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What should the presidential powers be in 2020? This poll is closed. |
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| UNLIMITED!!!! URKKI 2.0!!!!!! |
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3 | 23.08% |
| Sauli should be allowed to telecast to our homes whenever he pleases, but that should be the limit. |
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2 | 15.38% |
| He should be limited to writing mildly worded letters to HBL and other provincial newspapers. |
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2 | 15.38% |
| None. More power to Sanna & Katri & Maria & Li & Anna-Maja & Jenni! |
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2 | 15.38% |
| Unlimited, but every decision must be subject to a plebiscite. |
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0 | 0% |
| None, but the president's life must be video streamed 24 /7 for the duration of their term, with no censorship. |
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4 | 30.77% |
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https://twitter.com/Alfredbacka/status/1686073380628283407
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Aug 2, 2023 16:26
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So is HJALLIS Chaotic Neutral or Lawful Evil?
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Aug 2, 2023 16:27
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lol
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Aug 2, 2023 16:28
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Darkest Auer posted:So is HJALLIS Chaotic Neutral or Lawful Evil? selkeästi jokeri pakassa joten kaaoksen puolella
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Aug 2, 2023 18:03
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Now that you mention it I do remember reading a similar Donald Duck story about Scrooge privatizing the atmosphere and thinking about how dystopian it would be to have to pay for basic subsistence (weird how common that plotline is). Maybe that made me a socialist.
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Aug 2, 2023 18:05
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Aku Ankasta keveämpiin aiheisiin, Yleisradio julkisti uusimman puoluegalluppinsa Yleisradio posted:Rasismisyytösten keskellä ollut perussuomalaiset on menettänyt Ylen puoluekannatusmittauksessa suosiotaan vähemmän kuin pääministeripuolue kokoomus.  no poo poo Yleisradio posted:– Ilmassa on ollut paljon pohdintaa siitä, jäävätkö entiset vihreiden ja vasemmiston äänestäjät SDP:n riveihin – ja toistaiseksi ovat jääneet. Siinä mielessä SDP on pitänyt asemansa todella hyvin. Varsinkin vihreistä liike on jatkunut edelleen SDP:n suuntaan, Westinen sanoo. Vihreiden alavireisyys jatkuu edelleen kannutusmittauksessa: 8,0 prosentin kannatus on kaukana 17,8 prosentin huipusta, jonka se saavutti vuonna 2017 Ylen kannatusmittauksessa. Tämähän vaikuttaa loistavalta hetkeltä ruveta perustamaan pan-Eurooppalaista mikropuoluetta! 
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Aug 3, 2023 05:16
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I'm alavire kannutusmittauksessa.
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Aug 3, 2023 05:46
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Ei kai Yleisradiolta voi vaatia samanlaista kielenhuollon tasoa kuin Aku Ankalta!
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Aug 3, 2023 06:20
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I just realized Greens changed their chairperson at some point. I don't know what's she's been doing since coming to office, but certainly not being in the limelight. I mean, I don't even remember her name, let alone her face.
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Aug 3, 2023 06:29
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:I just realized Greens changed their chairperson at some point. I don't know what's she's been doing since coming to office, but certainly not being in the limelight. She gets her press statements onto the tabloids et all quite readily from the scant links I see, its just that she never has anything really topical or concrete to say. I assume somewhat because any economics talk would see her views line up with the Kok brand of privatize-terrorize-sodomize austerity and right now that seems like not the most cromulent point to be making as an opposition party.
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Aug 3, 2023 06:44
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Bushmeister posted:She gets her press statements onto the tabloids et all quite readily from the scant links I see, its just that she never has anything really topical or concrete to say. I assume somewhat because any economics talk would see her views line up with the Kok brand of privatize-terrorize-sodomize austerity and right now that seems like not the most cromulent point to be making as an opposition party. perhaps it might not have been the best of ideas to choose a puisto-Cock as the party's face when you are in opposition against the Cocks
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Aug 3, 2023 07:31
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SpiritOfLenin posted:perhaps it might not have been the best of ideas to choose a puisto-Cock as the party's face when you are in opposition against the Cocks Isn't that precisely when you want that? There is not enough voters for both red-green vihr and red-green vas. The past few elections have shown that there is no point, if vihr stays left they might as well merge. When Kok is in government with ps, being as close to kok as possible except very loudly against ps seems to me to be a viable strategy.
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Aug 3, 2023 08:05
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I'm struggling to comprehend how "let's raise pensan hinta and agree with the EU that metsät eivät ole hiilinieluja" combined with "the poors should be mulched into cattle feed since lintuinfluenssa is inconveniencing the turkistarhaajat" is a winning strategy, but I guess that's why no one pays me the big bucks to be a political commentator. 
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Aug 3, 2023 08:09
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SpiritOfLenin posted:perhaps it might not have been the best of ideas to choose a puisto-Cock as the party's face when you are in opposition against the Cocks Greens should be the spoiler party to the right instead of the left. This is the way.
