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He's hosed. Goddamn. There is no way he gets out of this one.
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Counts 1-31 willful retention of national defense information Count 32 conspiracy to obstruct justice Count 33 withholding a document or record 34 corruptly concealing a document or record 35 concealing a document in a federal investigation 36 scheme to conceal 37 false statements and representations 38 same as above but listed separately
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Jun 9, 2023 19:03
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What's the most charges someone's had for espionage?
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chaoslord posted:https://twitter.com/zoetillman/status/1667227542095273994 38 counts altogether: Counts 1-31: Willful Retention of National Defense Information (18 USC 793e) Count 32: Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice (18 USC 1512(k)) Count 33: Withholding a Document or Record (18 USC 1512(b)(2)A),2) Count 34: Corruptly Concealing a Document or Record (18 USC 1512(c)1),2) Count 35: Concealing a Document in a Federal Investigation (18 USC 1519,2) Count 36: Scheme to Conceal (18 USC 1001(a)(1),2) Count 37: False Statements and Representations (18 USC 1001(1)(2),2) Count 38: False Statements and Representations (18 USC 1001(1)(2))
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Jun 9, 2023 19:06
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Now we just hope that corrupt judge doesn't set a trial date of January 7, 2025.
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Jun 9, 2023 19:10
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Jun 9, 2023 19:13
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Uglycat posted:Max legal penalty? 
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Jun 9, 2023 19:16
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So hes getting at least 20 years? [Ianal aiwhmatl]
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Jun 9, 2023 19:22
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:He's hosed. Goddamn. There is no way he gets out of this one. 
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Jun 9, 2023 19:23
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Because there wasn’t enough time for a full statewide recount at that point. This is only partially true. The time limit was the limit for the 'safe harbor' rule. The counting could have gone past that point with the only harm being that congress could have maybe decided to vote on whether to allow the votes to be counted (they would have). The R's and D's had a plan to conclude the counting and make a final decision that SCOTUS ignored in favor of just declaring a winner.
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Jun 9, 2023 19:25
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What are the odds of ol' Donny boy wriggling out of this one? Better than even?
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I don't think he does honestly. I mean, this is just about literally "HEY I AM CRIMING RIGHT NOW BIGLY BY SHOWING YOU THIS. IT'S A CRIME TO SHOW YOU THIS AND IT FEELS AWESOME TO DO CRIME!"
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Jun 9, 2023 19:27
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Nitrousoxide posted:What are the odds of ol' Donny boy wriggling out of this one? Better than even? Some CHUD marine will detonate a nuke and turn everything into Mad Max. Imorten Don will become president for life.
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Jun 9, 2023 19:28
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Walter Naut finding five eyes intelligence on the floor, photoing it, sending it to another employee via text message and then the other employee suggesting in same text thread that they handed their phone over to trump to see seems bad, but then again…
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Jun 9, 2023 19:29
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Nitrousoxide posted:What are the odds of ol' Donny boy wriggling out of this one? Better than even? it might be helpful to define "wriggling out". is it no consequences whatsoever, or ending up with less severe consequences than if some rando had shared our nuclear secrets for clout? the former is hard for me to believe, the latter seems almost assured
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Jun 9, 2023 19:32
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One of the documents he had was about the US nuclear weapons. 
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Nitrousoxide posted:What are the odds of ol' Donny boy wriggling out of this one? Better than even? I don't know, man. I've been pretty solidly in the "nothing matters" camp, even after the NY stuff. But this one. This one is big and the evidence is like, right there in the open. This might be the one that sticks.
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Jun 9, 2023 19:33
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More like Walter Naut-a going to jail for Trump! 
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ColdPie posted:I don't know, man. I've been pretty solidly in the "nothing matters" camp, even after the NY stuff. But this one. This one is big and the evidence is like, right there in the open. This might be the one that sticks. The thing is other folks too will also be caught in the trap and smart prosecutors will try to get them to flip. There's high chance all the other skeletons in his closet also come falling out. It's going to be an absolute blood bath.
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:The thing is other folks too will also be caught in the trap and smart prosecutors will try to get them to flip. There's high chance all the other skeletons in his closet also come falling out. God I hope so
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God I hope so. It's loving nukes. "My family made billions from the Saudis for ignoring them chopping up a journalist" is bad. "Give me dirt on my political opponent in exchange for Javelins" is bad. Nukes involve the existence of the human race. I'd rather Xi Jin Ping be President of the United States than Donald Trump; at least Xi knows that nukes are serious loving business.
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Jun 9, 2023 19:40
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What I'm hopeful of was the fact that a jury found Trump liable for the sexual assault was the equivalent of blood in the water that causes everything else to descend on him like pirahna, just shreeding him.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:More like Walter Naut-a going to jail for Trump! "Walt, everyone else on his staff has flipped. They are singing like canaries. All you have to do is tell us the truth, we know he's the boss, not you." "Never! He will never squeal. Nor will I!" *At the court case* *Don Trump brought like Goodfellas, in on a wheelchair, mouth covered with mask and a drip hanging nearby* "Your honor, my client, Donald Trump, is an old man, and look too old to be doing these such things. It was all Walter Nauta, he was the boss!"
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:The thing is other folks too will also be caught in the trap and smart prosecutors will try to get them to flip. There's high chance all the other skeletons in his closet also come falling out. And every bit of discovery from all these cases will be public record, along with all the testimony, so, like, having some sense of how the fbi operates, and some sense of how trump operates, i expect the collected evidence to point to additional crimes (many that we've already surmised, but lack a smoking gun for).
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S/FRD means something very specific, in case anyone is wondering https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/hss/Classification/docs/CTI-Training-RD-FRD-Briefing.pdf I wonder what ever in the world he would do with that information 
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Jun 9, 2023 19:46
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This has more of the exchange. Also, the document in question was a military plan to attack a foreign country. https://twitter.com/maritzac/status/1667237546063962130
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The indictment says CANNON/REINHART What does that mean other than that they were both involved previously?
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SirFozzie posted:What I'm hopeful of was the fact that a jury found Trump liable for the sexual assault was the equivalent of blood in the water that causes everything else to descend on him like pirahna, just shreeding him. I'm hoping it's just really fortuitous timing that everything dropped in relatively short time. Not a case of everyone being too cowardly to do their loving jobs, just wanting to make a rock-solid case.
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Boris Galerkin posted:One of the documents he had was about the US nuclear weapons. What does "formerly restricted data" mean in this context? Is it no longer secret? EDIT: answered above
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https://twitter.com/albamonica/status/1667237315901530156 This is just incredible.
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Just taking a poo poo, reading about Iran's military capabilities.
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Mechanical Ape posted:What does "formerly restricted data" mean in this context? Is it no longer secret? Yeah but just in case people don’t wanna click the PowerPoint linked above FRD examples includes: stockpile quantities, weapons safety and storage, weapon yields, and where they are kept
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fishing with the fam posted:Just taking a poo poo, reading about Iran's military capabilities. OUR military capabilities
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Shower beer has been upgraded to shower treason. Also, there should be additional charges for crimes against taste over having a bathroom chandelier.
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Jack Smith press conference stream: https://www.youtube.com/live/M8v6zDlnDFg
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In the bathroom, next to the shitter, below the plumbing pipes amazing
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I'm at the toilet. I'm at the nuclear launch code storage room. I'm at the combination toilet and nuclear launch code storage room.
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