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Mister Speaker posted:I still don't get this movie. It was really nice to see Toronto not trying to be some other city for once, and it was a compelling plot, but I really don't get the ending. https://www.vulture.com/article/enemy-movie-ending-explained.html I don't think there's a spoonfed explanation out there, but it's cool
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something something turn into your own worst blah blah
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# ? Jan 22, 2023 10:20 |
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The Voice probably works on animals to some degree, it's whole effect is basically to bypass most of the conscious brain and slam the 'AUTHORITY' button.
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# ? Jan 22, 2023 10:28 |
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Relevant to Enemy re:spiders (link is not a spoiler since it’s a real world statue that you could have know about beforehand).
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# ? Jan 22, 2023 13:49 |
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I mean what are chairdogs if not dogs that have been told to “sit” while using the voice? Edit: but seriously aren’t distrans evidence that people in that universe have commodified the science of imprinting animals?
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# ? Jan 22, 2023 14:26 |
Jewmanji posted:I mean what are chairdogs if not dogs that have been told to “sit” while using the voice?
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# ? Jan 22, 2023 14:57 |
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Later on in the novels, it's revealed that it's not just animals that're used as distrans - and there's even a bit where a secret message is inscribed in the eye of someone (a Bene Gesserit?). Wha? I don’t remember this at all.
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# ? Jan 22, 2023 15:00 |
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Did anyone trying turning Austin Butler completely off and then back on to fix the Elvis Voice?
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# ? Jan 22, 2023 21:11 |
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Did anyone trying turning Austin Butler completely off I mean, I could give it a shot.
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# ? Jan 22, 2023 21:16 |
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I had a terrible nightmare were they gave Paul a comic relief sidekick for the sequel and the war devolved into slapstick fights in the sand. I blame Elvis.
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# ? Feb 7, 2023 20:00 |
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DeafNote posted:I had a terrible nightmare were they gave Paul a comic relief sidekick for the sequel and the war devolved into slapstick fights in the sand.
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# ? Feb 7, 2023 20:42 |
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Josh Brolin has found a somewhat more lighthearted take on his character for the sequel.
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# ? Feb 8, 2023 00:52 |
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DeafNote posted:I had a terrible nightmare were they gave Paul a comic relief sidekick for the sequel and the war devolved into slapstick fights in the sand. Bugblatter posted:Josh Brolin has found a somewhat more lighthearted take on his character for the sequel. these made me reimagine the first scene introducing brolin's and Isaac's characters for a more contemporary audience Leto: "smile, gurney..." Gurney: "I am smiling." L: "yeah, how about, um, not?" G: "you're not even looking!" L: "it's a menacing grimace. A... men-mace!" G: "...well, that just happened." Thufir: [sigh, shaking head] "my coworkers are imbeciles..."
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# ? Feb 8, 2023 06:01 |
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*paul looks at the camera and makes a classic paul-face*
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# ? Feb 8, 2023 13:54 |
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[record scratch just as the stoneburner blinds Paul] YOU'RE PROBABLY ALL WONDERING HOW I GOT INTO THIS MESS!
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# ? Feb 8, 2023 14:59 |
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kalel posted:these made me reimagine the first scene introducing brolin's and Isaac's characters for a more contemporary audience [Duncan stumbles over a step and falls forward. Reaching out, he grabs hold of Lady Jessica's breasts to steady himself. After a beat, he quickly stands up straight and hurries away awkwardly] Jessica: ...Men, am I right? Gurney: (aside to Paul) what Duncan doesn't know is... She's no lady. She could tear him limb from limb in every type of combat known across the galaxies. [Paul looks appropriately astonished and awed as his mother cocks her head to crack her neck. Later, he will have to rescue her from bog-standard Harkonnen mooks as she is tied up, clothes tattered and wet, having lost her memory and become emotionally unstable] Joss Whedon's Dunc
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# ? Feb 9, 2023 05:01 |
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Bugblatter posted:A lot of people speculate that it’s an homage to the Tarantula Wolf from The Metabarons, but I haven’t seen Villeneuve or the effects team explicitly state that it is. Highly recommend Metabarons.
