It's coming home
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:17 |
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Terrifying moment when Kerr suddenly crumpled there
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:18 |
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Bringing on a half fit Kerr when you’re 2-0 up and looking comfortable seems like a bad decision tbh
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:19 |
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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:Bringing on a half fit Kerr when you’re 2-0 up and looking comfortable seems like a bad decision tbh Otoh the defense is unchanged by it and it's probably the safest chance to test her out in an actual game.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:21 |
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grats Oz you looked pretty good
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:25 |
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Close first half but looked pretty dominant in the second. Good stuff
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:25 |
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its coming home (to almost the furthest point from england)
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:25 |
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slorb posted:its coming home (to almost the furthest point from england) The best place for it
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:26 |
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Infinitum posted:It's coming home Well, if it couldn't be Denmark, I'll be rooting for Sweden and then Australia now
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:27 |
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noice. good stuff.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:27 |
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As an American that rooted for AUS during the ashes, go Aus! Hope they meet Eng in the quarter and trunce them vv Oh it's semi finals, my bad Digital Jedi fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Aug 7, 2023 |
# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:29 |
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Digital Jedi posted:As an American that rooted for AUS during the ashes, go Aus! I think we play the winner of France v Morocco
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:31 |
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Paracausal posted:STRAYA gently caress YEAH CUNTS
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:32 |
Fanatic posted:I think we play
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:36 |
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Congrats Aus, I hope you keep winning
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:37 |
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Morocco isn't gonna win but I still want them to.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:40 |
mycatscrimes posted:Morocco isn't gonna win but I still want them to. I mean Nigeriia wasn't gonna win, but it went to a shootout
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:49 |
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Infinitum posted:I mean Nigeriia wasn't gonna win, but it went to a shootout I can't get my hopes up because I'm still heartbroken over the Super Falcons, though
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:52 |
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Paracausal posted:STRAYA gently caress YEAH CUNTS This, imo
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 13:55 |
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Imagine playing extra time and then penalties instead of simply scoring goals in regulation. Go Matildas.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 14:12 |
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At least we know that Sam Kerr can run around a bit now, though she looked like someone who hasn’t played competitive footy in months Fantastic atmosphere tonight, don’t think I’ve ever heard a crowd roar like when the first goal went in, even at an fa cup final it wasn’t that intense. Still feels insane that it’s 10.30 pm on a cold Monday night and there’s 78,000 people watching a women’s football match.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 14:25 |
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All the grieving Americans (OP especially) should read and quote this sober analysis as a counter to all the US-based talking heads saying how this team 'didn't want it enough' or stupid poo poo like that: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/aug/07/uswnt-womens-world-cup-2023-exit-reasons-soccer quote:Now, however, women’s soccer is considered one of the hottest properties in sports. Valuations of National Women’s Soccer League franchises have rocketed in the past three years. Investment is happening in the international game, too, where even non-traditional powers like Morocco have ploughed millions of dollars into their women’s teams. US Soccer valuing its women’s team is no longer an anomaly. (That, by the way, is a point that players and their federation embraced as a byproduct of their six-year equal-pay fight.)
