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CelticPredator posted:Oh honey These videos made realise that all these early 2010s Fan Schneider shows are not unlike It's Always Sunny in that the characters are absolutely terrible human beings that only get away with poo poo because they're the protagonists, but without the self-awareness. And somehow no one working on them realise that Arianna Grande is the most talented. Nihonniboku posted:Like the iCarly reboot, I don't know who this is aimed at. I imagine the humor is still as bad as the original, so it doesn't really appeal to adults, and the cast are all in their 30s/40s now, so they won't appeal to preteens, like the original audience. The audience is absolutely their now-adult fans. From what I saw of the revival, it's basically the same show but now with jokes about sex and parenting. They even brought back minor characters from the old show, like a crazy stalker who once kidnapped Carly and her friends. The MSJ fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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CelticPredator posted:Oh honey Both of these videos are about the original series.
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Adults now are interested in that weird poo poo
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Couldn't care less about iCarly because I'm too old, but Jennette McCurdy's memoir was a really good read. Her mom was a real piece of poo poo. It had a lack of Dan Schneider stories, but I guess the less said about that sick freak the better.
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King Vidiot posted:Couldn't care less about iCarly because I'm too old, but Jennette McCurdy's memoir was a really good read. Her mom was a real piece of poo poo. Probably a combination of not wanting to deal with those memories and being worried about legal repercussions
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Prominent abs, leg spread with crotch towards camera. Yep, they know the appeal of ATJ at least. 
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The MSJ posted:Prominent abs, leg spread with crotch towards camera. Yep, they know the appeal of ATJ at least. 
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Wondering how much the original artist got paid for that. Just kidding, I know they didn't.
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Terminal case of anime.
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Conan The King imagery at its most basic. Disappointing.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Conan The King imagery at its most basic. Disappointing. Conan didn't invent the concept of a barbarian king.
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Gripweed posted:Conan didn't invent the concept of a barbarian king. I mean, he basically did to modern audiences, unless you think that people are reading ancient Roman writings.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I mean, he basically did to modern audiences, unless you think that people are reading ancient Roman writings. Like, yeah? I'm pretty sure ancient Roman writings are, after the bible, the biggest inspiration for all Western fiction? I mean, you use the word "modern" there and literally one of the defining characteristics of the literal Modern Era was the rediscovery of ancient Roman and Greek writings. I really cannot stress enough how important ancient Roman writings are to our modern culture. You don't even have to actually read the writings themselves to be influenced by them because they are so encoded in the DNA of the media you consume. edit: And even if we do accept your argument that Conan the Barbarian was a rediscovery of ancient Roman culture on par with the Renaissance, that also means that the Kraven poster pose is simply echoing an ancient character archetype. Gripweed fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Jun 22, 2023 |
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Gripweed posted:Like, yeah? I'm pretty sure ancient Roman writings are, after the bible, the biggest inspiration for all Western fiction? I mean, you use the word "modern" there and literally one of the defining characteristics of the literal Modern Era was the rediscovery of ancient Roman and Greek writings. 
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Sorry, Gripweed, you have been thoroughly owned. But yeah, the point is not the ur source of inspiration, it's the modern reference point for your average person.
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feedmyleg posted:Sorry, Gripweed, you have been thoroughly owned. Judging from the returns on the latest Conan movie, no it’s not.
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That’s not how… anything works.
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was konosuba the one that the writer of Pulp Fiction gave five stars cause his daughter dragged him into it
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Uh excuse me the devonian emergence from the sea was far more impactful on modern western literature than the classical period of Rome. I mean, scoff, you wouldn't even have had Rome without land animals.
