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What about it
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Sep 14, 2023 03:35
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Drakkel posted:They will probably edit the bit where Usopp tells Luffy to wear an afro because it'll make him punch like a black person, yes. this is a reference to afro'd okinawan/japanese boxing legend yoko gushiken, not a race thing
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Sep 14, 2023 03:38
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Waffleman_ posted:what about punk hazard fits in with Dressrosa. More than a lot of the stories in OP, Punk Hazard could be condensed into two episodes. Again, would love if they took their time and gave it more breathing room, but I'm expecting a continuation of "A Series of Unfortunate Events" treatment here, where each book got two ep'd.
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Sep 14, 2023 03:40
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and then zou is the first couple of whole cake. ezpz
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Sep 14, 2023 03:44
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Waffleman_ posted:I mean that wasn't even a thing mikeycp posted:this is a reference to afro'd okinawan/japanese boxing legend yoko gushiken, not a race thing Yeah, this was a reference to a specific Japanese boxing champion, the translators just decided to do the race thing because reference to specific Japanese boxing champions probably don't "localise" well outside Japan. Also I definitely expect season 2 is Loguetown (1 episode), Whiskey Peak and Laboon combined (1 episode and have Whiskey Peak be built around the exit of the reverse mountain instead of the first island in the chain), Little Garden (1 episode) Drum Island (1 episode), Alabasta (4 Episodes). With some room to increase one of the early islands to 2 episodes and reduce Alabasta to 3, if they only get 8 again, if they get 10 then Drum and Loguetown get 2 episodes each. Also probably have Robin be more prominent as part of Baroque Works as a management figure, basically she'd be doing all the talking for Crocodile before Alabasta to the other agents, giving them missions and stuff so that she and Smoker can have half the B Plot time each (since I suspect Smoker chasing the Straw Hats will be substituted in for Koby/Helmeppo/Garp doing that). I think we're likely to get a Marine antagonist and a Pirate final boss for each live action series, if they can. Or something close to that. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Sep 14, 2023 |
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Sep 14, 2023 03:46
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lmao at the idea that that era of one piece scanlators were interested in anything except literal translation. they just didn't know
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Sep 14, 2023 03:48
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Resuming OPLA and goddamn Kuro complaining about his 16 million bounty is so funny what a loving chump
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Sep 14, 2023 03:49
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mikeycp posted:this is a reference to afro'd okinawan/japanese boxing legend yoko gushiken, not a race thing Oh, had no idea! Interestin'
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Sep 14, 2023 03:50
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Oh noooo, I'm Captain Kuwo, things are too spicy in the weakest sea in the world oh nooooooooooo I'm soooooooo scared 
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Sep 14, 2023 03:51
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Waffleman_ posted:Oh noooo, I'm Captain Kuwo, things are too spicy in the weakest sea in the world oh nooooooooooo I'm soooooooo scared marines start getting bounties and they start getting scared too
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Sep 14, 2023 03:56
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I mean they're cops that's to be expected. Cops are cowards.
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Sep 14, 2023 03:57
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Alvida and Buggy wore their bounties with greater dignity than Kuro.
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Sep 14, 2023 04:02
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Funky Valentine posted:Alvida and Buggy wore their bounties with greater dignity than Kuro. Alvida's terror on the seas was born of her ego, while Buggy served with Gol D. Roger on his crew, and while he lost his way, never lost his spark. That's why he clowned on Crocodile and Mihawk.
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Sep 14, 2023 04:10
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Where's the TCB scan assholes.
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Sep 14, 2023 04:27
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Where's the TCB scan assholes. If you want my scans, they're yours for the taking! I left everything I translated in one site, now you just have to find it!
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Sep 14, 2023 04:28
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Waffleman_ posted:If you want my scans, they're yours for the taking! I left everything I translated in one site, now you just have to find it! Bitch I'mma Gum-Gum you to the moon.
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Sep 14, 2023 04:28
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Where's the TCB scan assholes. In like 12-14 hours
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Sep 14, 2023 04:29
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Important context: I watched One Piece when it first aired on Fox Kids. I then followed it to subs and watched it to the end of Marineford. Then, I went to college and forgot about. I just got back into it this week after watching the Live Action show last week. I am watching One Pace to speed things up. The Noah has just enteted the bubble, Hody was defeated, and the squid, invisible guy, octopus, and umi bozo were just defeated. I really don't know what to make of One Piece's race metaphor. Like, in some readings it can be even victim blaming or claiming modern generations fighting against racism have no personal experience with it. But I feel that's unfair to Oda. The Fishman are abused by humans and it isn't unreasonable for kids to grow up resenting the mistreatment. Yes, seeking revenge will not solve that problem but I also have never met an activist who actually wants revenge. The villians represent extremist raced on fishmen-superority propaganda but that propaganda is a bigoted reactionary movement from human bigotry. I can't decide how to fall on it. I feel oddly uncomfortable. There are moments where it feels right. Like, I knew Hody was going to say he was driven by no personal bad experience with humans because he was clearly a bigot. But then it shows him having to grow up hearing about others being mistreated by humans and that actually happening so...that is kind of personal experience? Like, just cause it's second hand doesn't mean you didn't grow up hearing your people were mistreated and enslaved. Like, the fear that breeds is still a personal experience. Speaking from experience as someone whose had to hide to survive in my own country. It feels...off. Like, I can't decide how to feel about it. I don't know. Just wanted to share.
