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When is Oda going to give us some economic perspective for the world of One Piece? How are we supposed to compare old characters' bounties to new characters' bounties if we have no idea where the unemployment levels, consumer spending, interest rates, etc. stand?
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Folks, One Class is in the OP, you got no excuse here.
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May 13, 2023 09:35
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I dont think the Revolutionaries are explicitly anti-royalty, theyre just anti World Government.
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May 13, 2023 14:38
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Eustace posted:I dont think the Revolutionaries are explicitly anti-royalty, theyre just anti World Government. They've even explicitly said as much earlier this arc!
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May 13, 2023 14:57
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Have we seen any democracies other than Water 7?
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May 13, 2023 15:06
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Hell ivankov is a loving monarch. Or emperess?
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May 13, 2023 15:22
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i very much doubt that the leadership of super gay to the max island is hereditary.
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May 13, 2023 15:25
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Drag Queen of Queens, succession is obviously decided by a voguing contest
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May 13, 2023 15:29
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i very much doubt that the leadership of super gay to the max island is hereditary. But it is run by the one person that could do that.
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May 13, 2023 15:30
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Is Water 7 a communist city, where the state controls the main mode of production and the workers get their due shares, or is it a ultra capitalist one where the CEO of the biggest company controls all the political power?
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May 13, 2023 15:35
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tbp posted:lol dont be a loser I’m far from t he only person here who thinks you’re a loving dork for complaining that oda hasn’t read enough theory
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May 13, 2023 15:54
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I got the tude now posted:I’m far from t he only person here who thinks you’re a loving dork for complaining that oda hasn’t read enough theory Why dont you go outside and take a nice deep breath of clean air
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May 13, 2023 16:02
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I think most replies were in good faith actually. edit: I think in this kind of fantasy story you kind of have to accept the Good King as a symbol for a fair government that reflects the people. It's only really jarring because One Piece is so contemptuous for the World Nobles, but if you see things for what they represent it's not as contradictory as it seems at first. mycot fucked around with this message at 16:14 on May 13, 2023 |
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May 13, 2023 16:08
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Scallop Eyes posted:Is Water 7 a communist city, where the state controls the main mode of production and the workers get their due shares, or is it a ultra capitalist one where the CEO of the biggest company controls all the political power? It's a corporate town made by multiple separate small businesses wanting a palce for all their workers to live without long (ocean) commutes. This is why the train is so important, it's the equivalent of modern FIFO systems, and is what allows Water 7 to primarily be full of either Shipwright businesses, or the required secondary businesses to support such a large population of shipwrights.
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May 13, 2023 16:11
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I got the tude now posted:I’m far from t he only person here who thinks you’re a loving dork for complaining that oda hasn’t read enough theory you might actually be lmao, stop melting down over this poo poo its embarassing
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May 13, 2023 16:14
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Also with how the government is structured and the size of a lot of islands, sometimes it feels like a king of an island is more like a mayor or governor
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May 13, 2023 16:18
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The Revolutionaries have to be okay with "good" kings if Oda wants to have the Celestial Dragons overthrown in part by the efforts of all the people we've seen. It would be pretty messed up if Luffy's friends had to fight to defend the Celestial Dragons in order to defend their positions. Neptune, Riku, Momonosuke, Vivi- even Dalton is a king, even if he was elected. If the revolutionaries were explicitly "you next" to all these people they'd be pretty reluctant to rise up and support the Revolutionary Army when the time came, and however interesting that'd be intellectually and politically, it would feel bad emotionally, which is more important to this story. From another perspective, Dragon seems to want to tear down the Celestial Dragons specifically. A group entirely focused on that goal is not going to want to alienate sympathetic monarchs who might also want to tear down that particular system. Whether Ivankov is hereditary nobility or not, Kuma definitely was. I kind of like the idea that the Revolutionary Army was founded by people with one particular goal, and more and more radicals joined as time went on pushing the organization to be more extreme. I think that's an explicit part of the story at this point, at least with people praising Sabo for killing Cobra. I got the tude now posted:I’m far from t he only person here who thinks you’re a loving dork for complaining that oda hasn’t read enough theory
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May 13, 2023 16:48
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getting upset about a "good king" in a cartoon is poison brain
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May 13, 2023 16:55
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https://twitter.com/headfallsoff/status/1051484419251425280
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May 13, 2023 16:58
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https://twitter.com/TomHarrison19/status/1236039469339418629
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May 13, 2023 16:59
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I think it comes down to Oda liking storylines about saving princesses
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May 13, 2023 17:19
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imo it's just really amusing that the guy Dragon is propping up as an example of a good king saw his country fall into civil war because he couldn't figure out that the culprit was the superrich pirate who runs a lavish casino in one of the only cities that didn't get wrecked by drought.
