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Thought for sure there might be some news last night. I don't want anyone to rush but I hope we hear something soon
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Happy Landfill posted:Thought for sure there might be some news last night. I don't want anyone to rush but I hope we hear something soon Barbie movie isn't out for another couple weeks, I assume they're dropping info to coincide
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Soonmot posted:I have now finished this thread and have nothing left but the wait for Alecto. My buddy, who's also terminally online, was delighted as I sent her the memes and fan art from this thread that she saw when they were fresh. A pal (heh) has been sending me some safe stuff as well. Mostly of Cam and Pal because they are cool and good and my friends.
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silvergoose posted:Barbie movie isn't out for another couple weeks, I assume they're dropping info to coincide Oh god, I hope so 
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"All I can say is that it was complicated back in Canaan House, and sometimes a cute older girl shows you a lot of attention, because she's bored or whatever, and you sort of have this maybe-flirting maybe-not thing going, right, and then it turns out she's an ancient warrior who's killed all your friends and she's coming for you, and then you both die and she turns up ages later in the broiling heat on a sacred space station and like, it's complicated. Just saying it happens all the time." Like the speaker, I am also a bit puzzled, but what a ride.
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Jul 7, 2023 03:29
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silvergoose posted:One of the best run on sentences I've ever read. And she doesn't even know it's her mom at the steering wheel yet.
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Relistening to harrow (mostly cause of you dawgstar) and oh my fuckin lord Moira's Mercymorn is so, so good
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silvergoose posted:Relistening to harrow (mostly cause of you dawgstar) and oh my fuckin lord Moira's Mercymorn is so, so good I know this has been posted here before, but (spoiler if you haven't finished Harrow yet) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvJOuUJNcx8 is so amazing. Saw it after reading them all but not having listened to any of the audio books and its why my second "read" was with Moira Quirk.
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Jul 7, 2023 14:21
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I know what that is without clicking, it's too good.
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Jul 7, 2023 14:33
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Watch out, folks. Dulcinea is tired of roses, but horny for revenge. 
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Jul 7, 2023 14:56
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silvergoose posted:I know what that is without clicking, it's too good. We all know you clicked it anyway. Jod knows I did.
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disposablewords posted:We all know you clicked it anyway. Jod knows I did. Same here, it's great every time.
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That reminds me, is the audio book released at the same time or do I have to wait?
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Jul 7, 2023 18:25
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silvergoose posted:I know what that is without clicking, it's too good. That's the thing that got me to read the books in the first place.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:That's the thing that got me to read the books in the first place. Then I apologize for sending you that link elsewhere.
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Nona's nominated for a Hugo for Best Novel https://twitter.com/TorDotComPub/status/1677356955432624135?s=20 
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Happy Landfill posted:Nona's nominated for a Hugo for Best Novel Also Locked Tomb for best series, I believe. I've ever read some of two other of the nominated series (Rivers of London and October Daye) and they're both fine but they don't have Cam or Pal or Mercy or etc.
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Zierham posted:I know this has been posted here before, but (spoiler if you haven't finished Harrow yet) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvJOuUJNcx8 is so amazing. Saw it after reading them all but not having listened to any of the audio books and its why my second "read" was with Moira Quirk. genuine artistic skill there to come up with a single simple-looking scrawl that can actually be interpreted to look like a muffin, a cloud, a flower or a snake in a bush.
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Entropic posted:genuine artistic skill there to come up with a single simple-looking scrawl that can actually be interpreted to look like a muffin, a cloud, a flower or a snake in a bush. I would watch the gently caress out of a full-length animated Locked Tomb movie series by that person.
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silvergoose posted:I completely agree with this, especially given how she acts in the final chapters. betraying everything else to keep her promise to harrow, yelling get in line you big slut, yelling in frustration that killing Crux didn't make her feel better I keep flashing back to the bit in Gideon the Ninth where Gideon remembered that as a little girl she used to imagine that her daddy was some really important guy and that he'd show up to take her away from those horrible Ninth House psychos to live with him in his magic space castle (or whatever). And that wish has now come true. Except that instead of wishing on a star, poor Gideon apparently ended up wishing on a monkey's paw.
