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Trabisnikof posted:“Wearing a mask can thus be a strange thing: sometimes, more often than we tend to believe, there is more truth in the mask that in what we assume to be our "real self.” drat
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Space Camp fuckup posted:Sounds like you’re just easily swayed. All that poo poo is still weird. who still cares about furries in 2023 lmao
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Increasingly obvious the age of this thread is well past 35 and rapidly approaching Old
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People developing extrapersonal relationships with youtubers is bad, but people developing extrapersonal relationships with v-tubers who are not real people is even worse. Plus everyone is super creepy about these things
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Equeen posted:who still cares about furries in 2023 lmao within any large Goon Discord there's a 30% chance that any time you open the chatroom they'll be talking about furries / being furries lol thinking back at the old large goon IRC channels that had their superstars, "culture" etc, all of whom were jilted SASS style permabanned freaks of the highest order. awful places
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Whirling posted:Vtuber stuff is very weird to me since the bigger companies that do it model themselves off how Japanese/Korean idol groups are run, and that whole industry is some of the most rancid poo poo imaginable. They have to call getting fired or quitting "graduating" because it sounds "nicer", they have to pay for all their streaming equipment and also their own merch, and a few have lost their jobs over poo poo like accidentally admitting they have a boyfriend (which drives people who pretend-date these women absolutely nuts). I think some of the women who do vtubing are funny and seem like nice people, but the industry as a whole is incredibly scummy and the anime aesthetic attracts some of the worst freaks on planet Earth. Also I don't really like streaming in general since I'd rather play a fun game myself than watch it be played. Yeah the Japanese idol industry just feel like rhe grossest thing ever. Though I'm not sure if they're any different from Hollywood..
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Cael posted:A lot of the forum's reaction to vtubers honestly seems like it mirrors furries from 20 years ago: something that seems gay as hell, easy to ridicule anyone associated with it, but then a decade passes and you go "oh that was sure a lot of bandwagon-ing back then, why did I even give a poo poo, go off kings & queens you do you" Dragons have three primary sexes and four major genders edit: i put my tube in her v until she UwU crepeface has issued a correction as of 03:24 on May 8, 2023 |
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May 8, 2023 02:50
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i learned about furries from a episode of CSI
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Furries go and hang out with other furries. It's a weird hobby, but at least its a social one. Paying to watch someone pretending to be an anime girl playing video games and pogging or whatever is much sadder than going to a furry con
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Popy posted:i learned about furries from a episode of CSI Oh man, I remember when my mom learned about furries from CSI in 2004 and i was like "yeah mom, they're called furverts. you need to kill them with fire so they can yiff in hell"
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every time stav turns left or right its like a escher optical illusion
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A Russian troll farm posted:Furries go and hang out with other furries. It's a weird hobby, but at least its a social one. Paying to watch someone pretending to be an anime girl playing video games and pogging or whatever is much sadder than going to a furry con My neighbor's kid is 18 and makes fursuits in their spare time. Honestly the parents are just happy that they are hanging out with kids their age and making friends, something that they apparently struggled with for a long time. No hate here.
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Smythe posted:sorry to continue the derail but this sentence has been haunting me. this posting voice has grown increasingly common on the forums, especially regarding chat threads. it is implied that the people in these "spaces" are "normal" "pals" who are "hanging out" and any aspersions cast are salty, bitter misanthropes essential tossing pebbles and stones at the well adjusted kids on the swing set. but i dont think this is the case most of the time. i think its really pathetic to sit in a twitch stream and "hang out" with a bunch of depraved pornography addicts "tipping" "bits" to a cartoon character or obsessively "shitposting" about embarrassing consumerist "hobbies" it's "calm hitlering" but for hosed up parasocial relationships in my opinion Cael posted:A lot of the forum's reaction to vtubers honestly seems like it mirrors furries from 20 years ago: something that seems gay as hell, easy to ridicule anyone associated with it, but then a decade passes and you go "oh that was sure a lot of bandwagon-ing back then, why did I even give a poo poo, go off kings & queens you do you" it is in that they all want to gently caress the anime characters, at least a little bit
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gently caress this. The person I specifically I mentioned was someone I've met nearly a decade ago and talked with before twitch was a thing, and saw their lil twitch rig system as a neat example of it. I was trying to find an example of what one could do with a model and instead I got pages of goons trying to pin their weird neurosis about other online circles into "advice" that would just mean "be neurotic about everyone but on the specifically approved way".