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May 13, 2023 17:36
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Is the Berry a fiat money, and if not, what is it backed by?
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May 13, 2023 18:11
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Scholtz posted:Is the Berry a fiat money, and if not, what is it backed by? Citrus berries.
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May 13, 2023 18:22
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When you think about it, a global currency in a world with such barriers to trade between regions is somewhat strange.
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May 13, 2023 18:27
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U-DO Burger posted:imo it's just really amusing that the guy Dragon is propping up as an example of a good king saw his country fall into civil war because he couldn't figure out that the culprit was the superrich pirate who runs a lavish casino in one of the only cities that didn't get wrecked by drought. Wasn't that basically a "young Gannondorf in OoT" situation where the guy had an unassailable public image and everyone except the SH's thought he was a rogueish hero type? I think a bunch of people even refer to him with knightly honorifics at the time.
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May 13, 2023 18:44
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Scholtz posted:Is the Berry a fiat money, and if not, what is it backed by? Berry is gold or some other kind of standard
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May 13, 2023 18:49
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I assume a lot of maritime trade is happening given all the piracy. We were introduced to the Shipping Guy in WCI afterall.
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May 13, 2023 19:11
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Berries are backed by treasure. Nami always trades in their treasure for berries.
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May 13, 2023 19:20
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Crocodile was a Warlord and therefore was essentially untouchable so long as he did nothing outright illegal against Cobra, in fact most of what Croco-boy was doing publicly in Alabasta was being a folk hero who saved towns from bandits. Also the WG implicitly doesn't like the Nefertari family all too much considering the whole "could be Proper Celestial Dragons but live among the poors like losers" thing.
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May 13, 2023 19:22
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“Why is my country having Desert problems?” the king asks the pirate with Desert powers.
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May 13, 2023 19:24
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Wii Spawn Camper posted:“Why is my country having Desert problems?” the king asks the pirate with Desert powers. I thought the idea was that Cobra more or less knows Crocodile is full of poo poo, but cannot prove it. Hence Vivi infiltrating Baroque Works to find said confirmation/proof.
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May 13, 2023 19:29
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Sabo stated back during Reverie before Wano started that they don't even really have a issue with how the World Goverment works as a system, they hate the Celestial Dragons and their tithes. Like it seems their ideal would be for the World Government to just be governed by the rulers of it's various member states, with no force above them, along with the price of membership being reduced.
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May 13, 2023 19:43
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I assume a lot of maritime trade is happening given all the piracy. We were introduced to the Shipping Guy in WCI afterall. Also most of the world is ocean and they haven't finished the large bridge yet
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May 13, 2023 20:19
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Having started reading one piece late, has there been any blimp based storyline? I know there was a bunch of stuff on floating islands. If not, that's what this series is missing, dirigibles.
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May 13, 2023 20:24
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Aurubin posted:Having started reading one piece late, has there been any blimp based storyline? I know there was a bunch of stuff on floating islands. If not, that's what this series is missing, dirigibles. i have 
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May 13, 2023 20:41
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blimps wouldn't work because the grand line still has random unpredictable super storms.
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May 13, 2023 20:53
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If we turned in the top ten the world economy would collapse
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May 13, 2023 21:52
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Lord_Magmar posted:I thought the idea was that Cobra more or less knows Crocodile is full of poo poo, but cannot prove it. Hence Vivi infiltrating Baroque Works to find said confirmation/proof. I always felt it was this, Cobra knew something was up but had no ability to move against Crocodile due to 1. Warlord 2. Croco-boy could wrap up the entire Alabasta Military if he really felt like it. 3. Not enough evidence to get the Navy involved.
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AtomikKrab posted:I always felt it was this, Cobra knew something was up but had no ability to move against Crocodile due to 4. Crocodile was incredibly popular with the population of Alabasta and was already having trouble with Koza and his guys
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