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Someone made a Harrohark figure, and it looks cool as hell. https://twitter.com/faithsweird/status/1678149662652391425?t=fqHgSFpU4GM6tfq8502UUg&s=19
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Rambling update: Now Augustine has seen Gideon's eyes in Harrow's face and flipped out and run off. Ianthe continues to be Ianthe or, to quote Gideon, a "tall glass of skank." (Gonad was kinda funny, though.) Summoning Matthias Nonius as a literal figure of epic poetry to fight off the Sleeper was a cool move, even if both seem nonplussed at being forced to speak in meter. Nonius has just stabbed the Sleeper through the heart, so we'll see how that takes. Also, I finally blew my free Audible credit on Nona. Edit: For having to read all that, please enjoy this picture of Cam and Pal arm-wrestling: 
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I still love that half of the climax of Harrow is all about the power of fanfiction
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Just finished Harrow the Ninth drat, that was extremely different and much more of a difficult read than Gideon (which was just a joy to go through), but really drat rewarding. I had to immediately go and read the first like, 20 pages of this thread. Initial thoughts: I really honestly was rooting for an Ianthe-Harrow hook up. Now, I don't think it would have been good for them to be in any sort of actual relationship perhaps, but, hell, go enjoy yourselves (kind of like the orgy that happens between the Lyctors and the Emperor in the middle of the book). The two of them were dripping with sexual tension for 400 pages, it was getting to be too much for me. Also what a great turn for Ianthe, a character you absolutely despise at the end of GtN but I found myself really having a lot of affection for throughout HtN (while somehow keeping in mind she murdered one of her best friends in cold blood for power and glory, how about that) God it was so cathartic to hear Gideon's voice near the end again. Muir does such a good job in ramping up the climax in this and GtN that you can't put the book down for the last 100 or so pages, you are just so riveted and want to know whats coming next. Brilliant to ping-pong back and forth in sympathy between the Lyctors and the Emperor and not knowing who's in the right, or if anyone is in the right ( it's probably no one). Near the end, when Ianthe helps the Emperor escape and dooms Augustine, Gideon makes it very clear that this is the wrong decision, but I find myself wondering...is it? The Lyctor assassination plot, at least to their knowledge, would have doomed the entire Solar System? Is that clearly the right move? I'm sure I'll learn more in the next one. Still can't quite wrap my mind around what was going on with Gideon the First repeatedly trying to murder Harrow. Was it that he suspected that Commander Wake was in her somehow and trying to kill the Emperor? The whole blasé attitude everyone took to it added to the surreality of the whole book, and I'm still untangling what the heck was going on there.
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Grats! Now it's Nona time! God told Gideon the first to try to kill harrow to unlock her lyctorhood, it was a cruel bad plan but hey that sounds about right for the guy reread the section where harrow regrows ianthe's arm, it's...worded very strongly and similarly to sex Ianthe is one of the best written lovely people I've ever read, Muir is brilliant Your thoughts about saving God being the wrong plan are, uh, I'll say either the answers are spoilers for Nona or they're spoilers for Alecto ie we don't know yet
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Mike N Eich posted:God it was so cathartic to hear Gideon's voice near the end again. Yeah when I got to that part I was like "oh that's what I've been missing from the first book" quote:Still can't quite wrap my mind around what was going on with Gideon the First repeatedly trying to murder Harrow. Nona sheds some light on this
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Nice, thanks everyone, I figured a lot of this stuff gets a little bit more clear (though probably not too clear, by the nature of the writing), in Nona. Gonna start that up ASAP!
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John wasn't wrong. He just also really, really wasn't right.
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Mike N Eich posted:Nice, thanks everyone, I figured a lot of this stuff gets a little bit more clear (though probably not too clear, by the nature of the writing), in Nona. Just to warn you, you know how irritating and confusing and weird the first few chapters of Harrow were, the feeling that literally everything was wrong? Nona is as different from Harrow and Gideon as Harrow was from Gideon. I still can't fathom how Muir wrote such differently toned books in one series. Stick with it. Nona loves you.
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I can't bring myself to hate John the way so many people seem to. Like, ok, sure, he killed an entire solar system, but it's not as though he was really in his right mind when he did it. The Earth gave him the power of necromancy with no training, preparation, or explanation. She can't put the tool into his hands without telling him how to use it and then get angry when he fucks it up. I don't think that there was anything even remotely close to a good outcome for that entire situation.
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silvergoose posted:reread the section where harrow regrows ianthe's arm, it's...worded very strongly and similarly to sex It’s their version of a sex scene according to Muir.
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Mad Hamish posted:I can't bring myself to hate John the way so many people seem to. Like, ok, sure, he killed an entire solar system, but it's not as though he was really in his right mind when he did it. The Earth gave him the power of necromancy with no training, preparation, or explanation. She can't put the tool into his hands without telling him how to use it and then get angry when he fucks it up. I mean, that's his story.
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Mad Hamish posted:I can't bring myself to hate John the way so many people seem to. Like, ok, sure, he killed an entire solar system, but it's not as though he was really in his right mind when he did it. The Earth gave him the power of necromancy with no training, preparation, or explanation. She can't put the tool into his hands without telling him how to use it and then get angry when he fucks it up. You do not, in fact, have to hand it to the Necro Emperor who killed ten billion people, and an entire solar system and mounted a ten thousand year EverWar against the distant descendants of the people who wouldn't do what he told them
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There's "loving it up" and there's "murdering a planet to gain the personal power to take revenge on a bunch of other people"
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Mad Hamish posted:I can't bring myself to hate John the way so many people seem to. Like, ok, sure, he killed an entire solar system, but it's not as though he was really in his right mind when he did it. The Earth gave him the power of necromancy with no training, preparation, or explanation. She can't put the tool into his hands without telling him how to use it and then get angry when he fucks it up. I think you're missing the planet for the forest. He really really really hosed it up and kicked off a nuclear war because he was an egotistical dick who couldn't let go and be Jesus 2.0. He could have saved the planet after the trillionaires ran. He could have Death Noted the hearts of everyone on the planet who didn't agree with him. But no, he had to start a nuclear war then kill everyone then kill every planet. Necro meth is not an excuse for genocide. I may forgive him after 1000 years of acid though. It's a system designed to reform individuals
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silvergoose posted:Just to warn you, you know how irritating and confusing and weird the first few chapters of Harrow were, the feeling that literally everything was wrong? Oh. Oh, dear. 
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