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Vise the Stompy posted:Interesting confirmation this chapter Seems there is a form of possessiveness or perception of the target that ties the horseman powers together. Control needs to look down on the target to control. Famine needs them to feel starving to use them, and I bet this extend beyond physical hunger . Finally, War needs to feel affection or fondness towards the item to turn it into a weapon. Its an interesting connection between them. Will be curious to see how Death fits in this. I also wonder if Plague might still be a factor and "replace" Control similar to how is replaced Conquest in the pop-cultures perception of the Horsemen. War and Control’s powers rely on their own perception. But I don’t think that applies to Famine. Famine can control the starving, but starving is a personal state. If I don’t eat all day then I feel starving - it doesn’t depend on external factors or other people’s perceptions.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Not quite. War can turn anything they believe they own into a weapon. The weapon is more powerful depending on affection. I thought the potency depends on guilt rather than affection.
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The famine devil doesn’t want to lose pizza or Chinese food as a motivation is up there with “the chainsaw devil wants to experience a hug”
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Hunt11 posted:Good Omens has the Antichrist fighting against the end of the world and that includes defeating the four horsemen with his friends. In Thief of Time the four horsemen literally ride out to stop yet another attempt to end the world. I was mainly referring to the characters who objectively should be trying to end the world, Crowley & Aziraphale, are actually objectively against it and actively trying to stop it. their reasoning is even the same, they've become so used to the joys of living on earth that they don't want the party to end tho you are factually correct and that's all that matters. in my defense I'm only up to Hogfather
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Oxxidation posted:famine’s power seems especially potent because she turns Falling into a figurine that she can assumedly deploy at will. not even Makima was able to make Primal Fears into Pokémon I mean this makes sense, I imagine hunger being almost on the same level as a primal fear. I'm not sure if "famine" counts as "hunger" but they're almost assuredly quite close, and thus I have to assume Fami at least piggybacks off of fear of hunger. At any rate, I have to imagine "famine" is something scarier to many than being controlled is, as famine will mean you and everyone you know will die a slow and painful death.
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Big Leg posted:this, except when the mysterious unnamed barfing devil made falling devil upset. what a piece of poo poo I hope she doesn't think her cooking is bad now 
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:I was mainly referring to the characters who objectively should be trying to end the world, Crowley & Aziraphale, are actually objectively against it and actively trying to stop it. their reasoning is even the same, they've become so used to the joys of living on earth that they don't want the party to end I didn't think to include them so think we can settle with both being right.
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if there was an age of devils, we'd have no new chapters of chainsaw man
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Justin_Brett posted:I hope she doesn't think her cooking is bad now The Falling Yelp Rating Devil
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:if there was an age of devils, we'd have no new chapters of chainsaw man Terrible. Just terrible.
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I like when some unknowable evil like the Famine Devil and the Control Devil have a crisis over the threat of no more pizza. NO way!! Fujimoto keeps all of his characters no matter how weird very grounded.
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im hoping the next chapter is just nayuta going through a regular day
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Nayuta's the loving best lmao.
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This chapter gave me Fire Punch flashbacks, and yes, Nayuta rules, Denji is such a good influence on her.
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Oxxidation posted:famine’s power seems especially potent because she turns Falling into a figurine that she can assumedly deploy at will. not even Makima was able to make Primal Fears into Pokémon I dunno why but my first thought was it was like some sort of catalyst to summon Falling to Earth but I guess there's no way to know for sure yet. However you're probably right. Until proven otherwise I'm just going to assume that devil was literally The Diner Devil, and it was mostly powered by fights in Waffle House. Hunt11 posted:Good Omens has the Antichrist fighting against the end of the world and that includes defeating the four horsemen with his friends. In Thief of Time the four horsemen literally ride out to stop yet another attempt to end the world. It's been so long since I read that first book I thought I was going crazy reading the comments, but I also kinda assumed there was just another book I hadn't read that made the comments fit. Thanks.
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lmfao this whole chapter kept owning harder page after page how on earth
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New chapter makes me wonder if the funny Fight Club theory I've heard (that Asa and Yoru are the same person) might have some merit. If Fami could actually pull Yoru out of Asa, why did she bother starving Asa anyway?
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Devils up until this point have been partially defined by having overwhelming and intense hunger so it makes sense that famine would be able to control them. That is extremely on theme for devils. War, Control, and Famine all have a running theme with their powers, I wonder what Deaths deal is?