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Sep 14, 2023 05:10
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Lord_Magmar posted:Also I definitely expect season 2 is Loguetown (1 episode), Whiskey Peak and Laboon combined (1 episode and have Whiskey Peak be built around the exit of the reverse mountain instead of the first island in the chain), Little Garden (1 episode) Drum Island (1 episode), Alabasta (4 Episodes). With some room to increase one of the early islands to 2 episodes and reduce Alabasta to 3, if they only get 8 again, if they get 10 then Drum and Loguetown get 2 episodes each. loguetown is tiny, there's no reason for it to be more than one episode. CatstropheWaitress posted:imo that no one asked for, you could do some of those would either be impossibly condensed or require making the seasons longer to the point that you may as well just have two seasons. my take would be something like this, not that i expect it'll get anywhere close to this far: loguetown to alabasta would be possible in 8 episodes but you'd probably want to give drum island a second episode and another for alabasta wouldn't hurt jaya + skypiea. maybe throw in davy back fight at the end if you have room but i'd expect that'll be cut completely water 7 + enies lobby, but this is probably a lot for 8 episodes even with the expected condensation thriller bark + sabaody. maybe even amazon lily would fit but the kuma fight as a cliffhanger would be ideal amazon lily/impel down/marineford/straw hat separation side stories fishman island + punk hazard dressrosa zou + whole cake island wano these are all in the ballpark of 100 chapters each. fishman island & punk hazard could definitely be done in 2 episodes each but i don't think you easily fit all of dressrosa in 4 episodes, there's just a stupid amount going on there even if you cut out the relatively extraneous parts. it could be all one season with a few more episodes though idk. i figure you'd probably expand the straw hats under sanji going to zou during dressrosa too. i don't think bon clay is really too hard to adapt in a way that doesn't come across as offensive (drag queen and/or making him explicitly non-binary, rejecting the idea of gender entirely). the kamabakka kingdom would obviously need a massive rework no matter what though, or probably even complete replacement because it's basically just a 'sanji is homophobic/transphobic' gag that idk how you could possibly fix.
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Sep 14, 2023 05:11
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Waffleman_ posted:Resuming OPLA and goddamn Kuro complaining about his 16 million bounty is so funny Edit: lih posted:i don't think bon clay is really too hard to adapt in a way that doesn't come across as offensive (drag queen and/or making him explicitly non-binary, rejecting the idea of gender entirely). the kamabakka kingdom would obviously need a massive rework no matter what though, or probably even complete replacement because it's basically just a 'sanji is homophobic/transphobic' gag that idk how you could possibly fix. I actually think the setting is pretty cool, I just hate Sanji in that context, not the setting. Eiba fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Sep 14, 2023 |
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Sep 14, 2023 05:15
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make everyone on kamabakka super hot and sanji's actions read very differently
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Sep 14, 2023 05:20
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Iirc there was a One Piece game that allowed you to beat up pirates and turn in the bounties, with the joke being that after red tape and fees you picked up like 5000 off a 5 million bounty.
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Sep 14, 2023 05:27
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That was Odyssey
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I got so angry at the lack of a TCB chapter that I read Nami's backstory up to where she asks Luffy for help and I'm crying.
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Sep 14, 2023 05:46
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Eiba posted:Fixing Kamabakka is super easy: make the okama cool flamboyant campy people, and make Sanji resist some other trivial matter of personal pride, like their overuse of oregano or something. yeah i guess you could do something like that. it's not really hard to make the setting work (queer paradise where the gender binary doesn't exist is pretty easy), just having it work in relation to sanji is what seemed like the problem to me. Covok posted:Important context: I watched One Piece when it first aired on Fox Kids. I then followed it to subs and watched it to the end of Marineford. Then, I went to college and forgot about. I just got back into it this week after watching the Live Action show last week. I am watching One Pace to speed things up. The Noah has just enteted the bubble, Hody was defeated, and the squid, invisible guy, octopus, and umi bozo were just defeated. yeah it's pretty clumsy. i get what it's going for with hody being a reactionary response to the racism of humans, only interested in revenge instead of liberation, but the execution is pretty messy. for example, all the stuff about otohime urging everyone not to be angry at the humans and forgive them, and not really distinguishing between righteous anger and hody & arlong's reactionary ideology of superiority?
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Sep 14, 2023 05:47
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Eiichiro Oda was telling a very complicated story with Fishman Island so I can understand the difficulty of knowing what was being gone for, thankfully I think we can look at the whole of One Piece to decipher the Enigma. Racism is Bad, Slavery is Bad.