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im sorry vtubers suck dude it's cool your fav vtubers different but everything I've seen about them on the forums is for sickos https://i.imgur.com/fCvGETo.mp4
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Vtubers are here to stay. Make peace with your gods. I don't give a poo poo about streaming and don't watch any of it but these people collectively get millions of views so clearly there's a sizeable audience for it. Some of your coworkers probably go home and spend their evening watching an anime girl click heads in CoD
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I mean I get the feedback about them and after a lot of horror stories about them it would be silly to not expect such a pushback, but seeing "No this is all a big sign of social malaise, you should uproot a good chunk of your friend group" got to me because these aren't just people I watch and see on a screen, but people I've talked to for nearly two decades and greatly helped me in many ways.
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if you've met them and interacted with them before they became a vtuber then you're probably not who smythe is talkin' about?
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I just got really defensive from seeing that plus the entire thread that followed from it, these are people who I knew from almost ICQ times, almost a few years before someone brought me an account here.
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May 8, 2023 10:44
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there's a multi-billion dollar industry built on sad nerds paying money to get the woman behind the anime avatar to read their comments on stream
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I'm not really watching any kind of streaming stuff, but is there a fundamental difference between a dude doing soy face while saying gamer words for money as opposed to doing the same except while running an anime and doing a fake voice? It all seems equally weird to me.
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May 8, 2023 10:56
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not really, tho i'm convinced that the ultimate goal of the companies running popular vtubers is to have eternal characters that they can exploit without regard to the actual people behind them. i expect to see human/chatbot fusions soon, like the call center workers who can only respond via soundboards
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Oneiros posted:there's a multi-billion dollar industry built on sad nerds paying money to get the woman behind the anime avatar to read their comments on stream that's right
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tho that does raise the question of how much this poo poo is really driven by the idea that there is an actual, physical woman behind the anime who might gently caress these incels (in their fantasies). the fact that they are paying money to have their chats read on stream is apparently not enough of a clue as to the actual nature of this parasocial relationship but i imagine if you rip the human out entirely the whole thing falls apart
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otaku's waifus don't have a physical human being behind them already tbf
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fair, but i'd argue that's an even smaller audience (tho probably well paying)
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(none of this is to suggest that i blame or dicourage women [because afaict it's predominately women] from using avatars to stream. the egregious poo poo i still see directed at identifiable women online in gaming spaces in tyool 2023 is all the justification they need. the poo poo you can see directed at vtubers can at least be deflected at the avatar)
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They're prob on the way out being replaced with whatever is we're doing with the constant online presence and surrounding ourselves with media, but I get the feeling Japan was decades ahead on these type of things. They were the Joker.
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lmao struggle session over vtubers.
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genericnick posted:I'm not really watching any kind of streaming stuff, but is there a fundamental difference between a dude doing soy face while saying gamer words for money as opposed to doing the same except while running an anime and doing a fake voice? It all seems equally weird to me.
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Fine, I'll out myself as an old by asking this question: what the gently caress is a vtube?
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mycomancy posted:Fine, I'll out myself as an old by asking this question: what the gently caress is a vtube? streamers who have an animated avatar. yes, that avatar is often of an anime little girl. yes their fans tip them and obsess over them. oh you think that’s weird? well maybe YOU’RE weird for thinking that!
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tokin opposition posted:Increasingly obvious the age of this thread is well past 35 and rapidly approaching Old Vtubing makes me disrespect people who watch day time television. I look at the olds in my life glued to the cable box watching Fox News or The View and think that they are fools. Joy Anne Baar would never read your name on broadcast and thank you no matter how many commemorative plates you buy.
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Oneiros posted:not really, tho i'm convinced that the ultimate goal of the companies running popular vtubers is to have eternal characters that they can exploit without regard to the actual people behind them. i expect to see human/chatbot fusions soon, like the call center workers who can only respond via soundboards That makes a lot of sense, yeah.
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