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Denji getting depressed and burned out on everyone being weird and secretive about their motivations is actually the perfect catalyst for finding the Blood Devil and the return of Power, who is Denji’s soul mate.
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Denji is gonna find Power and then they're just gonna Goodbye, Eri this poo poo.
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Aug 9, 2023 14:53
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Explode a hospital? Sounds about right.
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Aug 9, 2023 16:50
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:She and Reze are busy making wedding plans. This. This is the spinoff I want.
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Aug 9, 2023 17:25
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is one of Nostradamus' prophesied signs of the Apocalypse Denji being the only rational person on Earth?
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Aug 9, 2023 18:21
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halloween
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Aug 9, 2023 20:23
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AnoHito posted:I hope they give zero explanation for it ever. That would be very Fujimoto honestly
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Aug 9, 2023 23:32
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I am hoping that Sword Man has different powers from Katana Man.
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Aug 10, 2023 07:24
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Flair posted:I am hoping that Sword Man has different powers from Katana Man. Probably some sorta downside seeing as he's a double edged sword  I'm sorry...
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Aug 10, 2023 09:50
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Cleaving whole buildings or something. Teleport slash is too Kurosawa to be anything but katana.
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Aug 10, 2023 10:14
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Blockhouse posted:is one of Nostradamus' prophesied signs of the Apocalypse Denji being the only rational person on Earth? I mean, consider the last chapter. Denji's still batshit. It's just the current context that makes him look like the relative voice of sanity
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Aug 10, 2023 10:32
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Chainsaw Man has undoubtedly made the world a wilder crazier place, they all got to watch him go ape poo poo so why wouldn't he suddenly seem more normal as the world twists towards being way more like his life used to be? There is no security only chaos and now everyone knows it for sure with the Chainsaw Man and Pretty Demon Girl wandering around solving poo poo with ease.
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Aug 11, 2023 20:42
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If you're not a pretty girl or a cat you have much to fear from Chainsaw Man, he might eat you.
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Aug 12, 2023 01:25
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Kwyndig posted:If you're not a pretty girl or a cat you have much to fear from Chainsaw Man, he might eat you. Look, he'd never eat a cat! ...Attractive women, it was just the one time.
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Aug 12, 2023 02:31
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Why did Denji cook and eat makima while he was in human form instead of just downing her in a few bites as CSM as usual? I was reading that part kind of fast.
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Aug 14, 2023 17:47
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No Wave posted:Why did Denji cook and eat makima while he was in human form instead of just downing her in a few bites as CSM as usual? I was reading that part kind of fast. I'm not sure if Denji is aware that CSM can erase things by eating the associated devil, and even if he was, erasing the concept of Control from humanity does not sound like a very good idea
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Aug 14, 2023 17:53
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No Wave posted:Why did Denji cook and eat makima while he was in human form instead of just downing her in a few bites as CSM as usual? I was reading that part kind of fast. well ripping off limbs and guzzling them down could be construed as an attack. lovingly preparing an 8 course meal is just art
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Aug 14, 2023 17:55
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So his eating her was a completely separate mechanic that randomly worked and it happens to be identical to Chainsaw man's special mechanic? I feel ok for being confused.
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Perhaps Denji was eating her to make sure Makima didn’t come back Maybe not eating her as Chainsaw Man was to make sure Control didn’t get erased
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No Wave posted:So his eating her was a completely separate mechanic that randomly worked and it happens to be identical to Chainsaw man's special mechanic? I feel ok for being confused. Probably not identical. The best explanation we get is from Denji and Kishibe's conversation at the end of Part 1, where they're unsure as to why they remember Makima and how Nayuta exists. Best theory anybody can come up with is that Denji doing it is less severe an "erasure" than Chainsaw Man proper, but still effective to some degree.
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Denji didn't do ANY kind of erasure, what are you guys talking about??? Makima had this hideous ability where any perceived attack toward her reflected off onto another random person under her control which happened to be a lot of Japan, including the high ups. Denji cooking and eating her was a form of love, so it didn't count as an attack, so Denji was able to kill her pieces by pieces.
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Marluxia posted:Denji didn't do ANY kind of erasure, what are you guys talking about??? minor correction, that ability of makima’s was actually a term of her contract with the prime minister, so by taking advantage of that hierarchy every Japanese citizen was her unwitting meat shield
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Aug 14, 2023 18:30
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Marluxia posted:Denji didn't do ANY kind of erasure, what are you guys talking about??? Not just anyone under her control. She had a contract with the prime minister to shuffle attacks to any citizen of Japan.
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chiasaur11 posted:Not just anyone under her control. She had a contract with the prime minister to shuffle attacks to any citizen of Japan. the prime minister of japan is definitely some kind of devil right
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Aug 14, 2023 18:36
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No being a politician just gives you power over the people, like when Trump sold the lifespans of all US citizens to send the Gun Devil to kill Makima.
