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When did people get too cool for the word “alleged”? It’s literally one weird trick to talk 24/7 about someone’s crimes without anyone being able to say boo about it. Nobody hears “alleged rapist” and thinks “hmm, sounds unproblematic”. They think “probably a rapist, and on a side note the person telling me about it obviously hews closely to the truth”.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:Man, isn’t that the Five for Fighting guy from the 2000s? Five Times August is the name for singer-songwriter Brad Skistimas's projects. Both of them are conservatives, but Ondrasik's public expression of that is mostly generic We Love Our Troops/USO shows, complaining about the Afghanistan withdrawal, and trying to get a "Live Aid for Ukraine" benefit concert off the ground. Skistimas's conservatism is more "tweeting a lot of dumb poo poo", appearing on Fox News, writing songs about the plandemic and Biden's dark plans to destroy democracy, etc. Five for Fighting was genuinely popular twenty years ago, Five Times August was just astroturfed into being big enough for "Sad Little Man" and "Silent War" to chart.
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Aug 22, 2023 13:55
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Are we sure this isn't a Colbert Show bit?
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Aug 22, 2023 14:20
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I am impressed that Biden was able to become a senator 3 years before he was born.
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Aug 22, 2023 14:22
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Hunt11 posted:I am impressed that Biden was able to become a senator 3 years before he was born. It's impressive how the right wing has convinced themselves that Democrats are all Time Lords.
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Aug 22, 2023 15:15
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Seems pretty clear that it's a joke?
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Aug 22, 2023 20:09
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ErIog posted:It's not who you voted for. It's party affiliation in order to register for closed primaries or connect you with party GOTV efforts or mailing lists. It is a bit silly considering the US federal system has no real concept of political parties, but many states do in order to ensure fairness in the primary or caucus process. I believe many or most states have a "none," option. In Massachusetts, at least, you can register as independent, which means no party affiliation, which is different from the state-recognized Independent party because politics is a clownshow.
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The Artificial Kid posted:When did people get too cool for the word “alleged”? It’s literally one weird trick to talk 24/7 about someone’s crimes without anyone being able to say boo about it. For a serious answer media people get grilled into their head now that "alleged" isn't a strong enough defense against defamation. Just attribute all claims to a source and you're a whole lot safer.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Seems pretty clear that it's a joke? That would imply that someone at Fox News has a sense of humor.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Seems pretty clear that it's a joke? If you say so. ... I don't know who the Conservabot 3000 Radio Host I heard today it was who called Joe Biden "A giant piece of human garbage" for his admittedly awkward attempt at empathy for the Maui fire victims when he shared a story of a fire at his house but the host said that "Joe made it all about him", which was kind of rich coming from a Trumpian. Biden even prefaced the remarks by saying he wasn't trying to compare the situations in any meaningful way but that, this one time in his life, he had a scare with a fire or something. here it is: quote:"I don't want to compare difficulties but we have a little sense, Jill and I, of what it's like to lose a home," he said. "Years ago now, 15 years ago, I was in Washington doing Meet the Press. It was a sunny Sunday," he continued. Truly outrageous and monstrous. Reminder that Donald Trump took free throw practice tossing rolls of paper towels at Puerto Rican hurricane victims. He also bragged about having the tallest building in NYC after 9/11 but, hey, get a load of this Biden guy.
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The right is turning on Oliver Anthony after it turns out he’s not racist enough for them. https://x.com/armanddoma/status/1693994819780239838?s=46&t=8eGAks3mGgDHUb4Mz4yNSw https://x.com/krangtnelson/status/1694073045667684724?s=46&t=8eGAks3mGgDHUb4Mz4yNSw duck.exe fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Aug 23, 2023 |
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I thought "melting pot" was actually reactionary speak for "foreigners need to conform" or is this yet another phrase that has changed meanings 3 times in the last 3 years
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Elephant Ambush posted:I thought "melting pot" was actually reactionary speak for "foreigners need to conform" or is this yet another phrase that has changed meanings 3 times in the last 3 years I think it's supposed to mean "a collection of a lot of different races, religions and cultures" So anathema for your modern conservative.
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Elephant Ambush posted:I thought "melting pot" was actually reactionary speak for "foreigners need to conform" or is this yet another phrase that has changed meanings 3 times in the last 3 years BiggerBoat posted:I think it's supposed to mean "a collection of a lot of different races, religions and cultures" You're both right- both meanings have been used over the literal century plus of use, though its roots are in pro-immigrant, but arguably assimilationist, rhetorics that are based in direct American patriotism. There's been commentary like "what we really want is a stew" and similar to push back on the monocultural aspects. The shift to straight xenophobia is relatively recent, iirc. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Aug 23, 2023 |
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BiggerBoat posted:I think it's supposed to mean "a collection of a lot of different races, religions and cultures" I first learned the phrase on School House Rocks when I was a kid and it was presented in a positive light. Everyone conforms a little but brings all their cool culture and food and dances and stuff here and we can learn from those things and hang out and get along Then before the pandemic I definitely saw people on this forum talk about how the phrase is racist and now it means "everyone must speak English and act white" and now I guess the old meaning has been restored? Edit: oh ok thanks
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Yeah I've definitely seen it as a racist dog-whistle "Why can't these (Ethnic group we're mad at today) assimilate like the Irish?" But in the post-Trump world any ethnic group successfully assimilating is in fact part of a plot by nefarious entities to steal Are Wimmin.
