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lol I got the Tom Lathrop translation of the entire work (both Parts 1 and 2) and have started the introduction but am focusing on finishing my current brick first.
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I'll try to read don quijote over the summer since I haven't read it yet, but I also have plans to read the morning star and man without qualities, so we'll see how this goes
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I have this poster on my office wall: quote:Artist Fernando Reza, who also did these cool TV Band posters, asked the question, "What If?" What if Stanley Kubrick finished Napoleon? What is Orson Welles finished Don Quixote? And he answered those questions with his new set of film posters called The Ones That Got Away; Four posters including those two aforementioned films as well as Alfred Hitchcock's Kaleidoscope and David Lean's Nostromo. https://www.slashfilm.com/513136/cool-stuff-ones-away-posters/ quote:On June 29, 1957, after having been removed from his own film Touch of Evil, Welles headed to Mexico City to begin work on the feature-length version of Don Quixote.[7] The part of Don Quixote had been offered to Charlton Heston, who had just finished filming Touch of Evil with Welles, and Heston was keen on playing the role, but was only available for two weeks, which Welles feared would be insufficient. Spanish actor Francisco Reiguera was cast as Don Quixote and Akim Tamiroff remained as Sancho Panza.[4] Welles also brought in child actress Patty McCormack to play Dulcie, an American girl visiting Mexico City as the city's central framing device. During her visit, Dulcie would encounter Welles (playing himself) in a hotel lobby, on the hotel patio and in a horse-drawn carriage, and he would tell her the story of Don Quixote. She would then meet Don Quixote and Sancho Panza in the present day, and would later tell Welles of her adventures with them.[4] The things Orson Welles did to finance this movie! The quixotic things! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvxwf1jxdaM https://lithub.com/10-reflections-on-orson-welles-drunken-champagne-commercial-outtakes/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ixt_t46k4Q quote:The Transformers: The Movie is the final film featuring Orson Welles.[16] Welles spent the day of October 5, 1985, performing Unicron's voice on set, and died on October 10.[17] Slate reported that his "voice was apparently so weak by the time he made his recording that technicians needed to run it through a synthesizer to salvage it".[17] Shin stated that Welles had originally been pleased to accept the role after reading the script and had expressed an admiration for animated films.[5] Shortly before his death, Welles told his biographer, Barbara Leaming, "You know what I did this morning? I played the voice of a toy. I play a planet. I menace somebody called Something-or-other. Then I'm destroyed. My plan to destroy Whoever-it-is is thwarted and I tear myself apart on the screen. All because he wanted to fund his Don Quixote movie. That he never finished.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I have this poster on my office wall: Not sure whether this would be a Quixotic endeavor or more a white whale situation ulvir posted:I'll try to read don quijote over the summer since I haven't read it yet, but I also have plans to read the morning star and man without qualities, so we'll see how this goes I am also not promising to have it finished by month's end, as I will also be driving across the continent and back starting next week. Good thing these BotMs are in a never ending thread!
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Considering a Cormac McCarthy novel for next months BotM
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Jun 16, 2023 00:50
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All the Pretty Horses for broadest appeal on the westerns. No country for old men for best conversation. Th e Road for bleakest movie tie in
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Jun 18, 2023 00:06
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Do Suttree (cuz I haven’t read it yet)
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Jun 18, 2023 00:13
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I would love to read Suttree as the next BotM
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My memories say DQ was very good. One of my favorite books from decades ago.
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Jun 27, 2023 23:15
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July's Book of the Month will be Suttree, by the late Cormac McCarthy! quote:This compelling novel has as its protagonist Cornelius Suttree, living alone and in exile in a disintegrating houseboat on the wrong side of the Tennessee River close by Knoxville. He stays at the edge of an outcast community inhabited by eccentrics, criminals and the poverty-stricken. Rising above the physical and human squalor around him, his detachment and wry humour enable him to survive dereliction and destitution with dignity. As usual, read at your own pace, post thoughts, questions, comments, whatever here for discussion! I often live blog my way through books and likely will again here (using spoilers of course!). Enjoy this month's offering!
