire Marvel TPB to get it. It's kind of silly that the Thrawn Trilogy comics adaptations didn't use the same artist. It gives them a lot of disconnect. The best by far is Dark Force Rising, which was done by Terry Dodson. Dodson is also one of the few people who worked on Dark Horse-era Star Wars comic and also did stuff in the (new) Marvel era. Those Boba Fett comics are a lot of fun, too. Standalone stories that have action but also aren't too serious. Actually, thinking about it, they'd be great source material for adapting to Mandalorian episodes.
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Chairman Capone posted:It's kind of silly that the Thrawn Trilogy comics adaptations didn't use the same artist. It gives them a lot of disconnect. The best by far is Dark Force Rising, which was done by Terry Dodson. Dodson is also one of the few people who worked on Dark Horse-era Star Wars comic and also did stuff in the (new) Marvel era. It's my secret wish that we get a Book of Boba Fett season 2 and it straight up adapts Boba Fett: Twin Engines of Destruction.
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Chairman Capone posted:It's kind of silly that the Thrawn Trilogy comics adaptations didn't use the same artist. It gives them a lot of disconnect. The best by far is Dark Force Rising, which was done by Terry Dodson. Dodson is also one of the few people who worked on Dark Horse-era Star Wars comic and also did stuff in the (new) Marvel era. That's the downside of comics, artists change frequently it seems. I do remember Book 2 and 3 adaptations having better art. I love those covers they did too. Only Boba Fett comic I had as a kid was the one where Fett hunts down the ex-Imperials who are straight up genociding aliens because they can.
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I should probably grab that omnibus. I have the Thrawn Trilogy and Crimson Empire in hardcover but haven’t managed to buy a nice copy of Dark Empire any time it’s been marginally affordable.
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Xenomrph posted:It's my secret wish that we get a Book of Boba Fett season 2 and it straight up adapts Boba Fett: Twin Engines of Destruction. That would be cool, but they'd have to change a lot. They've already done Cobb Vanth as a "mistaken for Mandalorian character", and now that Fett's armor isn't unique, contriving a reason for someone to impersonate him specifically rather than just trading on the Mandalorian reputation in general might be difficult. Though they really haven't touched on the Clone aspect of the character very much. The new canon has shied away from the idea of Clones being culturally Mandalorian, but it still could be interesting if some clone's kid is running around as a bounty hunter claiming to be Jango Fett's son, and Boba has to basically face off against a younger version of himself. It could also deal with some of the criticism from the first season that they made Boba a crime lord who doesn't do any crimes - maybe it would start with him out to prove that he's still the hardass guy he used to be, but over the course of the series he'd come to terms with getting older and softer, and maybe have to choose between killing the kid or helping him to clean up his act. But by then you're getting so far away from the original story that it wouldn't even be worth calling it the same thing.
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Robot Style posted:The new canon has shied away from the idea of Clones being culturally Mandalorian, but it still could be interesting if some clone's kid is running around as a bounty hunter claiming to be Jango Fett's son, and Boba has to basically face off against a younger version of himself.
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There's enough cloning projects going around in Disney EU at the moment that you could just have some other random Imperial warlord with a cat somewhere making Fett clones.
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Arquinsiel posted:The clone would be older. We know what Rex looked liked by the time Yavin rolled around, and it doesn't seem like the advanced aging speed ever got "fixed". Robot Style posted:it still could be interesting if some clone's kid
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