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You could just not do sweeps and motions that don't look good in animation...
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May 29, 2023 18:26
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M_Gargantua posted:You could just not do sweeps and motions that don't look good in animation... Don't worry, they always seem to forget that motion blur is a thing that exists, so it still looks bad when you're effectively running at 12 fps.
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May 29, 2023 18:37
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CG owns. ive watched bang dream s2/s3 and d4dj and become a believer.
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May 29, 2023 18:38
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Also, the best looking CGI (at least in the anime style) can't compete with high quality 2d animation. Even Arc System works used a whole bunch of tricks that would be impractical for use in a TV show and I think that is the best example of the 3D anime CGI style.
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May 29, 2023 18:39
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Studio Orange ftw
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May 29, 2023 18:42
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Even as good as Studio Orange is I felt a lot of the Trigun Badlands action scenes had trouble any time they had to do moving camera shots that showed off a lot of the location geometry. The sand dunes looked amazing in still shots but the fight with Livio on the sand steamer felt like the characters were floating over the ground like a Bethesda game.
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May 29, 2023 18:47
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9YC6MdzB7s
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May 29, 2023 18:54
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Arc Hammer posted:Even as good as Studio Orange is I felt a lot of the Trigun Badlands action scenes had trouble any time they had to do moving camera shots that showed off a lot of the location geometry. The sand dunes looked amazing in still shots but the fight with Livio on the sand steamer felt like the characters were floating over the ground like a Bethesda game.
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May 29, 2023 19:05
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the oni series written by mari okada looks good imo. it's a hybrid of cgi and stop-motion but the look of it is really nice. i haven't watched it yet, just talkin about the visuals
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May 29, 2023 19:09
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The 7th Guest posted:the oni series written by mari okada looks good imo. it's a hybrid of cgi and stop-motion but the look of it is really nice. i haven't watched it yet, just talkin about the visuals the what? Edit: Ah, Netflix
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May 29, 2023 19:11
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Endorph posted:houseki no kuni I still think 2D animation would look better if done by the right studio with a good production schedule/budget. You can make very good looking CGI anime if the effort is put in, but the quality ceiling is much higher for 2d stuff. (The quality ceiling also only applies if you are explicitly trying to recreate the anime style with CGI. If you play to CGI's strengths you can produce much better looking stuff.) IShallRiseAgain fucked around with this message at 19:20 on May 29, 2023 |
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May 29, 2023 19:16
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genericnick posted:the what?
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May 29, 2023 19:24
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theoretically if you had infinite time and money 3d animation would have no purpose and we could make the thief and the cobbler dx edition by resurrecting richard williams as a strange infinitely generating computer animation that looks like a bad nvidia rtx demo
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May 29, 2023 19:49
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The Colonel posted:theoretically if you had infinite time and money 3d animation would have no purpose and we could make the thief and the cobbler dx edition by resurrecting richard williams as a strange infinitely generating computer animation that looks like a bad nvidia rtx demo
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May 29, 2023 19:53
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IShallRiseAgain posted:I still think 2D animation would look better if done by the right studio with a good production schedule/budget. You can make very good looking CGI anime if the effort is put in, but the quality ceiling is much higher for 2d stuff.
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May 29, 2023 20:32
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really there's things 3d animation can do easier that 2d animation cant even when we're talking about like, 'girls dicking around after school' type stuff. like again d4dj and the later bang dream seasons look great and they use the format for some good jokes or comedic timing. there's a lot of cheapass 3d out there but idk why people insist on comparing like, trigun stampede to the hypothetical perfectly animated 2d show. why arent we comparing it to like, 98 trigun. because that show also looks pretty good but has some cheapo 90s animation shortcuts or obvious b-list episodes where the characters go off model constantly.
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May 29, 2023 20:33
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trigun stampede isnt perfect or anything but it looks better than most seasonals, 2d or 3d. if it was 2d and made at about the same relative level of quality it would also be about as good, because. itd be at the same relative level of quality?
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May 29, 2023 20:35
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYWOG9q2HpI
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May 29, 2023 20:35
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If mocap and rotoscoping counts I've been rewatching Hanebado and that looks awesome. Having a good animation director that knows how to best utilize specific techniques really helps.
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May 29, 2023 20:50
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The 3d version looks better.
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May 29, 2023 20:52
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What we got was fine, but 
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May 29, 2023 20:54
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much like 3d animation, 2d animation also often looks awful. but we're used to when 2d animation looks awful so outside of extreme outliers it doesn't get the same level of nitpicking 3d shows do to try to justify an easy, all purpose blanket opinion
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May 29, 2023 20:57
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yeah 3d suits the series way better
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May 29, 2023 21:03
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Houseki no Kuni only CGi anime that was good. everything else i seen looked bad
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May 29, 2023 21:22
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M_Gargantua posted:You could just not do sweeps and motions that don't look good in animation... i dont think ive seen a 3d sweeping shot in a 2d show that looks good, the euphonium movie they used some 3d during the concert and it was very jarring
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May 29, 2023 21:43
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If I wanted to see 3D objects I’d just go outside.
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May 29, 2023 23:54
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i know 3d anime can look good because i've played hoyoverse games also, Lupin the First
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May 29, 2023 23:59
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galagazombie posted:If I wanted to see 3D objects I’d just go outside. Worrying implications about the interior of your home
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May 29, 2023 23:59
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my house is 4d
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May 30, 2023 00:05
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That third dimension costs extra, have you seen the market prices lately? Gotta take what you can get.
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May 30, 2023 00:10
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Ah, he lives in a flat
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May 30, 2023 00:10
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Fangz posted:Ah, he lives in a flat
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May 30, 2023 00:11
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Fangz posted:Ah, he lives in a flat lmao
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May 30, 2023 00:26
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Fangz posted:Ah, he lives in a flat
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May 30, 2023 00:33
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If you want to do good CG you still have to stick to traditional angles and camera movements. You just use the CG to do what it's good at then have a good post-process filter. Like guilty gear or DBFZ have the right idea, just used in a way designed for fight games.
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May 30, 2023 00:36
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i like 3d animation because it makes a moving camera not a luxury visual tool that vacuums up huge amounts of animator time. moving cameras are great! i'd like to see them more often than once an episode
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May 30, 2023 01:01
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honestly i'd be fine with more CG anime that resembles a lot of the cg shows on netflix, like my dad the bounty hunter, or super robot brothers. they don't all have to be cel shaded 2D imitation
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May 30, 2023 01:16
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Iseleve is pretty much "The MC isekai'd without even having to die, and lived happily ever after with no troubles after episode 1" but decided to stretch it out
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May 30, 2023 01:35
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It'd be more interesting if these isekai with a fat protagonists actually had them remain fat and not magically become a pretty boy. Heck, even having them gradually lose weight to something more healthy would work too. I guess that interferes with the power fantasy though. Its a really hosed up message that you only have value if you are attractive.
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May 30, 2023 02:56
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The 7th Guest posted:i know 3d anime can look good because i've played hoyoverse games yeah, I really liked that 3d lupin, it was incredibly well done and also doesn’t lose any of the charm of the 2d media
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May 30, 2023 03:11
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