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GATOS Y VATOS posted:Luffy isn’t racist though. Neither is Huck Finn. Besides, Zoro's the racist one. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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The Orochi death scene looked cool at least
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Last Celebration posted:Jokes aside, Luffy’s a pirate because he wants to be free, the freest man in the world, and a law-abiding citizen can’t really be that because Celestial Dragons. Also it’s easy to forget because he’s the kind of person who’ll only steal gold from people who literally have no concept of it’s use as currency, but he is kind of amoral in his own way, like dude was partly responsible for the biggest prison break in history* and shows no remorse whatsoever. He won’t sit back and watch people be hurt in front of him, but often the plights of entire nations are secondary to his own personal agendas that happen to coincide with said nations. Even if Luffy never showed up at Impel Down, I imagine Blackbeard would've still done his Fight Club, only with the prison not in high alert and maybe they could've sneaked by the guards.
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Infinitum posted:ep 1075 an entire episode of flashback waiting for The Punch It was like that in the manga too
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Mraagvpeine posted:Even if Luffy never showed up at Impel Down, I imagine Blackbeard would've still done his Fight Club, only with the prison not in high alert and maybe they could've sneaked by the guards. Yeah, Magellon getting involved was largely due to Luffy's antics and sneakiness. Blackbeard at least seems to be the type of guy to actually be on the look out for surveillance and who wouldn't go creating massive attention grabbing disturbances. The Darkness fruit also likely would act as a counter to virtually all the traps and attacks they would face prior to breaking out of level 6.
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:Luffy isn’t racist though. I'll leave this here. She goes over huck better than I can https://www.thirteen.org/programs/its-lit/why-do-people-think-huck-finn-is-racist-0rhbwg/
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Infinitum posted:ep 1075 an entire episode of flashback waiting for The Punch Happened in the manga and they did some really cool elaborations that made it better. I think it was pretty good, for a chapter I didn’t like either at the time
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Infinitum posted:ep 1075 an entire episode of flashback waiting for The Punch its still sick
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Julias posted:It was like that in the manga too I mean yeah, and it shouldn't be a surprise how much they're stretching it out at this point, but it's just funny Luffy is effectively hovering in the air for 25min
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I mean it's not like Blackbeard even attempted to stealth his way into Impel Down. Dude literally just kicked the door down and attacked everyone that crossed his path. The fact that there happened to be a breakout happening at the same time was pure coincidence he couldn't possibly have known about going in and was the only reason he made it out alive. It's one of the many like, contradictory things about Blackbeard. He makes a lot of convoluted plans but at the same time his plans also involve a lot of dumb luck (or Fate as he'd call it) to succeed. He wants to recruit guys from Impel Down so he goes "I'll simply invade the prison and defeat anyone that gets in my way" and had no plan for what to do if Magellan showed up and one-shot his entire crew.
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Sep 10, 2023 06:22
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couldnt teach use the darkness to nullify magellans poison while van auger snipes at him
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It is entirely possible that Teach's plan was to basically go up to Impel Down, ask he if could go down to Level 6, and then do his fight club with Megellan and Hannyabal none the wiser, with a whole lot of "FATE" filling in the gaps. This is deeply stupid but it's about the level of planning most of Teach's schemes have.
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Sep 10, 2023 06:27
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all this impel talk just makes me miss the star of that arc - Bon Clay for a wordy manga the wordless panels of him fighting regular rear end wolves all the more outstanding
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Drakkel posted:I mean it's not like Blackbeard even attempted to stealth his way into Impel Down. Dude literally just kicked the door down and attacked everyone that crossed his path. The fact that there happened to be a breakout happening at the same time was pure coincidence he couldn't possibly have known about going in and was the only reason he made it out alive. All of blackbeards plays are the fastest shortcuts to power, and probably the best ones, but they're still risky as hell
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Last Celebration posted:Jokes aside, Luffy’s a pirate because he wants to be free, the freest man in the world, and a law-abiding citizen can’t really be that because Celestial Dragons. Also it’s easy to forget because he’s the kind of person who’ll only steal gold from people who literally have no concept of it’s use as currency, but he is kind of amoral in his own way, like dude was partly responsible for the biggest prison break in history* and shows no remorse whatsoever. He won’t sit back and watch people be hurt in front of him, but often the plights of entire nations are secondary to his own personal agendas that happen to coincide with said nations. I dig all this fine One Piece talk in here, yes indeedy. Not to focus on one detail, but for me I don't think Luffy had those worldly reasons for being a pirate, right? We didn't learn about the Celestial Dragons until way later, and I know they had the flashback arc that filled in a bit more of his tough childhood. But overall he had very innocent and fun naive reasons for wanting to be a pirate. I like that Luffy has this kind of eccentric lovable way of looking at the world. Luffy decided to be a pirate when he was a little kid is my point pretty much, and even as an adult he seems very much like a doesn't mind the details kind of guy. It's cool rebellion and it added some oomph as the series went on and he declared war with the government and all that rad stuff. I just don't think that's at the heart of his thing. I think he'd want to be free and do this pirate thing even if the government was fairly sensible and non-corrupt. But it certainly adds something to the mix. Amoral is a cool way to put it, I guess I just look at him a bit differently. Part of the magic of a character like Luffy is the space left to read stuff into it. I think he's single-minded, makes his calls from his gut in the moment, and does the best he can with what he's got. Sometimes that can get messy, like you're saying. If say some of the escaped people from Impel Down go on to hurt others etc. But I like that Luffy isn't perfect, I don't think he's amoral myself, I just think he in a way compromised since he made the best call he could in a dire situation. Plus there's this I guess innately naive or innocent thing where he would hope for good in everyone, especially when most needed. But it is true he'll break some eggs for that omelette, and he's one bad mother. Upsidads posted:I always saw Luffy as Huck Finn I like the sound of that. Although his Kenshiro ways of cracking his knuckles and toppling the local despot guy to save the downtrodden locals isn't very chaos-y. But Luffy definitely has a lot of nuances to him over the years.
