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Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Kesper North posted:

"This is the gothest book I have ever read. Possibly the gothest book ever written."
Fair.

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Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

M_Gargantua posted:

That ones important because the brain damage doesn't autotranslate it

Imagine trying to explain your dad joke to someone and it literally makes then start to bleed out their ears.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Entropic posted:

Imagine trying to explain your dad joke to someone and it literally makes then start to bleed out their ears.

Wait that doesn't happen to everyone else when they tell dad jokes?

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks
Added links to all 3 short stories to the OP.

Saraiguma
Oct 2, 2014


it really is a book about loss

edit:

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
I was wondering how Muir would incorporate the greatest meme of our generation, Loss.

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




Skibidi toilet references when.


More seriously though, is there an official date for when this universe diverges from our own? Is Jod going to be spouting new dank memes from the 2020s?

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

No need for that if Jod was just terminally out of date even before the end of the world.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Saraiguma posted:


it really is a book about loss

edit:

:commissar:

Hargrimm
Sep 22, 2011

W A R R E N

Lead out in cuffs posted:


More seriously though, is there an official date for when this universe diverges from our own? Is Jod going to be spouting new dank memes from the 2020s?

I think I remember seeing someone establish a rough era based on John remembering attending some real New Zealand-based festival as a teenager, when that festival went defunct in the mid-oughts or something like that.

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


Yeah, he went underage drinking at Parachute, which means he was born no later than 1996, but in general I'd say he was probably born between '87 and '92.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

cptn_dr posted:

Yeah, he went underage drinking at Parachute, which means he was born no later than 1996, but in general I'd say he was probably born between '87 and '92.

Christ, it's uncomfortable to think that the necromantic god-king of the next 10,000 years is younger than me.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


Hmm I was thinking those flashbacks/memories were closer to the end of the 21st century I don't think we'll have FTL ships within the next couple decades

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Soonmot posted:

Was this animatic ever posted here? I didn't remember seeing it when I went the thread a few months ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hRRtKfJdhI

I don't think so, and that's a pro-click. Good choice of music, good scripting in the scenes chosen to tell the story with, and I very much like the character designs they're using.

e. Not in the last 8 days anyway, it's a new video.

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Lead out in cuffs posted:

More seriously though, is there an official date for when this universe diverges from our own? Is Jod going to be spouting new dank memes from the 2020s?

I envisioned the flashbacks as happening somewhere vaguely 2070-2100ish based on how bad the climate had gotten - even if the powers that be continue doing as awful a job on this front as they are currently, we should be several decades out from conditions that'll make rich countries really panic in the way the book depicts

(poor countries less so, but global capital will simply ignore escalating misery there)

but that doesn't square with posters more knowledgeable about NZ affairs who are saying John had to be born in the 1980s or 90s, I don't think he's meant to be an 80something wizened elder in the flashbacks

gonna wave my hands in the air and declare that canon is a fake idea anyway, Muir probably ain't working from a precise timeline

cptn_dr posted:

Yeah, he went underage drinking at Parachute, which means he was born no later than 1996, but in general I'd say he was probably born between '87 and '92.

how likely do you reckon it is that someone revives this festival in the future

PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Sep 16, 2023

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




It's sci fi. The world can end sooner than in realistic climate scenarios because the author needed it to.

Also, we only have John's word about how the world was ending. For all we know, it could have been caused by his necromantic bullshit in the first place.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
Well it's both. He necromantically caused the nuclear war

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


He didn't cause the climate disaster that began before he was born but yeah he did admit to destroying the whole solar system and while he could be lying about that, the truth would have to be pretty bad to be worse

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

FuturePastNow posted:

he did admit to destroying the whole solar system and while he could be lying about that, the truth would have to be pretty bad to be worse

that sounds like a challenge,

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


PupsOfWar posted:


how likely do you reckon it is that someone revives this festival in the future

Well, it is a Christian rock festival, they're pretty big on resurrections...

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer
just started my first relisten to Harrow and why exactly did her note tell her to check Ianthe's skull?

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

Soonmot posted:

just started my first relisten to Harrow and why exactly did her note tell her to check Ianthe's skull?

Harrow had used a bone spell on Ianthes jaw to keep her from spilling the secrets and ruining everything. So that had to be intact

Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Sep 17, 2023

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Harold Fjord posted:

Harrow had used a bone spell on Ianthes jaw to keep her from spilling the secrets and ruining everything. So that had to be intact

YOU ENSORCELLED MY JAW, YOU INSANE BITCH

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




sebmojo posted:

YOU ENSORCELLED MY JAW, YOU INSANE BITCH

every line from her is such solid gold

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
when three people start kissing it is always a cue. A cue to leave.