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So Suttree is amazing and I would recommend you all getting both the audio version and a reading version. The character of Gene Harrogate is brought to life by Richard Poe on the audio version and you will laugh your rear end off. I will be annoying the hell out of everybody throughout that thread and re-reading it with you all. edit: Scribd has the audio version and you can get a free month long trial (and if you threaten to cancel, they'll offer you an extra month... so 2 free months) escape artist fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Jul 3, 2023 |
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wait is this a cormac mccarthy book that isn't unutterably sad I thought the title was Suttee
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:wait is this a cormac mccarthy book that isn't unutterably sad quote:I thought the title was Suttee
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Jul 5, 2023 00:35
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Gonna get me a nice watermelon and sit down with the audiobook tonight. I suggest y'all do the same.
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Oh weird I was just popping in. Suttree is my favorite novel and I'm currently about 3/5 of the way through. Probably finish it up again today.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:wait is this a cormac mccarthy book that isn't unutterably sad lol
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so when I said I listened to Richard Poe's version, I was wrong. I listened to Michael Kramer's version! I am listening to Richard Poe's version on Scribd now and I am intrigued to hear how Gene's character sounds. also: "A world beyond all fantasy, malevolent and tactile and dissociate, the blown lightbulbs like shorn polyps semitranslucent and skullcolored bobbing blindly down and spectral eyes of oil and now and again the beached and stinking forms of foetal humans bloated like young birds mooneyed and bluish or stale gray. Beyond in the dark the river flows in a sluggard ooze toward southern seas, running down out of the rain flattened corn and petty crops and riverloam gardens of upcountry land keepers, grating along like bonedust, afreight with the past, dreams dispersed in the water someway, nothing ever lost. Houseboats ride at their hawsers. The neap mud along the shore lies ribbed and slick like the cavernous flitch of some beast hugely foundered and beyond the country rolls away to the south and the mountains. Where hunters and woodcutters once slept in their boots by the dying light of their thousand fires and went on, old teutonic forebears with eyes incandesced by the visionary light of a massive rapacity, wave on wave of the violent and the insane, their brains stoked with spoorless analogues of all that was, lean aryans with their abrogate semitic chapbook reenacting the dramas and parables therein and mindless and pale with a longing that nothing save dark’s total restitution could appease." I mean come on. Are you loving kidding me? What a mesmerizing, entrancing use of language escape artist fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Jul 9, 2023 |
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So far it’s mostly been as bleak as expected, but there was one section that made me laugh out loud for the first time in a McCarthy work. When you see a profound passage like “The crimes of the moonlight melonmounter followed him as crimes will,” you know something good is sure to follow.
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Jul 8, 2023 18:33
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Picking this up from the library soon, can't wait!!!
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Just the first three pages in and wow, I think I am really going to love this
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I do believe that man is reading that book
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AngusPodgorny posted:So far it’s mostly been as bleak as expected, but there was one section that made me laugh out loud for the first time in a McCarthy work. When you see a profound passage like “The crimes of the moonlight melonmounter followed him as crimes will,” you know something good is sure to follow. Everything with Harrogate is hilarious. Easily McCarthy's funniest character.
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Suttree is one of my favorite books of all time just for the part in the opening where it describes a cat walking between fenceposts in the shadows as "cat and countercat". I think about that sentence more than any other in the english language.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:wait is this a cormac mccarthy book that isn't unutterably sad No no, there are still lots of tragic moments that hit impossibly hard, just there are also some goddamn hilarious moments too. escape artist posted:Gonna get me a nice watermelon and sit down with the audiobook tonight. I suggest y'all do the same. Lol  Danger posted:Suttree is one of my favorite books of all time just for the part in the opening where it describes a cat walking between fenceposts in the shadows as "cat and countercat". I think about that sentence more than any other in the english language. For me there's a line like that, I can't remember the specifics of it, but it was something like 'Suttree walking drunkenly toward his reflection drunkenly walking.' Just absolutely genius-level for how well it describes a reflection. My version is poo poo but if anyone comes across the real version of that line, can you post it in the thread? I don't have my copy of the book handy. Eason the Fifth fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Jul 12, 2023 |
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Danger posted:Suttree is one of my favorite books of all time just for the part in the opening where it describes a cat walking between fenceposts in the shadows as "cat and countercat". I think about that sentence more than any other in the english language. Ha, also one of my favorite lines and the one that made me buy it right away after sampling the first however many pages.
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He's just so capable of creating a place of scene with relatively few, but gorgeous, words. Its one of the things I loved about Blood Meridian too, how lovingly the landscape was described, making the dialogues flow within a well centered location within my mindscape I'm not sure if I'm really capable of describing what I mean, probably time to go back to school and get a lit degree!