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 14:36 |
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i feel like most USWNT watchers have been beating some of those various drums for a while. the last world cup felt like kind of the tipping point at the time. there is definitely a "did you want it enough" piece that has to be addressed in the squad imo as most of the younger players look pedestrian and pretty far off of it, but it's not like addressing that will be sufficient to return to dominance.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 14:45 |
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Truly men's college football is the worst scourge in America
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 14:52 |
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mycatscrimes posted:Truly men's college football is the worst scourge in America We have a bright future in the always progressive Pac 12 (gestures to empty window)
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 14:57 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:i feel like most USWNT watchers have been beating some of those various drums for a while. the last world cup felt like kind of the tipping point at the time. They absolutely wanted it enough, that wasn't an issue. After watching NWSL for the last few years I'd say that most of these younger girls were just not ready for other teams. After clowning on American defences for the whole season Smith looked genuinely surprised to find out that players from other countries can and will mark her out from the whole game. US did a whole lot of good for the women's game but they got complacent. And the pressure on this team was absolutely immense, they'd get criticised for anything other than winning the title. They will do better next time but a lot has to change at systemic level.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 14:59 |
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gently caress that game was awesome. There were honestly about 50 danish fans and 75000 Aussies. loving the best
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 15:02 |
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imo it doesn't take a 10,000 word postmortem to understand that the US had an advantage as long as nobody else in the world cared about women's football just because US sports infrastructure is set up so that some of the same player development opportunities that exist for men also have an equivalent for women, like college sports, which meant there was some investment in the women's game in the US at a time when there was no investment in the women's game anywhere else, but that's no longer the case and whoops turns out as soon as the places that know how to develop good footballers and build good teams start applying that knowledge to women as well as to men, the US's arcane sports structures and general lack of interest in the sport hold back women just like they hold back men
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 15:02 |
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Terminally Bored posted:All the grieving Americans (OP especially) should read and quote this sober analysis as a counter to all the US-based talking heads saying how this team 'didn't want it enough' or stupid poo poo like that: it feels good, op
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 15:02 |
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glad to see the danes out
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 15:03 |
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What I'm saying is: Rodman and Smith ARE good but they need to regularly play against really good teams, not learn that they can easily ship 6 past Chicago every time they meet.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 15:04 |
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Australia has now knocked Denmark out of the World Cup for the second time in eight months
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 15:07 |
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vyelkin posted:imo it doesn't take a 10,000 word postmortem to understand that the US had an advantage as long as nobody else in the world cared about women's football just because US sports infrastructure is set up so that some of the same player development opportunities that exist for men also have an equivalent for women, like college sports, which meant there was some investment in the women's game in the US at a time when there was no investment in the women's game anywhere else, but that's no longer the case and whoops turns out as soon as the places that know how to develop good footballers and build good teams start applying that knowledge to women as well as to men, the US's arcane sports structures and general lack of interest in the sport hold back women just like they hold back men It was a huge victory for equal treatment in the US that got those college opportunities for women in place, it was fought for tooth and claw. So that was something worth being proud of for a lot of us women fans of our soccer teams. Tbh the general public and Fox News crowd just kind of... bandwagoned on that pride and made it more about 'America Best' than taking pride in having made a strong women's team and what it meant to women's sports. From the outside I imagine it quite reasonably all looks the same though. Soccer seems to still be building momentum as a professional sport in the US, so there may be hope for the overall improvement you're talking about.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 15:09 |
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vyelkin posted:imo it doesn't take a 10,000 word postmortem to understand that the US had an advantage as long as nobody else in the world cared about women's football just because US sports infrastructure is set up so that some of the same player development opportunities that exist for men also have an equivalent for women, like college sports, which meant there was some investment in the women's game in the US at a time when there was no investment in the women's game anywhere else, but that's no longer the case and whoops turns out as soon as the places that know how to develop good footballers and build good teams start applying that knowledge to women as well as to men, the US's arcane sports structures and general lack of interest in the sport hold back women just like they hold back men bawh god is that relegations/promotions music???
