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certainly seems like a set up to be shanks' brother at least, or something similar, we still know nothing about the man's family or history
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the second character has horns, I don’t think anyone in shanks crew has horns
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May 10, 2023 20:44
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Obviously the silhouette is a Shanks that grew back from the lost arm.
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Ape Has Killed Ape posted:Obviously the silhouette is a Shanks that grew back from the lost arm. *eyes Vegapunk with a combination of equal parts revulsion and respect*
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May 10, 2023 20:49
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Ape Has Killed Ape posted:Obviously the silhouette is a Shanks that grew back from the lost arm. He's just been faking it really good this entire time.
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May 10, 2023 21:22
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the arm grew another shanks, but shanks didn't grow another arm. so obviously, the arm is the real shanks.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:the arm grew another shanks, but shanks didn't grow another arm. so obviously, the arm is the real shanks. "Are you Shanks?" "No this is Patrick"
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May 10, 2023 21:33
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Blue-Haired Banks.
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May 10, 2023 21:53
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its binks, obviously.
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May 10, 2023 22:14
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it could also be like a loving Shanks Seraphim or something (S-Hair). or a goddamn clone now that that's been established can happen. anything is possible in one piece land
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May 10, 2023 23:05
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I mean we saw him talking with the Elders so at the very least they probably think he's working for them? I'm curious what the logistics would be though, did he only start working for the government after he stole the Gum-Gum Fruit from them? Or was he the guy transporting it on behalf of the government?
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I mean we saw him talking with the Elders so at the very least they probably think he's working for them? I'm curious what the logistics would be though, did he only start working for the government after he stole the Gum-Gum Fruit from them? Or was he the guy transporting it on behalf of the government? A major plot hole would finally make sense: Shanks was supposed to transport the gum-gum fruit and "accidentally" lost it. He deliberately gave up his arm to sell the story of his "defeat".
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May 11, 2023 03:30
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luchadornado posted:A major plot hole would finally make sense: Shanks was supposed to transport the gum-gum fruit and "accidentally" lost it. He deliberately gave up his arm to sell the story of his "defeat". The government already had that fruit and then Shanks stole it.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:The government already had that fruit and then Shanks stole it. To devils advocate, the navy had the fruit, which includes a lot of low level sailors and what, a vice admiral? If you really wanted to make something disappear, you wouldn't put it in a bureaucracy, you'd have it get stolen, and then accidentally lost eaten by a random kid on an island no one's heard of. It does more fully resolve a few plot points, - How him showing up instantly de-escalates any and all conflicts with Admirals and the navy - How he talked to the Five Elders , but Shanks to date has been such a force for good that I can't buy into the 'evil shanks' stuff yet. Curious how Oda would reconcile him being both a pawn of the World Nobles and also happy-go-lucky pirate emperor. Shiloutte is obviously intentional.
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Seeing Morley, a badass revolutionary queen, fighting Aramaki, the most overtly fascist of the current Admirals (yes, even more than Akainu, IMO. At least, Akainu isn't a Celestial Dragon fanboy) is very satisfying. I hope Morley tore him apart
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luchadornado posted:A major plot hole would finally make sense: Shanks was supposed to transport the gum-gum fruit and "accidentally" lost it. He deliberately gave up his arm to sell the story of his "defeat". Do people really think "Shanks got hurt real bad protecting someone" is a plot hole now.
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May 11, 2023 07:13
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They've been thinking it for years
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Lotta people seem to think One Piece operates on DBZ logic where if someone weaker than you punches you in the face, you not only take zero damage but your face doesn't even move cause you're immune to physics. Thus it makes no logical sense how Shanks could ever lose an arm to a creature that Chapter 1 Luffy was able to beat in one punch, despite the numerous times in the series characters have taken hits because Haki is an active thing the user has to maintain and not just permanent 24/7 super armor. Like there's multiple fights where Luffy almost dies cause he wears himself out using Haki too much even!
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Drakkel posted:Lotta people seem to think One Piece operates on DBZ logic where if someone weaker than you punches you in the face, you not only take zero damage but your face doesn't even move cause you're immune to physics. https://youtu.be/8TM7XMr1WNI
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For real though I just wrote off Shanks' arm as a power creep thing but that theory makes enough sense that I'd be happy if it turned out to be correct in some way.
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I always just assumed Shanks lost the arm because he was totally wasted. Just completely and utterly blasted. They did just finish drinking all the liquor in windmill village after all.
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CatstropheWaitress posted:To devils advocate, the navy had the fruit, which includes a lot of low level sailors and what, a vice admiral? If you really wanted to make something disappear, you wouldn't put it in a bureaucracy, you'd have it get stolen, and then accidentally lost eaten by a random kid on an island no one's heard of. The fruit was being transported on a government ship, not a navy ship.
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CatstropheWaitress posted:but Shanks to date has been such a force for good that I can't buy into the 'evil shanks' stuff yet. Curious how Oda would reconcile him being both a pawn of the World Nobles and also happy-go-lucky pirate emperor. Shiloutte is obviously intentional. I'm assuming Oda is aware of the "evil Shanks" theory that's been floating around for a while online and wants to troll readers for a bit first.