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Sep 14, 2023 06:32
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https://tcbscans.com/chapters/7484/one-piece-chapter-1092?date=13-9-2023-22 tcb version
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Sep 14, 2023 06:45
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hoby hear sabout bad things that happened and it makes him a racist. otohime hears about how humans killed her mother for no good reason and sees how the hatred poisoned her family, and chooses to move forward. thats the point. hes meant to mirror her, and his racism isnt meant to be graded as justified/unjustified, but as reactionary and harmful to the fishmen themselves. if you want to try to spiral that off into some kind of dialogue about respectability politics or something then sure whatever, but oda is from a pretty monoethnic place and i dont think his considerations went to that point.
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Sep 14, 2023 06:50
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it's really weird that the entire fishman island arc was basically about how otohime was right. because she wasn't right, as oda has continually demonstrated ever since. fishmen can't make peace with the celestial dragons because celestial dragons don't view anyone as people. you can't make peace with someone that sees you as livestock. sure, it's possible to get through to an individual here and there, but the monstrous society built around the celestial dragons have ways of dealing with such abnormalities.
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Sep 14, 2023 07:30
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Waffleman_ posted:what about punk hazard
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Sep 14, 2023 07:41
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Blooming Brilliant posted:I got you friendo. Thank you, may I please have the next one now?
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Sep 14, 2023 07:47
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I know it's Akainu himself referencing Kuma, but a panel of Akainu in frame with the words "You're just a damned puppet now" is 
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Covok posted:Important context: I watched One Piece when it first aired on Fox Kids. I then followed it to subs and watched it to the end of Marineford. Then, I went to college and forgot about. I just got back into it this week after watching the Live Action show last week. I am watching One Pace to speed things up. The Noah has just enteted the bubble, Hody was defeated, and the squid, invisible guy, octopus, and umi bozo were just defeated. its off because its real in a way this genre never is edit: i’ll clarify. the fishmen are only a metaphor for racism at first. thats to ease you in to a dialectical understanding of the world. then you really start to know the evil of the world government and the celestial dragons…..as it were scary ghost dog fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Sep 14, 2023 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it's really weird that the entire fishman island arc was basically about how otohime was right. because she wasn't right, as oda has continually demonstrated ever since. fishmen can't make peace with the celestial dragons because celestial dragons don't view anyone as people. you can't make peace with someone that sees you as livestock. sure, it's possible to get through to an individual here and there, but the monstrous society built around the celestial dragons have ways of dealing with such abnormalities. I thought Otohime wasn’t portrayed as wholly right; Fisher Tiger had a point too, largely for the same reasons you point out.
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Sep 14, 2023 08:17
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Silver2195 posted:I thought Otohime wasn’t portrayed as wholly right; Fisher Tiger had a point too, largely for the same reasons you point out. Yeah, this is something I really appreciate about the Fishman Island arc. It suggests both the agitator and the pacifist are roles which are vital for bringing about meaningful change, with the agitator being more vital for overcoming oppression and the pacifist being more vital for keeping that agitation from perpetuating after it's no longer needed, and instead promoting equality. Edit: Yes this is an oversimplification and isn't how things ended up playing out in the series but these things don't happen all at once anyway - change is a series of small battles, small steps which add up to something bigger over time. jassa fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Sep 14, 2023 |
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Sep 14, 2023 08:38
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Covok posted:Important context: I watched One Piece when it first aired on Fox Kids. I then followed it to subs and watched it to the end of Marineford. Then, I went to college and forgot about. I just got back into it this week after watching the Live Action show last week. I am watching One Pace to speed things up. The Noah has just enteted the bubble, Hody was defeated, and the squid, invisible guy, octopus, and umi bozo were just defeated.
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jassa posted:Yeah, this is something I really appreciate about the Fishman Island arc. It suggests both the agitator and the pacifist are roles which are vital for bringing about meaningful change, with the agitator being more vital for overcoming oppression and the pacifist being more vital for keeping that agitation from perpetuating after it's no longer needed, and instead promoting equality. change could have been that, yes. but then they introduced shanks' dad, the guy who executes any celestial dragons who take those small steps.
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New chapter rules. Glad Gear 4 isn't being kept locked away behind some meaningless power-up requirement and he can just do it wheneverBisse posted:I don’t know if One Pace cut that or not, though. In the manga he was more personally removed from it and the ”inherited hate” plot line was much clearer. I watched the One Pace cut semi-recently, and he was very much gently caress All Non-Fishmen in it.
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Wii Spawn Camper posted:Hmm nice words, but they deleted Gaimon so obviously this is a lie I’m thinking there’s some sort of relationship between kizaru and vegapunk, since the lazer beams are based on his devil fruit powers. We got a bit more aokiji backstory during the last cutaway, maybe this time we get something with kizaru/kuma/bonnie?
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