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SyntheticPolygon posted:Its comedy so there need to be quips. Thems the rules Yup!
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The quips must flow.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I feel the same way. The One Piece anime is not great. At least pacing-wise, it's very daunting. It's hard to recommend it to people, unlike something like Cowboy Bebop. So if this show is decent enough, it could encourage anime/manga likes who are put off by the anime to read the manga! It was great for several hundred episodes! There's pacing charts and stuff, it was truly respectable in pace for a long time. But I know even that style of 2 chapters an ep etc might take more of a chill relaxed pace taste than the recent adaptations like One Punch Man etc. But it's worth getting into that style I'd say. For me I always recommend people give the anime a try, and the manga for sure. I've rewatched the early stuff and it's so drat good, I actually do enjoy say the Luffy meeting Zoro arc of Romance Dawn a bit more in the anime version. It's just so darn cool the way they adapted it. And the music, the voice acting, loving masterpiece I'd say. As for the Netflix trailer, it's not making me feel too bad, doesn't offend me or anything. And there's a dash of wonder and some of the One Piece flavor, but I don't think I need to watch it necessarily. But never say never. Indeed hopefully it brings in some new fans.
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Specifically it's a rom-com
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Countblanc posted:i just dont get why theres quips. like, surely they saw the negative backlash bebop got for having marvel dialogue, why do it here too Writer's Perspective: They're easy to write. Writing comedy is legitimately really hard, so easy comedy lines that are multi-purpose (quips can characterise someone as difficult to startle or easy-going in tense situations or can imply all sorts of relationships between characters) are an easy fallback for a non-confident writing team. Banker's Perspective: Capitalism does not breed innovation. Copying the successful thing guarantees us success. Marvel does it and Marvel is successful, so we'll do it too.
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oddium posted:oda asked me to enjoy the live action one piece and i will try
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I gotta see a gum gum gatling or the headbutt vs kuro
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GruntMountain posted:Writer's Perspective: They're easy to write. Writing comedy is legitimately really hard, so easy comedy lines that are multi-purpose (quips can characterise someone as difficult to startle or easy-going in tense situations or can imply all sorts of relationships between characters) are an easy fallback for a non-confident writing team. quips are easy because you find the right character to say the emotional response the audience is supposed to have
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anime was right posted:quips are easy because you find the right character to say the emotional response the audience is supposed to have *visibly pauses for laughs*
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That trailer makes it look like the most extremely slightly-below-average thing I've ever seen. Just the absolute epitome of 4.9 out of 10.
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honestly what im dreading the most are the gumo gumo scenes, that did NOT look good
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I’m gonna watch it and I’m gonna like it. Sorry, everyone.
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Nuebot posted:I do not like this live action one piece Good news, you won't have to not like it for very long!
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Jun 18, 2023 01:26
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Shanks, soon: well, that happened.
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Will all be forgiven if "yo ho ho, he took a bite of gum gum" appears as a piece of spoken dialogue?
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The Lord of the Coast? Yeah right. That overgrown garden eel couldn't bite off a finger, let alone an arm. [awkward pause] Aaaand he's right behind me, isn't he?
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I think it’ll be a decent enough adaptation but a bad show. The highest budget fan film.
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my opinion now is the same as it was before the trailer which is i want them to stick the sets and props into a theme park section and let me visit it
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in fact they shouldve just spent the 150 million on that
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Bebop was bad, but it's way better than people give it credit for. Compared to the original? Terrible. As a stand alone sci-fi show? Eh, perfectly watchable and fun at moments. Imagine this will be ok, but gently caress does it have an uphill battle. Few worrying things: - Choice to start the trailer with Luffy just vaguely saying 'the sea is calling him' instead of Roger's lines is a little worrying. It's broader, but 'i want to be wet' is not Luffy's dream, and making the first impression is a miss. - No cuts to any of the really interesting/fun stuff from the first chapters. No cut to Gaimon? Or anyone else on Buggy's crew? - Feels really hollow, as every shot is either distant or a close up of 1-2 people. Hope there's crowds, this is a vibrant world dammit. - Gum gum works better when you don't have to think of it being flesh. - Quips, god dammit Sets look incredible, the Luffy seems fun. The overall feel reminds me a lot of a Series of Unfortunate Events/Bebop, which makes me wonder if the same people are behind them, outside of them both being Netflix.
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Gaimon will not be in it for several reasons lmao, not least among them that he's a complete one-off character. I love him, but his chapter is a bizarre digression
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No Urogue no cry
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Arist posted:Gaimon will not be in it for several reasons lmao, not least among them that he's a complete one-off character. I love him, but his chapter is a bizarre digression I think the Gaimon chapter accomplishes a couple things: 1: Establishing that there's just really weird people/creatures in this world 2: Establishes that Luffy will invite anyone that interests him into the crew even if they aren't strong fighter types
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Not showing Mohji, Cabaji, and mostly importantly Richie is an unforgivable crime.
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CatstropheWaitress posted:The overall feel reminds me a lot of a Series of Unfortunate Events/Bebop, which makes me wonder if the same people are behind them, outside of them both being Netflix. They're (One Piece and Cowboy Bebop) both produced by Tomorrow Studios and have Marty Adelstein as executive producers, but outside of that a scan of the Wikipedia pages for both doesn't recover any names in common. E: I didn't realise that the One Piece show was filmed here in Cape Town. Neat.
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I can’t believe this show has the foul, dreaded, “quip’
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Ryaomon posted:aaaaaaand the sea king is right behind me isnt he
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[arlong holding up zoro with a cockney accent (all fishmen have cockney accent)] bloody hell this guy is really bloody, hell
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Voxx posted:[arlong holding up zoro with a cockney accent (all fishmen have cockney accent)] bloody hell this guy is really bloody, hell drat I didn’t know 4Kids was writing this
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why didn't they do this as a single, handheld camera sitcom, a la The Office? Gomu Gomu no Pistol! * Luffy mugs to the camera *
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Arist posted:Gaimon will not be in it for several reasons lmao, not least among them that he's a complete one-off character. I love him, but his chapter is a bizarre digression Pretty much what the other guy said, but a lot of OP's charm is the creative stupid-ness of the world and how sincerely Oda embraces that. Basically that whole meme about how Oda makes outwardly stupid characters (the guy in Donflamingo's crew who wears baby clothes) but then gives them a heart-wrenching background story. I can't think of another comic series that pulls it off as well. Just hoping the Netflix show doesn't shrug that goofiness off.
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Drakkel posted:I think the Gaimon chapter accomplishes a couple things: It also establishes what the Grand Line even is and basically lays out the entire geography (oceanography?) of the setting as a whole. Granted, you could move that part basically anywhere and it probably wouldn't affect all that much.
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I have my doubts about the quality of the show, but I'm glad it exists for the sake of that shot of Buggy, lol. The Gum Gum special effect also looked surprisingly good.
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arm stretch technology has not improved at all since the michael jordan stretch in space jam. it's exactly the same
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Okay, casting's good, action looked decent, cgi is alright, sets look good. Buggy was on screen for one second and stole the show, which is how a Buggy do. It could be worse, it could be a lot worse.
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One Piece Live Action Thread: It could have been worse.
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So what's wrong with quips? I mean, sure, they're rote and kind of conventional at this point, but if they do their job, who cares? They're not naturalistic at all, and I can see how they'd take you out of a serious drama or something, but One Piece really does not need naturalistic dialog. It doesn't need quips specifically, but for this new thing, I don't know why it specifically needs to not adhere to these other apparently successful genre conventions.
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