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# ? Feb 9, 2023 06:23 |
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Noam Chomsky posted:Highly recommend Metabarons. Same, though with the caveat that it is the second most Jodorowsky thing ever made for better and for worse (the first most is definitely another comic he did later in the same setting called The Techno Priests). I think the spider is an homage, but maybe more like the Lion King/Kimba similarities where no one Dune effects/art person was like "let's homage this specific thing" but they just collectively arrived at that from general inspiration.
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# ? Feb 9, 2023 15:39 |
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You think it's too late for Villeneuve to change it up? Because this would actually rule : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQYg76EaVac
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 06:49 |
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The Kwisatz Haderach... He's white! HE'S WHITE????
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 14:08 |
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Now I can hear the weird throat singing but it’s Elvis doing it and you can tell.
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# ? Feb 17, 2023 01:43 |
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https://twitter.com/screenrant/status/1650114863530639360?t=OcxbYP4IcTWNUzMp2ZjRyA&s=19 Hmm... I wonder which scene they could possibly be talking about it's the spice orgy
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 16:27 |
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Pretty sure there are a dozen other ways to do that and keep a PG13. We all saw the rave thing in the Matrix. Let’s not do that again.
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 17:04 |
Seems like the author of the article is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill, while not really justifying the claims the headline and subheadlines are making. I imagine that even a semi-talented script writer can easily work the script to include everything but the actual bumping uglies part of the orgy.
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 17:15 |
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There are some important bits around that scene, but yeah you could shift them around or just not depict a literal orgy pretty easily.
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 17:20 |
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Just have a bunch of hazy dreamlike images of writhing bodies and moaning faces intercut with spice consumption and plot stuff
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 17:27 |
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I mean they cut the banquet scene too so I'm sure they could figure out a way to get the main point across.
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 18:05 |
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The metaphorical orgy is more important than the physical orgy. I want Chani getting freaked out when Paul's prescience starts leaking more than I want to see Stilgar laying pipe.
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 18:10 |
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No you see it’s vitally important to the plot that we see Timothée Chalamet’s sand-worm on screen.
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 19:45 |
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The banquet scene was a much bigger deal. Did they actually shoot it? I swore there’s some photos of Jessica in a dinner dress floating around.
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 19:56 |
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I heard they shot it and of course since Villeneuve hates deleted scenes we'll probably never see it.
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If they cut the coffee set scenes I will boycott this movie.
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 20:09 |
Yeah, the banquet scene was much more important in terms of understanding the forces at play, which later on go on to affect the plot of the book. To not shoot it because it relies heavily on internal dialogue would be one thing, but to shoot and then get rid of it? That's just frustrating, because it seems to suggest to me that they had an idea of how to do it, and just didn't try hard enough.
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 20:40 |
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I think the issue is the movie was already very long and if you gave the banquet you need to include the suk conditioning and the whole subplot about who the traitor is. I get how that's a big part of the story and important in a lot of ways but I think it's a very elegant way to trim the story down. Maybe some day when Villeneuve is done with releasing however many dunes he wants to do he'll turn around and see if he can re-edit them as a single 10 hour miniseries or whatever. I'm not counting on it, but I'd love to see it some day.
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 21:18 |
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I just want LotR style Extended Cuts tbh
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 21:26 |
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If someone can tell Ridley Scott to shut up and release a special edition for Alien I'm sure someone can to DV.
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 21:31 |
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Oh no Denis is cutting the spice orgy double anal and the tour of the secret fremen spice lube and spice poppers factories, wow way to disrespect the source material dude
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# ? Apr 24, 2023 23:35 |
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Baron von Eevl posted:I think the issue is the movie was already very long and if you gave the banquet you need to include the suk conditioning and the whole subplot about who the traitor is. I get how that's a big part of the story and important in a lot of ways but I think it's a very elegant way to trim the story down. he'll never do that because he's in the "films are static monolithic works that must be released according to the filmmaker's intention" camp
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# ? Apr 25, 2023 02:22 |
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kalel posted:he'll never do that because he's in the "films are static monolithic works that must be released according to the filmmaker's intention" camp Still beats the hell out of Michael Mann constantly re-editing everything.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Still beats the hell out of Michael Mann constantly re-editing everything. Directors should constantly re-edit and special edition and director's cut and otherwise screw with their stuff to see if they can make other cool poo poo with it. The original is still there for us to enjoy, why not get some new cuts that gives the rest of us new lenses into pieces of art we love?
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