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Sep 10, 2023 07:39
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Luffy can't even pronounce libertarian
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He's got twaibs style ussop has his linguistic flare though
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Big "cool pirate" government, pirately social democracy, universal income because having a job isn't fun, and you need to chase your dreams.
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The One Piece is a threat to the World Government. Seeking the One Piece is opposing the government. Luffy is engaging in fundamentally illegal activities and the government is going to label him a pirate. Plus, the first thing he did was raid a Navy base.
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Speaking of Huck Finn, fitting to the thread that the 80s anime version of Tom Sawyer is the one on my to-do list. I hear that's a cool one.Eiba posted:The One Piece is a threat to the World Government. Seeking the One Piece is opposing the government. Luffy is engaging in fundamentally illegal activities and the government is going to label him a pirate. For sure. I was just mentioning, I think the increasingly messed up world government came to light futher into the series. And maybe Oda figured that out along the way. Morgan could have been a rogue corrupt guy in an otherwise kind of ok government when the series started. And I don't think the messed up stuff like the Celestial Dragons were in mind when he decided to become a pirate as a kid. I don't think anybody would say that Luffy wasn't happy to be an outlaw from day one, just talking about his motivations for choosing that life. Technically the first thing he did officially officially on his journey was punch a sea king. Then punch Alvida etc.
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I love that the very first friend Luffy makes on his journey turns out to have the dream of being a great marine, an occupation in complete opposition to Luffy's chosen way of life, and Luffy's reaction is,"Awesome! Go for it dude, you're gonna do great!"
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Gyges posted:Hasn't Luffy talked about taking gold, not just finding it, before? Yup, he woke Nami from her sleep to say 'ayo let's steal some Skypeia gold' and then they booked it when they thought they were gonna be caught Only to run away from a MASSIVE pillar of gold from said Skypeians who were gonna give it to them as a gift 
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when was the last time the strawhats even acquired money, anyway? thriller bark?
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Whatever your opinion on ep 1075 the cinematography was insanely good. Just in general, let alone as an episode of a weekly aired interminable shonen cartoon.
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White Light posted:Yup, he woke Nami from her sleep to say 'ayo let's steal some Skypeia gold' and then they booked it when they thought they were gonna be caught the pillar is one of my favorite plot points in One Piece, because it’s 99% likely that when Bellamy took the “you’ll definitely get there but everyone’s gonna die on the way up” route to Skypeia, he told the Skypeians he was a pirate and they immediately went “oh poo poo, you must know Luffy, can you take this pillar of gold down to the blue sea to him?”
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If you called Luffy a libertarian he’d say “Go ask Robin you need a book.”
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Red Shoes Zeff sounds so silly.
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Otoh being called “Red Foot” because your feet are caked in the blood of your foes kinda goes hard.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:when was the last time the strawhats even acquired money, anyway? thriller bark? They have to be earning money off panel because just the bill for the food, booze, and cola has got to be a fortune. Hell, they might be getting some unofficial government "loans" from several grateful and rich monarchs. Either way, we've only been told the crew account balance twice, and that was two years ago. If nothing else Brook has to rich as gently caress, and there's no way Nami didn't make money during the time skip.
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The WG definitely seized Brook's accounts when they figured out he was a Straw Hat
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Eiba posted:The One Piece is a threat to the World Government. Seeking the One Piece is opposing the government. Luffy is engaging in fundamentally illegal activities and the government is going to label him a pirate. To be fair though the WG is corrupt as gently caress with an entire subset of people that are entirely above the law (even Garp and Smoker have a pretty low opinion of them despite continuing to serve as Marines), also considering that researching the Void Century is a crime punishable by mass genocide they're likely illegitimate as well. Otherwise, aside from Nami being a thief (which I think was dropped not long after Arlong Park) I don't really remember the Strawhats really engaging in any other acts of piracy. Larryb fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Sep 10, 2023 |
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- Broke out 1000 criminals from Impel Down - I was gonna write a list of more piratey things done, but that was all I could think of.
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Bisse posted:- Broke out 1000 criminals from Impel Down Oh yeah, that too
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They stole my heart
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Wanna see Luffy and Guybrush meet
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Larryb posted:To be fair though the WG is corrupt as gently caress with an entire subset of people that are entirely above the law (even Garp and Smoker have a pretty low opinion of them despite continuing to serve as Marines), also considering that researching the Void Century is a crime punishable by mass genocide they're likely illegitimate as well. Otherwise, aside from Nami being a thief (which I think was dropped not long after Arlong Park) I don't really remember the Strawhats really engaging in any other acts of piracy.
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Luffy and Chopper ate a civilian house.
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Wanton destruction of Onigashima, which was private property legally ceded to Kaidou by the governingbody of the land
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