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 15:10 |
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Terminally Bored posted:What I'm saying is: Rodman and Smith ARE good but they need to regularly play against really good teams, not learn that they can easily ship 6 past Chicago every time they meet. We also need to catch up on tactics, having 11 strong players isn't enough if they aren't going in with a strong plan and some flexibility when plan A doesn't work.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 15:13 |
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mycatscrimes posted:It was a huge victory for equal treatment in the US that got those college opportunities for women in place, it was fought for tooth and claw. So that was something worth being proud of for a lot of us women fans of our soccer teams. Tbh the general public and Fox News crowd just kind of... bandwagoned on that pride and made it more about 'America Best' than taking pride in having made a strong women's team and what it meant to women's sports. From the outside I imagine it quite reasonably all looks the same though. don't think there's anything wrong with taking pride in your team when it's successful, Canada suffers from the same problems but with 1/10th the talent pool but that didn't stop me being happy when we won the Olympics and it's the same kinda deal where lots of people just assumed having a good team when 99% of the world didn't care meant we would be good forever
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 15:16 |
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It's cool that we have to suffer through another two weeks of ads featuring those losers.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 15:17 |
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vyelkin posted:don't think there's anything wrong with taking pride in your team when it's successful, Canada suffers from the same problems but with 1/10th the talent pool but that didn't stop me being happy when we won the Olympics and it's the same kinda deal where lots of people just assumed having a good team when 99% of the world didn't care meant we would be good forever Oh for sure, I'm kinda rambling bc I've been thinking too much about why our women's soccer team has meant so much to me since I was a little girl, since I don't particularly give a poo poo about rooting for my country in sports otherwise. This has been such a good tournament for women's soccer internationally though, that means a lot too.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 15:22 |
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All joking aside, the truth is that the US hasn't been this dominant force in women's soccer in ages. And honestly, maybe it only briefly ever was. Sure, it's the most successful team on earth on the women's side. But Americans, especially the casuals, like to act like its the dream team when its not. Every single olympic gold medal includes at least one extra time game. 2019 England was a missed pk away from forcing extra time against the us. Being a Brazilian living in the US, it is striking how the American reaction is all or nothing based on results. Win on pks or on extra time or on super questionable refereeing (2012 US Canada is still probably the worst refereed game ive ever watched) and it gets treated the same way as if the US won 5-0, lose on pks and its like "lets burn this system to the ground." And for all the hand wringing about the college system, there is something to be said about its consistency. Because what allows the US to win so many titles in extra time or pks is because while they are not dominant, they are always in it. Marta gets old and Brazil becomes irrelevant. Christine Sinclair gets old and Canada joins Brazil in the sidelines. The US meanwhile is competitive every time. Sometimes it goes through because the bounces go their way (1999 wc, all the olympic golds). Sometimes it doesn't.
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# ? Aug 7, 2023 15:49 |
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mycatscrimes posted:
This has been a huge failure of Andonofsky. The US has plenty of technically skilled and clever players, it's not that they're "more athletic" than other nations players and that hasn't been the case against the top flight of competition since at latest 2011. The US lost a bunch in the aughts because they were strong and could run all day but didn't have the technical nous. Now they've got that, but they gave a goddamned F-22 to George Armstrong Custer. Moreover, they managed their generational turnover poorly, especially going forward where Sophia Smith was not quite ready for prime time, Alex Morgan is just past it despite having made the World XI just last year, and Rose Lavelle was coming off injury/got two cards in the group stage. They've never figured out how to handle Left Back because they'll just stick Crystal Dunn there rather than see who could actually play the position naturally. The injury to Becky Saurbrunn shouldn't have been as huge a deal as it was, but hurt because Vlatko didn't trust anyone to play centerback other than an out of position Julie Ertz, the midfield lost it's best defender... and the midfield was already a mess due to injuries, Vlatko's incompetence, and the US's habit of developing excellent attacking mids and very few excellent 6s. Add into all of that Vlatko's near complete inability to make adjustments, and having apparently no clue what he was doing with subs. In that final game Vlatko makes his team it worse by subbing off Trinity Rodman, who'd been the most threatening US forward, and then substituting in a 38 year old Megan Rapinoe. Despite all of that, on most days the USWNT advances to the quarterfinals instead of Sweden with that performance. All that said, we US fans deserve our comeuppance. We got wrecked, and we were certainly more than arrogant enough to engender all of the schadenfreude that's been pent up for a decade. I think the Olympics will be interesting. habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Aug 7, 2023 |
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