DreamingofRoses
Jun 27, 2013
Nap Ghost
Just finished The Unwanted Guest and I’m so curious about the deal Dulcinea made to apparently become ‘angelic’ and remove herself from the River for good. Her dying the second death.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

DreamingofRoses posted:

Just finished The Unwanted Guest and I’m so curious about the deal Dulcinea made to apparently become ‘angelic’ and remove herself from the River for good. Her dying the second death.

She made a deal with Aradia.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
Getting to the end of Harrow and it's funny that the ghosts of the cavaliers kicked seven shades of poo poo out of the resurrection beast in the river. which goes back to how Jod is an idiot who did all of this backwards. and as I type I remember G.1 telling Harrow to use more thalergy.

Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Sep 18, 2023

Rogue AI Goddess
May 10, 2012

I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?
As a plural system with DID, I found certain characters in Nona (and to a lesser extent, Harrow) relatable and jarring in equal measure.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Happy Landfill posted:

If anyone is interested in what Homestuck is about but are unsure about actually reading because it's a) kind of an undertaking and b)maybe you're not that interested in actually reading it yourself, I highly recommend the Homestuck Made This World podcast. It's hosted by two media scholars, one of whom read it live and the other is reading it for the first time, and they go through and recontextualize it historically, based on what was going on in pop culture and the internet as it was being written. GtN is name dropped a couple times and one episode points out bits of HS writing that probably, most definitely inspired HtN. One of their patreon bonus eps also goes over the fanfic Tamsyn is most famous for writing. One of the hosts is a goon and uses the old HS threads as sort of an anchor for what was going on in parts of the fandom as things were happening. It's a great podcast and I'd highly recommend it, if I haven't already done so in this very thread.

Edit: speaking of which, I would be very interested in Michael's take on Unwanted Guest, given that he specializes in Shakespearean literature

Just want to bring this back up, I started the first episode and it's very funny how many times they mention SA.

Seems extremely well made, I'll plan on listening to the run.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
Further musings from my partner as she reads Gideon:

quote:

Harrow just supposed that the true answer to the puzzles is to find out where they get the thanergy. The 6th thinks its unsustainable. I think they're both right and, as a people, they use conquest as a source of thanergy.

quote:

Also, of all the horrible and bloody things that have happened, Dulcinea's house deliberately breeding necromancers so they are prone to cancer and thus slowly dying and producing their own power as they do so, is the worst.

I said in response "You may be getting the impression that the Nine Houses are, in fact, the baddies." She replied:

quote:

I'd been getting that impression for a while... and I'm betting the First House is the worst of the lot.

:allears:

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




I can't wait for the reveals in Harrow :3:

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

silvergoose posted:

I can't wait for the reveals in Harrow :3:

ME EITHER

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

I have a friend going through Harrow for the first time and is ... I dunno trying to act like they're "getting it" on the first read through by pointing out all the things they're catching. It's kind of amusing, though it's certainly not how I've enjoyed reading the series (which is more "the more times I read these the more fun I have. That's cool.")

Anyways I responded to the latest update by asking about their thoughts on the scene with Silas in the Canaan House plotline, since I think that's one of the more important, albeit very short, scenes that clued me in to what was really going on. They didn't pick up on anything about it really.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

Rogue AI Goddess posted:

As a plural system with DID, I found certain characters in Nona (and to a lesser extent, Harrow) relatable and jarring in equal measure.

That would check out, considering the author's note following Harrow.

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

PupsOfWar posted:

I envisioned the flashbacks as happening somewhere vaguely 2070-2100ish based on how bad the climate had gotten - even if the powers that be continue doing as awful a job on this front as they are currently, we should be several decades out from conditions that'll make rich countries really panic in the way the book depicts

I dunno, so far we are outstripping our own predictions pretty consistently.

I haven't read Nona yet so I won't comment further.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


I am re-reading Gideon after finishing Nona and it's fun spotting little clues, like Dulcinea saying she feels like she's been sick "ten thousand years"

FuturePastNow fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Sep 19, 2023

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









FuturePastNow posted:

I am re-reading Gideon after finishing Nona and it's fun spotting little clues, like Dulcinea saying she feels like she's been sick "ten thousand years"

yeah it's littered with easter eggs. am i right that dulcinea/cyth never actually lies? i feel like that was something i noticed.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
Yes

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silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




sebmojo posted:

yeah it's littered with easter eggs. am i right that dulcinea/cyth never actually lies? i feel like that was something i noticed.

She said as much, even!

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