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mystes posted:I'm just pissed because I read a bunch of extremely niche subreddits and if reddit dies I don't think there's going to be any actual replacement because nobody wants to run a forum in 2023 your posting about this in a forum run in 2023
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fart simpson posted:your posting about this in a forum run in 2023 This forum is running in 2023, but can we honestly say that the people that are running it want to be running it?
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Jeffery seems to sleep soundly at night, during the day, other not covered times
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fart simpson posted:here’s a dollar kid, buy yourself a better equity there were a couple of greybeards there who were forced to exercise their options when they hit the ten year mark. it wasn't pretty
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i honestly don't know how anyone finds discords for anything except via links in a niche ghost-town reddit dedicated to a topic
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There's theoretically a centralized list of public discords but I think most servers don't use it because being listed results in a ton more spam/trolls than using invite links
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Internet Janitor posted:i honestly don't know how anyone finds discords for anything except via links in a niche ghost-town reddit dedicated to a topic then you ask people on that one for other discords
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hobbesmaster posted:then you ask people on that one for other discords
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discord is interesting in that, as angry as saying it will make people, basically irc for 2023 in function. and that was with an intervening almost two decades where a normal person would not have used such a thing. so maybe forums can be revived as well, there's certainly a similar tech gap, all avaliable forum software is janky as hell.
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mystes posted:It's like doing an old school p2p protocol by hand webrings, but the site just says "email this guy for a link to the next site in the ring"
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hobbesmaster posted:then you ask people on that one for other discords yeah but being socially anxious i never do that so discord is just a black hole to me.
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mystes posted:kicking out the moderators who are protesting or preventing them from making the subreddits private would be lovely sounds cool
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mystes posted:allowing users to just randomly oust mods for any reason is just loving insane works for SA
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goblin week posted:works for SA SA is pretty insane, to be fair
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Eeyo posted:yeah but being socially anxious i never do that so discord is just a black hole to me. what i hate more than anything about discord is that it makes it impossible to passively obtain information; you have to leave a paper trail just to read the equivalent of a wiki for some tool or game that decided to put everything on discord
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goblin week posted:works for SA what’s the “days since mod ouster for being a pedo” counter at?
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mystes posted:on reddit there's no way to distinguish actual users of a subreddit in the first place so even if you theoretically wanted to have some process for the active users of a subreddit to vote to oust a mod there's no way to even determine who they are nah, you can make a pretty simple standard like "have made X posts in the sub that are older than Y interval at the time of the vote". this will cut out all the lurkers and allow all the people who used to be active but burned out but it's probably a pretty good proxy for "directly contributes to the sub's value as a community and knowledge node" of course reddit isn't actually going to put even the five seconds of thought I did into it
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haveblue posted:it's probably a pretty good proxy for "directly contributes to the sub's value as a community and knowledge node" nice, you've done it, you found the technical solution to this social problem
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imo the posters should own the means of posting.
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for me the problem with new discords that i join is that there will be some kind of activity going on in the main channel, and they'll welcome you, and you'll talk a bit, but then you quickly have nothing to say anymore. and then the discord just sits there in that huge column of discords you have access to idk maybe i should just be more active in some of them, but others i joined just for one link or bit of information, and i don't want to leave, because i'd have to be invited again if i needed that thing again
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Mr. Nice! posted:medicare is not medicaid. she's talking about future medicare which she will probably not get
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haveblue posted:nah, you can make a pretty simple standard like "have made X posts in the sub that are older than Y interval at the time of the vote". this will cut out all the lurkers and allow all the people who used to be active but burned out but it's probably a pretty good proxy for "directly contributes to the sub's value as a community and knowledge node"
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MrMoo posted:https://tickrmeter.com/ These are rad, I kind of want to use them but feed my own data and indicators in.
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EricBauman posted:for me the problem with new discords that i join is that there will be some kind of activity going on in the main channel, and they'll welcome you, and you'll talk a bit, but then you quickly have nothing to say anymore. and then the discord just sits there in that huge column of discords you have access to that’s how forums and such work too though
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maybe discord should just let you "archive" servers or something. so you're still joined it just doesn't show up in the list of servers.
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i don't know that discord should *really* cater to the "the faq is on discord" use case. in that it is bad. and discord is all around pretty good.
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e: oops
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modifying a functional tool to suit people who are using it improperly is a great way to make a lovely tool that doesn't work for anyone. that said, i've never used discord, so i have no idea if this applies
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Internet Janitor posted:i honestly don't know how anyone finds discords for anything except via links in a niche ghost-town reddit dedicated to a topic people. websites come and go. apps come and go. social media services come and go. but for as long as you are alive, there will always be people. (unless something has gone irreversibly wrong.) talk to them, ask them for directions, and they’ll help out people are at the core of it all, so delve down to the source and hold onto it. get names, emails, phone numbers, contact info, etc. we think too much of accounts and timelines and forget their precursors.
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yeah, active discords is a really social phenomena, hard to find by like searching the web randomly, but accumulate quick if you're already talking to the right people. one small joy for me is that there's a good reasonably active apl/k/j/q/bqn array programming discord, which is a subject obscure enough that the subreddit is basically tumbleweeds
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Yep I think I've mentioned it before in this thread, but if the internet does get overrun by LLM detritus and ads to the point where its one function is gone, any "information exchange" is going to have to happen in private internets and right now that seems to be Discords, and the renaissance of non-searchable, non-indexed info, aka, talking to people, word of mouth spread, and invite-only communities. It requires a fundamental shift from the expectations we have today of easy and instant access to answers, back to recognizing people as the source.
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and to be clear, for not at all elitist reasons: that's good. e: armitag3 got in between with a better post to the same effect
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Armitag3 posted:Yep I think I've mentioned it before in this thread, but if the internet does get overrun by LLM detritus and ads to the point where its one function is gone, any "information exchange" is going to have to happen in private internets mike pondsmith was prescient
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infernal machines posted:mike pondsmith was prescient Well Discord still uses THE internet to function, but yeah, don't actually try to use it directly or you'll be torn to shreds by the light-speed spam barrage of bots trying to scam other bots
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in traditional fashion the future is much less exciting and far more banal than the fiction of it we killed the internet with adtech not R.A.B.I.D.S. and it's just kinda mildly annoying and useless rather than actually lethal, but the idea's the same
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infernal machines posted:modifying a functional tool to suit people who are using it improperly is a great way to make a lovely tool that doesn't work for anyone. discord has forums built in now so yes it applies
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there’s a reason it’s called speculative fiction
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I think some of the subreddits I'm on, like a local biking one which has maybe one post or day or less depending on the season, don't have enough users to actually support a discord even the best thing about reddit was how frictionless it made creating subreddits for stuff like that, but of course that came in exchange for not having any control over it
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