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I'm interested in what Famine would want War to take possession of to use as a weapon if all went to plan. My first guess is that it's a pure power enhancement situation where something or someone is already crazy strong, but War turning them into a weapon makes them/it even stronger. The obvious potential there would be a very strong devil, but it's certainly possible that War's powers don't work on devils (or humans possessed by devils) given that they failed on Denji. It's also certainly possible that War's got way stronger abilities if they're fully powered up and the plan would involve bringing them back to full power. And the idea of bringing back War to a world that's known peace because it's the only way to save the world is inherently interesting. It seems like if that's all they needed to do though, or if making that happen was part of the overall plan, then Famine could've gotten the ball rolling on that a lot on their own already, and as far as I know they haven't. Maybe they need War weak to get them on board, and then once they're on board it's time to cause mega World War 3? Even if they don't get any further powers/abilities, it seems enhancing the fear of War would be helpful no matter what, so I hope we get an explanation for why that War enhancement hasn't happened yet. NowonSA fucked around with this message at 20:54 on May 30, 2023 |
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Elite posted:War and Control’s powers rely on their own perception. But I don’t think that applies to Famine. I think I may have badly worded my thoughts. Horseman have domain over something when they see a certain condition is met. I definitely agree with your assertion it ties into if the individual in question thinks their starving rather than the biological state of starving. So people are going to have different thresholds. Denji would probably be really hard for Famine since he lived so long in absolute poverty his mental tolerance for not having enough to eat could be massive.
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Whirling posted:New chapter makes me wonder if the funny Fight Club theory I've heard (that Asa and Yoru are the same person) might have some merit. If Fami could actually pull Yoru out of Asa, why did she bother starving Asa anyway? Remember they can feel each other emotions/pain so it'd be easier if Asa was starved
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It is interesting how all three of the horsemen we've seen so far have connections with humans that go beyond killing/eating and are more social in nature (control, ownership, and how would you describe it for Famine -- coercion maybe?), which if all goes well could lead to something akin to sympathy (and if it gets twisted into going wrong, you get Makima), so I guess it makes sense that they would be the devils most vested in heading off the apocalypse. I'm very interested in seeing how this also all ties into the earlier mentions of parasocial relationships, Chainsaw Man fandom, and other aspects of human interrelationships that Fujimoto explored so adeptly in the recent one-shots.
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All four horsemen serving as parts of a larger whole that all their defining traits/natures fit into would be fun. Kind of similar in context to how the seven deadly sins all fit into that "sin" category, I'd be interested in what "category" the horsemen would fit into the in the Chainsaw man universe aside from just "is a horseman."
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They were never interested in starting any apocalypses, Nostradamus just saw them showing up as it was happening and blamed them for it. Dick. They don't even have a horse. edit: They've only mentioned Nostradamus so far, right? Maybe in this universe that's where it came from? Chainsaw Man ate the Bible Devil? edit2: oh wait they did show the Gun Devil wrecking a church in Vol. 1, but I guess no guarantees about whether it matches the Christianity we know usenet celeb 1992 fucked around with this message at 22:26 on May 30, 2023 |
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usenet celeb 1992 posted:They were never interested in starting any apocalypses, Nostradamus just saw them showing up as it was happening and blamed them for it. Dick. They don't even have a horse. Isn't real life Nostradamus a huge dumbass?
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Sure, but who isn't a huge dumbass in this series?
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usenet celeb 1992 posted:Sure, but who isn't a huge dumbass in this series? 
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usenet celeb 1992 posted:They don't even have a horse. Denji be a good brother and buy Nayuta a horse.  [Edit] A horse equipped with a sick chainsaw.
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Death devil can probably force deals with near dead people, and can probably gain full control over anything she kills
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death devil, with the power to die!
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when falling is sad, i am sad :(
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usenet celeb 1992 posted:They were never interested in starting any apocalypses, Nostradamus just saw them showing up as it was happening and blamed them for it. Dick. They don't even have a horse.
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I found a fun theory.
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I Am Fowl posted:I found a fun theory. Nayuta says she made the demon's brain think they tasted like poo poo, not that she just made him throw up. Anyway this whole time I thought that mystery demon was the insect demon for some reason, was I wrong?
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Nuebot posted:Nayuta says she made the demon's brain think they tasted like poo poo, not that she just made him throw up. Yes that's the point of the post,that she could've done that (even though I don't think that's the case)
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Devils up until this point have been partially defined by having overwhelming and intense hunger so it makes sense that famine would be able to control them. That is extremely on theme for devils. Extrapolating from the others, clearly they can control the dead. They're a necromancer.
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I think my favorite 'joke theory' that might actually come true is that the Apocalypse takes place at the japanese premier of The Phantom Menance since the time lines kind of line up since the end is supposed to occur in July 1999 and that is when Episode 1 debuted in japan.
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the glup shitto devil
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