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Cybernetic Vermin posted:weirdly feels kind of reasonable to sue over this, despite the not very reasonable sequence of events leading there. I kind of feel like if you're going for an MRI scan the impetus is on you and the hospital to check for that kind of thing
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mystes posted:Does literally every product in the world have to be labelled with whether it contains metal that might not be immediately obvious just because someone might randomly try to take it to an MRI scan? does it weigh more than one would expect? probably? i also know from experience with kitchenware (failing!) that most silicone implements of a certain size have some amount of metal/wire in them somewhere for structure
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May 26, 2023 17:42
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Sagebrush posted:why would you wear your sex toy to a doctor's appointment
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mystes posted:Does literally every product in the world have to be labelled with whether it contains metal that might not be immediately obvious just because someone might randomly try to take it to an MRI scan? my conviction is not very deep, but it actually doesn't seem that excessive to have most kinds of products materials exhaustively listed, and at minimum seems dubious to label products 100% x if they are to a significant degree not made of x. my sympathy is absolutely not very deep for this person, but i can again see how they'd feel wrong done by.
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Kenny Logins posted:iirc the test is whether a reasonable person in that position would have known there was a hazard (i.e. metal core) based on the trade dress and claims made, and the otherwise patently observable physical characteristics of the product Cybernetic Vermin posted:my conviction is not very deep, but it actually doesn't seem that excessive to have most kinds of products materials exhaustively listed, and at minimum seems dubious to label products 100% x if they are to a significant degree not made of x.
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a metal core in a butt plug is super weird actually. most dildos and butt plugs usually don’t have them and I don’t think I’ve ever seen one that does
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my understanding of butt plugs is that wearing them discreetly out in public is part of the appeal of owning one at all. someone who makes them would probably know that use case, but probably wouldn't know mri screening procedure
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May 26, 2023 17:46
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Kenny Logins posted:my understanding of butt plugs is that wearing them discreetly out in public is part of the appeal of owning one at all. someone who makes them would probably know that use case, but probably wouldn't know mri screening procedure It just seems like when someone occasionally does an mri the person taking the mri and the hospital need to check to make sure that they don't have any dangerous objects on their person and I don't understand why random companies should be liable for not marking random products for whether they are safe for MRIs
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May 26, 2023 17:48
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mystes posted:I don't see why a metal core is a "hazard" at all if it only becomes dangerous in a weird situation like an MRI and it's not intended to be used in an MRI your instinct is of course what makes this a good test case
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mystes posted:Maybe materials should be labelled for all products for other reasons but that seems completely separate from this case to me this is pure fun thought experiment driven by a funny (though of course tragic) real event, if we're taking serious basis for legislation we're going to pass i not only don't think this case relevant, but there's probably other more important laws to pass yeah.
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May 26, 2023 17:49
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they are going to blanket ban butt plugs in mri machines and that's just going to hurt people that do proper butt plug due diligence and test ferromagnetism themselves
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Don't they put people through a metal detector or something before MRIs? It seems like accidentally bringing in metallic objects would be a huge danger in general
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mystes posted:lots of products are designed to be worn in public. Do they all need to have labeling to indicate whether they are safe to wear in an MRI or in a zero gravity situation or in parallel universes?
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mystes posted:Don't they put people through a metal detector or something before MRIs? It seems like accidentally bringing in metallic objects would be a huge danger in general
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Yeah I don't know about legally but I would sure as gently caress hope the MRI tech would screen all objects for metals
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mystes posted:Don't they put people through a metal detector or something before MRIs? It seems like accidentally bringing in metallic objects would be a huge danger in general https://mriquestions.com/metal-detectors.html quote:FMDS are designed primarily to detect ferromagnetic objects outside the patient and do so with very high sensitivity and specificity. They may also be used to detect internal ferromagnetic objects, though their reliability in this regard is still under investigation.
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mystes posted:I don't understand why random companies should be liable for not marking random products for whether they are safe for MRIs
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May 26, 2023 17:54
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Sagebrush posted:why would you wear your sex toy to a doctor's appointment sex reasons
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Kenny Logins posted:if there was no trade dress/claim of "100% silicone" (as it appears there is) then this case against a manufacturer wouldn't have a leg to stand on imo
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May 26, 2023 17:58
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Sagebrush posted:why would you wear your sex toy to a doctor's appointment Practical joke on your mri tech friend.
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Kenny Logins posted:if there was no trade dress/claim of "100% silicone" (as it appears there is) then this case against a manufacturer wouldn't have a leg to stand on imo yeah that's my take, it's whatever if the metal core was declared on the packaging and the customer didn't notice/pay attention to it, but it's different if it claimed to be completely silicone
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new orgiasmomon squart guy just dropped
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Kenny Logins posted:yeah, like i figure an orthodontist doesn't need to tell someone they give braces to not to get an mri. the mri tech would be expected to notice or ask that kind of question, or otherwise use a detector as a failsafe I have wires permanently bonded to my teeth and I got an MRI just fine  Sagebrush posted:why would you wear your sex toy to a doctor's appointment keep the farts in obviously
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Improbable Lobster posted:sex reasons You’re not meant to involve other people in your sex reasons without their consent and an mri is specifically to look inside you.
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Improbable Lobster posted:yeah that's my take, it's whatever if the metal core was declared on the packaging and the customer didn't notice/pay attention to it, but it's different if it claimed to be completely silicone
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:I have wires permanently bonded to my teeth and I got an MRI just fine yeah, they're titanium which is mostly fine for mri i think?
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i think the person wearing the butt plug to an mri scan is weird, creepy, and deserves mockery. but that's beside the point that, like, their sex toy shouldn't say "100% silicone" if it's not 100% silicone.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:I have wires permanently bonded to my teeth and I got an MRI just fine 2) were you told it was going to be just fine beforehand? i assume the wires used are not ferromagnetic or w/e for probably just such a reason (also airport security lol)
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BooLoo posted:You’re not meant to involve other people in your sex reasons without their consent and an mri is specifically to look inside you. not disagreeing but maybe it was a leg mri or something? or are you saying when i got my knee mri in 2006 they also got a good look at my bits and bobs?
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Kenny Logins posted:1) that's great probably cause they dont want em to rust
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Achmed Jones posted:i think the person wearing the butt plug to an mri scan is weird, creepy, and deserves mockery. but that's beside the point that, like, their sex toy shouldn't say "100% silicone" if it's not 100% silicone.
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rotor posted:probably cause they dont want em to rust
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mystes posted:Does literally every product in the world have to be labelled with whether it contains metal that might not be immediately obvious just because someone might randomly try to take it to an MRI scan? when i’ve gotten an mri i had to stand next to a metal detector before they’d let me in. i always figured that was standard procedure for all mri clinics but maybe not?
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the mri will now be used as a metal detector. it's ok because the savings are passed on to you! freedom to choose
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just make everyone walk backwards into the mri room so if they have a metal butt plug it's pulled out rather than in
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