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mabels big day posted:we got the most important truth which is that Karasu is sick He has a bad coal'd
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Drakkel posted:Lotta people seem to think One Piece operates on DBZ logic where if someone weaker than you punches you in the face, you not only take zero damage but your face doesn't even move cause you're immune to physics. Thus it makes no logical sense how Shanks could ever lose an arm to a creature that Chapter 1 Luffy was able to beat in one punch, despite the numerous times in the series characters have taken hits because Haki is an active thing the user has to maintain and not just permanent 24/7 super armor. Like there's multiple fights where Luffy almost dies cause he wears himself out using Haki too much even! you say DBZ logic but goku got ganked in resurrection F Also that bit where krillin threw a rock at him E: and thats exactly the video that got linked lmao
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Drakkel posted:Lotta people seem to think One Piece operates on DBZ logic where if someone weaker than you punches you in the face, you not only take zero damage but your face doesn't even move cause you're immune to physics. Thus it makes no logical sense how Shanks could ever lose an arm to a creature that Chapter 1 Luffy was able to beat in one punch, despite the numerous times in the series characters have taken hits because Haki is an active thing the user has to maintain and not just permanent 24/7 super armor. Like there's multiple fights where Luffy almost dies cause he wears himself out using Haki too much even! I think people tend to make that assumption because that was basically true of all the other Emperors we've seen. Kaido and Big Mom were pretty much impervious to actual physical damage - the heroes had to resort to attacking them from the inside with Law's fruit/haki - and Whitebeard was implied to have been on the same tier before he grew old and sick.
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In terms of Shanks' motivation, I think it would make some sense if his reason for working with the government is that he doesn't want the One Piece to be found. He didn't reach Laugh Tale but Roger did tell him something, and maybe there's some consequence of its discovery he wants to avoid. He basically did nothing while Big Mom and Kaido's stalemate largely guaranteed that no-one could find it, and only started moving once that balance was broken. Now there's a real threat from both Luffy and Blackbeard he wants to get there first and prevent someone else from finding it and 'changing the world'.
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Inadequately posted:I think people tend to make that assumption because that was basically true of all the other Emperors we've seen. Kaido and Big Mom were pretty much impervious to actual physical damage - the heroes had to resort to attacking them from the inside with Law's fruit/haki - and Whitebeard was implied to have been on the same tier before he grew old and sick. Even if Shanks is that powerful now, that was like 15 years ago.
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I think CP9 killed Cobra to make Sabo look bad and I also just decided Dragon is the Man Marked by Flames for no reason at all other than it would be very convenient for Luffy and kind of funny if he just gives the last poneglyph to his son to apologize for 19 years of absence.
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speaking of, why is the ex cp9 crew even up there? they aren’t in uniform so i assume they either joined the revolutionary army or somehow got all the way to mary geoise on their own??? am i forgetting an important detail somewhere?
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They all have white suits so I assume they're all CP0 now too.
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i think shanks is pretty likely to be aware of the significance of the gum gum fruit, the prophecies around joyboy, and that roger was too early to find one piece. he's making a move for the one piece now because luffy (who is joyboy) is, and has some awareness of the significance of that and wants to take advantage of that happening in some way (or maybe even prevent it?). if we do end up getting 'shanks works for the government' (which i doubt it'll be at all that straightforward even if it goes in that direction) it'll probably relate to his origin as a child found in a chest at god's valley by roger, which feels like a weirdly significant detail to have just been dropped in a promo thing for film red. god's valley, god's knights...? notwithyourheart posted:speaking of, why is the ex cp9 crew even up there? they aren’t in uniform so i assume they either joined the revolutionary army or somehow got all the way to mary geoise on their own??? am i forgetting an important detail somewhere? seems like they're just confirmed to be in cp0 now too (after one of the films non-canonically did i think). lucci/kaku/stussy were at the levely back when we were first there like 200 chapters ago to serve as security for the celestial dragons so it turns out the rest of cp9 were there too lih fucked around with this message at 13:54 on May 11, 2023 |
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i guess i could see those being white cp suits. seems more casual to me. jabra definitely dressed himself though.
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Is it possible Shanks was the one who told the Elders about the significance of the fruit? I can't remember how the timing lined up on Shank's conversation vs the later one the elders had about it.
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lih posted:they're cp0, they were at the levely back when we were first there like 200 chapters ago to serve as security for the celestial dragons ah that makes much more sense. thank you very much. e: i don’t usually forget one piece so i think i better bang out a full reread just to be safe notwithyourheart fucked around with this message at 13:57 on May 11, 2023 |
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HerraS posted:The fruit was being transported on a government ship, not a navy ship. Oh fair enough. Suppose the point still stands that it could be a plan to dispose of the fruit by feeding it to a random person in a small village no one's heard of. Probably not Luffy, but he does steal the fruit from them. I'm personally still sold on the theory that Shanks (and maybe even Buggy) is Xebec's kid(s). It mirrors to perfectly with the Ace/Garp situation and timeline matches up perfectly. As well as explaining why the Roger Pirates had babies traveling with them. Absolutely no clue how that could reconcile with the God Knight business. Shanks losing his arm falls under that kind of """plot hole""" to me. Where it's not really a hole, plenty of in-universe ways you could explain it away, but is something that is off just enough that it could be more elaborated on. Biggest asset One Piece has is that Oda has managed 1,100 some chapters with consistently satisfying revelations that build and bolster the world. It's fun to speculate on, partly because there's a certainty that the eventual answer is going to be satisfying regardless if you're right. I And half the time he pulls something out of left field completely that's still great. One Piece good.
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The revolutionaries wanted to destroy the food supply, Shanks was there for the booze supply
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I'm about to watch the anime adaptation of Shanks meeting wtih the elders, to try and see what i can assume from that so i go "i will find the chapter it happened in and then the wiki will tell me what anime episode adapted it" and the answer was "this episode adapts the first 4 and last 3 pages, and the previous episode adapts the middle pages". loving amazing lol this sure is one of the OPs of all time  Yup, Shanks is in a cloak that kinda looks like the one when Dragon talks about the knights. He came in in it so nobody knew who he was except the Elders. Wanted to talk about a specific pirate and then next time we see the elders they wanna destroy a light. What is Shanks cooking MorningMoon fucked around with this message at 15:46 on May 11, 2023 |
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