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Aphrodite posted:That’s not how… anything works. For it to be the reference point for the “average” person, that would require the average person to be familiar enough with Conan lore to know he becomes a king. I would posit that is not the case. People may know the name and image of Conan the Barbarian, but little beyond that. Baron von Eevl posted:Uh excuse me the devonian emergence from the sea was far more impactful on modern western literature than the classical period of Rome. I mean, scoff, you wouldn't even have had Rome without land animals. That has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
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Nerdietalk posted:was konosuba the one that the writer of Pulp Fiction gave five stars cause his daughter dragged him into it what the gently caress https://twitter.com/AVARY/status/1196117244134096896?s=20
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yes, and yes
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Konasuba is a pretty popular comedy series about a group of adventurers who are all terrible people. So like it’s always sunny in Philadelphia, but fantasy and about as horny
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Gripweed posted:For it to be the reference point for the “average” person, that would require the average person to be familiar enough with Conan lore to know he becomes a king. I would posit that is not the case. People may know the name and image of Conan the Barbarian, but little beyond that. What? The 80's film was extremely popular, and is definitely the primary point of reference most people would have. And it ends with this exact image, as a narrator explains that he "becomes king by his own hand." It's not a deep cut. In fact, I'd argue that "Arnold as Conan on a throne" is one of the most iconic images from that movie. And that it's evoked on purpose in other media all the time: e.g. Jason Momoa, who literally played Conan, as both Khal Drogo and as Aquaman. Dwayne Johnson in Scorpion King, or in Black Adam. You could argue Killmonger from Black Panther or Thor or The Northman contain visual references, God of War or Skyrim. The 80's Conan heavily influenced what a "barbarian king" would or should look like in visual media, and I don't think it's coincidental. I don't disagree with your broader claim that classical literature heavily informs Western fiction, but the argument that 2000-year-old Roman writings are as directly responsible for modern writing feels incredibly reductive. For one, the Viking age happened centuries after the fall of western Rome; the image of a barbarian as an unstoppably violent monster-man obsessed with rape and conquest probably has more to do with that era.
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You can't tell me that's not Jeff Garlin.
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Xealot posted:What? The 80's film was extremely popular, and is definitely the primary point of reference most people would have. And it ends with this exact image, as a narrator explains that he "becomes king by his own hand." It's not a deep cut. I think maybe there’s only so many ways you can depict a barbarian king on a throne. He’s sitting on a throne because he’s king, but he’s a barbarian so he’s sitting without proper posture. Probably in a way which denotes violence or showcases physical strength. How do you do that in a way that you wouldn’t call derivative of Conan? You say Conan is the average person’s reference, but then mention that pose happens in Black Panther and Aquaman, two films which were much bigger hits than Conan, and also, unlike Conan, aren’t older than most human beings currently alive. Sure Conan was very influential. No one is denying that. But to say that Conan somehow owns the image of a buff guy sitting on a throne is simply absurd. Xealot posted:I don't disagree with your broader claim that classical literature heavily informs Western fiction, but the argument that 2000-year-old Roman writings are as directly responsible for modern writing feels incredibly reductive. For one, the Viking age happened centuries after the fall of western Rome; the image of a barbarian as an unstoppably violent monster-man obsessed with rape and conquest probably has more to do with that era. An excellent example of the barbarian king archetype predating Conan! Gripweed fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Jun 22, 2023 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:Konasuba is a pretty popular comedy series about a group of adventurers who are all terrible people. God if I remember the stories about it right, this was Avary's first experience with any anime and just. The picture of going into a such a self-referential anime comedy making fun of anime fantasies, with no experience with any of the standard expectations of that medium and genre is just. So funny to me. I don't have a source on that, but I want it to be true desperately.
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El Jeffe posted:You can't tell me that's not Jeff Garlin. Beardless Galifanakis is only the most obvious weird thing about this movie. Wait until I tell you it's directed by Al Gore's daughter and her husband, the guy from OK Go
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Is that another movie about a product like Air? Is there a name for this trend?
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El Jeffe posted:You can't tell me that's not Jeff Garlin. 
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Mister Chief posted:Is that another movie about a product like Air? I'm also probably missing something but those are the ones that have definitely come out this year.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Not specifically, but RLM was talking about it recently. Just this year alone we've had movies about Air Jordans, Flamin' Hot Cheetos, the Blackberry, and Tetris Barbie?
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Eh, Barbie isn't a "based on a true story" thing like those other ones. It's just a movie based on Barbie.
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