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Elephant Ambush posted:I first learned the phrase on School House Rocks when I was a kid and it was presented in a positive light. Everyone conforms a little but brings all their cool culture and food and dances and stuff here and we can learn from those things and hang out and get along Not speaking for everyone but I think I lean towards the definition from the Saturday morning educational cartoon shorts over the Proud Boys version.
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More restaurant choices and discovering creative new swear words are win win in my opinion.
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BiggerBoat posted:Not speaking for everyone but I think I lean towards the definition from the Saturday morning educational cartoon shorts over the Proud Boys version. I agree with you I was just expressing my confusion and it was answered  Panfilo posted:More restaurant choices and discovering creative new swear words are win win in my opinion. 100%
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Elephant Ambush posted:I first learned the phrase on School House Rocks when I was a kid and it was presented in a positive light. Everyone conforms a little but brings all their cool culture and food and dances and stuff here and we can learn from those things and hang out and get along It's pretty much this.
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So Duckshake Milk released another song and it's seemingly more Lukewarm Nothingness Vaguely Political Music packaged in a way boomers and/or conservative white people will lap up like it's genius. I already want that guy to gently caress off and he's only been in the public eye for like, a month at most.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:So Duckshake Milk released another song and it's seemingly more Lukewarm Nothingness Vaguely Political Music packaged in a way boomers and/or conservative white people will lap up like it's genius. You should show greater respect for our 48th president.
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Elephant Ambush posted:I thought "melting pot" was actually reactionary speak for "foreigners need to conform" or is this yet another phrase that has changed meanings 3 times in the last 3 years Maybe I'm getting some of that wrong and maybe he's only thinking of it in terms of exactly 2 words that's just like "yeah, melting pot, multiculturalism is awesome!" but people get different ideas about it because the concept is a bit anachronistic. It originated from a period of trying to encourage national unity when US society was having problems with fragmentation along ethnic lines tying back to regional European ancestry, and it also gets used in ways that imply that Americans have historically had a welcoming attitude toward immigrants, which is not terrifically true. Also one reason that this conception of American society involves not having deep historical roots in the local geography is because it was busy purging the indigenous culture and eventually the indigenous population. OneEightHundred fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Aug 23, 2023 |
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Hey Laura Loomer, how are things going? https://twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1694178235624366266 Cool. Cool.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:So Duckshake Milk released another song and it's seemingly more Lukewarm Nothingness Vaguely Political Music packaged in a way boomers and/or conservative white people will lap up like it's genius. So he's like a non-ironic, political version of Bo Burnham's country singer bit?
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Burnham's bit criticized rich out of touch musicians cosplaying as working class. Oliver Anthony technically it's some nobody out in the middle of Virginia at least which is why I think the right is signal boosting him so hard they can lean heavily on his authenticity. He hasn't yet "sold out" in spite of having the most popular song on several music charts which helps him even further.
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Panfilo posted:Burnham's bit criticized rich out of touch musicians cosplaying as working class. Oliver Anthony technically it's some nobody out in the middle of Virginia at least which is why I think the right is signal boosting him so hard they can lean heavily on his authenticity. He hasn't yet "sold out" in spite of having the most popular song on several music charts which helps him even further. But he is definitely a cousin of the type of artist referenced in the Bo song, IMO.
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https://twitter.com/J6ssicaWatkins/status/1693621311380045909?t=eVDa59oE6m-J6NZbPSXgoA&s=19 Is this officially the gold medal winner in the "leopards eating my face" competition? We all make fun of minority conservatives but there has to be some special award given to a trans conservative that's stupid enough to risk prison while also being even stupider to think she was going to get back up from her "friends" yo put her in the prison of her choice right?
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Mr Interweb posted:We all make fun of minority conservatives but there has to be some special award given to a trans conservative that's stupid enough to risk prison while also being even stupider to think she was going to get back up from her "friends" yo put her in the prison of her choice right? We might actually get bipartisan support for Bureau of Prisons to change its policies out of this, so that's good. And she absolutely deserves to spend the 8-year sentence she earned, in a women's prison.
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BiggerBoat posted:Not speaking for everyone but I think I lean towards the definition from the Saturday morning educational cartoon shorts over the Proud Boys version. Gotta post it, this is what we were being taught before Ronald loving Reagan ruined everything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCJ5qZjHaq4
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mllaneza posted:We might actually get bipartisan support for Bureau of Prisons to change its policies out of this, so that's good. The absolute most she's going to get is an attempt at a pardon.
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Panfilo posted:Man we can only hope Feels good to be past that period where libertarians pretended they were anything but really stupid Republicans
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Name Change posted:Feels good to be past that period where libertarians pretended they were anything but really stupid Republicans They were and always will be Republicans who hated either Weed Criminalization or Age of Consent laws,.
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Name Change posted:Feels good to be past that period where libertarians pretended they were anything but really stupid Republicans The Mises Caucus taking over the party was a big indicator of this, as they started to lean very heavily in culture war stuff. A lot of libertarians now are virulently anti trans and have no problem with directing the violence of the state against them. Particularly once people stopped caring about Covid and their anti Vax/anti mask stances were redundant, they moved to the same right wing boogeymen you see other Republicans targeting.
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LionYeti posted:They were and always will be Republicans who hated ... Age of Consent laws,. That's just Republicans.
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