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Aug 3, 2023 08:14
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Tuna-Fish posted:Isn't that precisely when you want that? Yeah it definitely could be a refuge for the sivistysporvarit. Kok's approval is dropping, we'll see what happens.
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Aug 3, 2023 08:37
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Bushmeister posted:She gets her press statements onto the tabloids et all quite readily from the scant links I see, its just that she never has anything really topical or concrete to say. I assume somewhat because any economics talk would see her views line up with the Kok brand of privatize-terrorize-sodomize austerity and right now that seems like not the most cromulent point to be making as an opposition party. To be fair, it's summer and the new government was formed only six weeks ago. There hasn't been much to do yet other than say "yupppp, those guys sure are racist". And for opposition it's best to let the government marinade in its own stew.
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Aug 3, 2023 09:08
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I've personally been a bit confused by the noise around Purras writings. AFAIK, nothing she wrote is more extreme than anything Jussi Halla-Aho has written, I don't think he's apologized for anything he's ever written even if he's gotten sentenced for some of it. IIRC he once wrote about maybe "shooting that homo" jogging past his house or something in his blog (heard about it in a blog by Kaj Korkea-Aho who iirc, wondered if that homo was him). Yet he's speaker of the house and it's almost as if he's got an air of respectability in contrast to Purra, despite them both being equally despicable. Or am I just imagining things? I don't follow the news that closely so maybe there was a huge storm I missed.
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Aug 3, 2023 09:22
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His Divine Shadow posted:I've personally been a bit confused by the noise around Purras writings. AFAIK, nothing she wrote is more extreme than anything Jussi Halla-Aho has written, I don't think he's apologized for anything he's ever written even if he's gotten sentenced for some of it. Yes but Orpo demanded (or most likely RKP behind the scenes) an apology from Purra to gain confidence of other coalition members. HA has been normalized by the media for more than a decade, as crazy as it is.
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Aug 3, 2023 09:28
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It seems like the current decorum standard is that ministers shouldn't be turboracists but as long as it's any other role you're free to be any kind of nazi. But also it's ok if the minister just says sorry.
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Aug 3, 2023 09:33
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His Divine Shadow posted:I've personally been a bit confused by the noise around Purras writings. AFAIK, nothing she wrote is more extreme than anything Jussi Halla-Aho has written, I don't think he's apologized for anything he's ever written even if he's gotten sentenced for some of it. There is a long standard that rivikansanedustajat can be random village idiots, but ministers have to follow not just  standards, but also a law that says they have to be "moitteettomia". In principle, if Purra was convicted of something she said, she'd have to resign.Which is why it's so cool and good that hallis got literally the highest possible position without moitteettomuusvaatimus. 
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Aug 3, 2023 09:43
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His Divine Shadow posted:I've personally been a bit confused by the noise around Purras writings. AFAIK, nothing she wrote is more extreme than anything Jussi Halla-Aho has written, I don't think he's apologized for anything he's ever written even if he's gotten sentenced for some of it. Halla-aho is a master of the dog whistle. His blog is a fount of euphemistic newspeak that avoids explicit racism while heavily implying it. Purra, on the other hand, was dropping n-bombs and other incendiaries left and right in the comment section. There's not a shred of doubt she's racist as all get out.
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Aug 3, 2023 11:32
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I'd like to recommend at this point the unofficial biography of Halla-aho, written by Lauri Nurmi. Did you know he was in his thirties and doing a doctoral thesis at the time he posted loving race science online, about "negroidic races" and all that poo poo? I sure didn't, I thought he was much younger. Also, he loves cats, and hates the English language and culture, with the exception of Tolkien.
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Aug 3, 2023 12:31
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Yeah but Hitler liked animals, was a vegetarian and he killed Hitler too.
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Aug 3, 2023 13:11
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:Halla-aho is a master of the dog whistle. His blog is a fount of euphemistic newspeak that avoids explicit racism while heavily implying it. The average persu MP like Junnila is more a master of slide whistle.
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Aug 3, 2023 13:20
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 Jaa ette sitten yhtään isompaa fonttikokoa löytäneet otsikolle jossa kerrotaan asia mikä on käytännössä tiedetty jo viikkoja? Hauska muuten sekin kun Aaltola petasi vissiin ilmoitustaan aiemmin kommentilla siitä, että Tiitisen lista pitäisi totta kai julkaista ja oikeastaan olisi pitänyt jo aikapäiviä sitten selvityksineen!