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Aug 14, 2023 18:40
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going to own all of the posters ITT so I can make contracts with devils on their behalf
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Aug 14, 2023 18:43
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Last time someone tried that they were defeated by the Your Spine Is Made Out Of Fruit Gushers Devil
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Aug 14, 2023 19:17
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:No being a politician just gives you power over the people, like when Trump sold the lifespans of all US citizens to send the Gun Devil to kill Makima. Sounds like another Clinton cover-up to me! 
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yeah denji's act only figuratively parallels the "chainsaw man eating things to eliminate them from existence" idea, they aren't the same thing on an in-universe level (until part 2 says it is). it's a singular act that unites all the running imagery about denji's hunger, food as imagery of stability or luxury (steak for breakfast!), and it pays off the first choice makima offers denji, to be killed by her or fed by her. there's definitely space to explore the relationship in the narrative between the two acts of eating still (does chainsaw love nukes and war and outcomes besides death?), but imo the most important bit of the connection is that this moment culminates denji's arc by "becoming" chainsaw man (he literally does the chainsaw devil thing as a man, but transcends by managing to remember makima while destroying her), above any of the "is it the same thing in the fiction" stuff
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Valentin posted:it pays off the first choice makima offers denji, to be killed by her or fed by her. 
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Aug 14, 2023 23:01
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Cephas posted:the prime minister of japan is definitely some kind of devil right I mean the entire point of that bit was "Politicians: Even worse than Devils"
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I have combined the powers of the world's wickedest devils to make the most evil creature of them all. Turns out it’s
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Aug 14, 2023 23:48
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Elite posted:I have combined the powers of the world's wickedest devils to make the most evil creature of them all. The only thing that can defeat him is the Homemade Firearm Devil
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Supremezero posted:I mean the entire point of that bit was "Politicians: Even worse than Devils" yeah but it'd be really funny if kishibe busted in to the diet building and it turned out the prime minister was baphomet
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Aug 15, 2023 00:27
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Whooping Crabs posted:The only thing that can defeat him is the Homemade Firearm Devil lol huh how bout that
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:No being a politician just gives you power over the people, like when Trump sold the lifespans of all US citizens to send the Gun Devil to kill Makima. In the end did that deal take effect I wonder? The Gun Devil would have to “kill” Makima to uphold its end of the bargain and get all that juicy lifespan. Now he did kill her, multiple times even, but the fact he kept trying instead of going “later losers” after that first headshot seems to imply the death had to stick for it to count. Or maybe each time he killed her he got yet another year of life span from everyone.
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Both the US and Gun Devil (and lots of other peoples and governments) were probably well aware of Makima's "invincibility", so any contract that involved her death would include a kill-until-dead clause. Killing Makima is easy, any schmuck can do that.
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I think you make a contract and pay the price regardlesa of whether the devil succeeds. Like, the agents sacrificed themselves to summon the Hell Devil to kill Makima and send her to hell, but it died as soon as it was summoned. Then the agent was like, "Don't loving die before you do your job." and gave it extra blood. And then the Hell Devil sent Chainsaw Man to Hell instead. But it's not like the agents are gonna un-die cause the Hell Devil failed to kill Makima.
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galagazombie posted:In the end did that deal take effect I wonder? The Gun Devil would have to “kill” Makima to uphold its end of the bargain and get all that juicy lifespan. Now he did kill her, multiple times even, but the fact he kept trying instead of going “later losers” after that first headshot seems to imply the death had to stick for it to count. Or maybe each time he killed her he got yet another year of life span from everyone. He only got one kill, then Makima clobbered him hard enough in return to get him to run after Denji instead. The other deathsmentioned were earlier incidents. Also, was thinking about Asa and Denji's ethical approaches lately, and it struck me that they're interestingly opposed. Not just in the Kim and Jimmy thing where Denji cares about people and Asa cares about rules (although Kim and Jimmy had amazing chemistry, while Denji and Asa... are Denji and Asa.) but in something tying into Fami's comment about Chainsaw Man's ignorance of right and wrong. Denji isn't entirely without guilt, but he's mostly in tune with his conscience. As seen in his last talk with Reze, Denji knows what he feels he "should" do ("I'm not a murderer!") and does it, with rare exceptions (Aki and his dad most prominently). He's not exactly a good person, per se, but he is a man who listens to his conscience, and whose conscience rarely bothers him much in return. Asa, meanwhile, is in a much worse state. She doesn't have much of an idea of what's right or wrong, but she's always feeling guilty about something. Heck, her superpowers come directly from feelings of guilt. For overall approach, Aki and Yuko make for a great contrast here. Denji hated himself for killing Aki, and was sure there was something better he could have done... but he committed. He saw what he had to do, made a choice, and finished the job. Asa, meanwhile, only took down Yuko by accident and couldn't commit either way, either to saving her friend or to preventing a massacre. And looking at Asa's dreams... I can't see this going anywhere happy.
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