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I read Suttree last year so I won’t be reading along, but just want send words of encouragement to anyone who is faltering at the beginning. It took me, I think, three attempts over some years before I got past pg. 50. I’ll also say it has my favorite final sentence of any book. Final lines don’t tend to stay in my mind but that one will.
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I’m regretting not reading on kindle so I can copy and paste as I go. Just so many genius passages just out of nowhere he hits you with something (when looking 👀 get the old pictures: The landscapes, old backdrops, redundant too, recurring unchanged as if they inhabited another medium than the dry pilgrims shored up on them. Blind Mobil in the earths map cast up in an eye link between becoming and done. I am, I am. Also not a direct quote but the passage of suttree going out and getting shitfaced and waking up hungover was impressionistic in how I felt maybe a little too well what that was like
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Just read the episode of Harrogate in prison, so funny The contrast between Suttree and the other prisoners is really stark despite it not being strongly emphasized in the text. A master class of writing
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Proust Malone posted:Also not a direct quote but the passage of suttree going out and getting shitfaced and waking up hungover was impressionistic in how I felt maybe a little too well what that was like I must've read Suttree 15 years ago and that still sticks with me
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I'm about a third of the way through the book and I'm loving it. There was an unintentional bit of comedy when McCarthy is describing the scene when Suttree is on the train and its all dreary and dark and the last line of the paragraph is something to the effect of "and the rain fell into a freshly dug grave" which to me was hilarious because you just got done reading this long paragraph of how depressing everything was and then just as a kind of last kick to the feels he's gotta add "oh yeah and somebody's DEAD TOO!" Idk thats probably just me but it got a laugh. edit: Harrowgate killing the pig was so visceral and disgusting I had to take a break. Fantastic scene writing though Arson Daily fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Jul 14, 2023 |
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Arson Daily posted:I'm about a third of the way through the book and I'm loving it. There was an unintentional bit of comedy when McCarthy is describing the scene when Suttree is on the train and its all dreary and dark and the last line of the paragraph is something to the effect of "and the rain fell into a freshly dug grave" which to me was hilarious because you just got done reading this long paragraph of how depressing everything was and then just as a kind of last kick to the feels he's gotta add "oh yeah and somebody's DEAD TOO!" Idk thats probably just me but it got a laugh. I just read this scene and visceral. Yes. Literally. I was reminded of the knife fight scenes in the border books where the violence feels the same way. Have you guys ever been knocked out in a fight? Or boxed or whatever? There’s this odd sense of peace in the senselessness of it where once there was this high tension of anxiety and anger and fear then all at once the ground. Full sensual experience of how rough and hot the concrete is. That’s what the violence in these novels elicits for me.
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Arson Daily posted:I'm about a third of the way through the book and I'm loving it. There was an unintentional bit of comedy when McCarthy is describing the scene when Suttree is on the train and its all dreary and dark and the last line of the paragraph is something to the effect of "and the rain fell into a freshly dug grave" which to me was hilarious because you just got done reading this long paragraph of how depressing everything was and then just as a kind of last kick to the feels he's gotta add "oh yeah and somebody's DEAD TOO!" Idk thats probably just me but it got a laugh. Not suttree, but this happened to me watching The Pacific. For like 3 episodes this group of Marines are fighting and dying in Tarawa and Pelileu, just the most gruesome poo poo ever, then Sledge gets a letter from home that says his dog died. It was played sad in the show but I laughed so hard I almost cried because of exactly the reason you describe here.
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Proust Malone posted:I just read this scene and visceral. Yes. Literally. I was reminded of the knife fight scenes in the border books where the violence feels the same way. The fight at the end of Cities of the Plain made me very queasy. I can’t recall another book doing that to me before.
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Jul 14, 2023 20:37
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Wish my copy would get to the library soon. 🫠
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Does zlib work again?
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it's available on Scribd if you want to do a free 30 day trial
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quote:How surely are the dead beyond death. Death is what the living carry with them. A state of dread, like some uncanny foretaste of a bitter memory. But the dead do not remember and nothingness is not a curse. Far from it. I’ve never really connected with any of McCarthy’s characters. The plots aren’t what I’m here for. It’s this these little prose poems tucked in here and there.
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Well I just finished. This is my first of his pre-Blood Meridian books. It takes place across the mountain from where I grew up, so it was a much more familiar setting. Suttree even cries in the ABC store in my hometown. A very good book. Downright hilarious at times. Harrogate is an amazing character. But so much darkness as well.
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