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Aug 3, 2023 16:32
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Yleisradiolla oli pieni juttu Aaltolasta, nostivat otsikkoonsa tämän "hauskan" faktanquote:Mika Aaltola vietti oman maailmankuvansa kannalta tärkeät lukiovuotensa 1980-luvun lopulla Yhdysvalloissa, New Yorkissa. Boldaus minun. En malta odottaa että tämä sankari pääsee vaaliväittelyihin ja henkilöhaastatteluihin  His Divine Shadow posted:I've personally been a bit confused by the noise around Purras writings. AFAIK, nothing she wrote is more extreme than anything Jussi Halla-Aho has written, I don't think he's apologized for anything he's ever written even if he's gotten sentenced for some of it. The "tehtaankadun homo" - story was him probably making up a story about some drunk or high dude coming to harass Hallis on the street while he was smoking (!) to give him a blow-job, which irritated him and hence the violent homophobic fantasy. It's a really weird story all in all, when most of his writings seem to have revolved around making GBS threads on hesari and various päivystävät dosentit about not being racist enough.
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Aug 3, 2023 16:55
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https://twitter.com/jojalonen/status/1687182625776001025 Juuh, semmonen.
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Aug 3, 2023 20:27
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Aug 3, 2023 20:37
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Aaltola on pyöriny täysin mun tutkan ulkopuolella. Sen tiesin, että hän hääräsi ulkopoliittisessa instituutissa ja kv politiikkaan erikoistunut mies, mutta jotenkin kuvittelin hänen ulkopoliittisen katsannon olevan tätä modernia Eurooppaan suuntaavaa koulukuntaa. Mutta näemmä hän edustaakin sitten hieman klassisempaa Euroopan laajentumista pohtivaa koulukuntaa viime vuossadan alkupuoliskolta....
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Aug 3, 2023 20:55
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Aaltoloilla on myös taapero nimeltä Geo. Jos he saavat vielä perheenlisäyksenä tyttären, sen nimeksi tulee todnäk Politiikka.
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Aug 3, 2023 20:59
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Nenonen posted:Aaltoloilla on myös taapero nimeltä Geo. on sen verran jenkkiläistynyt että se on Politics
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Aug 3, 2023 21:05
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Rappaport posted:Yleisradiolla oli pieni juttu Aaltolasta, nostivat otsikkoonsa tämän "hauskan" faktan I feel like "Tehtaankadun Homo" story was also likely a dog whistle to nazis, telling them that he stands with Bård Eithun. Or maybe I was just too into black metal as a kid and am imagining things, luoja tietää.
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Aug 3, 2023 21:53
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I mean let's just look at the eduskunta vote on the legislation change on transgender rights (Yle from this February, not news) Green is yes, red is gently caress off PS were in opposition, sure, but it doesn't seem like they're exactly super-keen on rights for sexual minorities. Sebu Tynkkynen aside, I guess.
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Aug 3, 2023 22:01
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Rappaport posted:
Sebu is a mascot and a jester, as long as he's entertaining and non threatening, he's allowed to be persu.
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Aug 4, 2023 07:17
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Aaltola might have had a shot if he had been drafted by Kokoomus and wriggled his way into round two against Halla-aho. Now he's probably gonna be a spoiler for Stubb/Häkkänen and even Rehn. Halla-aho round 2 stonks do go up with Aaltola further splitting the not-PS vote. We get to have our own version of the 2002 French presidential election. The added publicity will be a career boon though; he clearly loves it. Maybe he can leverage this into a nice professor's chair in some American university or a well-paid consultancy at a think tank.
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Aug 4, 2023 09:18
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Fish of hemp posted:Sebu is a mascot and a jester, as long as he's entertaining and non threatening, he's allowed to be persu. Every fascist movement must have its own Ernst Röhm, it's in the rules.
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Aug 4, 2023 09:19
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Sulphagnist posted:Aaltola might have had a shot if he had been drafted by Kokoomus and wriggled his way into round two against Halla-aho. Now he's probably gonna be a spoiler for Stubb/Häkkänen and even Rehn. Halla-aho round 2 stonks do go up with Aaltola further splitting the not-PS vote. We get to have our own version of the 2002 French presidential election. I wonder how much attention RAND pays to the Finnish presidential elections these days. Yesterday there was a porinapaja with Häkkänen, Lindtman and Halla-aho about foreign and security policy, it's long, don't watch it, but Häkkänen very clearly used his opening monologue and his turns in the "discussion" to make a case for a presidential campaign. If we take it at face value, Cock will have to decide between the nami-nami-Alex and arch-conservative Häkkänen. I doubt Aaltola ever really had a chance at being Cock's candidate.
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Aug 4, 2023 09:35
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Nenonen posted:Every fascist movement must have its own Ernst Röhm, it's in the rules. And i think Tynkkynen was a big part in Halla-Aho's victory by mobilizing the nazier part of the party membership vía social media against Soini's proteges. So a useful idiot.
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Aug 4, 2023 11:16
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Sampo Terho was also active on hommaforum when he was running for party chair, so while Sebu is an idiot, it's not like the party had a not-racist future ahead of it either way 
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Aug 4, 2023 11:24
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Rappaport posted:Sampo Terho was also active on hommaforum when he was running for party chair, so while Sebu is an idiot, it's not like the party had a not-racist future ahead of it either way Yes, they are all horrible people.
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Aug 4, 2023 11:43
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