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Tampa Bae posted:He already knows how Oden's journey and ultimately, the One Piece story ends Momonosuke states in Chapter 1041 that the pages where Oden detailed what was on Laugh Tale were torn out, and he doesn't know what the One Piece is. Presumably, neither does Yamato. Bleck fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Sep 20, 2023 |
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It's the name of the treasure in the Grand Line, didn't you hear the song?
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Tampa Bae posted:I thought Yamoto's decision not to go was pretty clear. He already knows how Oden's journey and ultimately, the One Piece story ends and thought it would be better to stay behind and help rebuild Wano and atone for his father's sins/be the protector that Oden could've been. Luffy's already shown he has no interest in being told what the end is, Raleigh tried and Luffy said no so Yamato wouldn't add much to the crew other than being a massive club-swinging oni which fills the same slot as Zoro being a skinny sword-swinging oni-giri This post is giving me traumatic flashbacks to my early days in the fandom when people were swearing up and down that Franky couldn't join the crew because he just punches people like Luffy. They already have someone who punches. Clearly Paulie, with his unique way of fighting using ropes, was going to be the shipwright.
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Sep 20, 2023 04:49
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inshallah paulie still can be
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Eiba posted:I feel like you forgot he's got mythical zoan ice powers, among other things.
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Sep 20, 2023 05:05
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It still feels weird that one of the only villains to explicitly die was essentially a jobber minion
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Tampa Bae posted:You reminding me of Ice powers reminds me of Monet who was one of the coolest villains in the series and had her own heart stabbed and how people were swearing that her fruit would appear in Nami's orange tree for some reason people thought that because of the ancient devil fruit number theory
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Sep 20, 2023 05:40
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I also remember people theorizing Vivi was gonna get Monet's fruit somehow and rejoin the crew and I don't even remember how they came to this conclusion
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anime was right posted:people thought that because of the ancient devil fruit number theory
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Tampa Bae posted:I thought the number theory was supposed to be Franky getting Kuma's fruit it was anyone getting kumas fruit or kuma joining, it wasnt super specific as long as it was his fruit on the crew
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Sep 20, 2023 05:51
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Wano's end was just a weird uncharacteristically an unsatisfying resolve to anything that wasn't Kaido getting punched hard. Yamato's decision to stay makes sense, but the way it was presented made it feel like a last minute revision... just a ton of build up to the character wanting to go out to sea, being Oden, seeing the lengths Oden went too to join a crew... only to change his mind in a few panels w/o any indication of that inner conflict or time to reflect on the sacrifice he's making. Same w/ the SMILE citizens, Zoro's whole deal with his village being descendants of Wano folk, Sanji feeding the starving populace, the kid being of the same clan as the bad Shogun, etc. etc. Given we're so close to the end game, and that Wano clearly has a role to play in it, expecting Yamato to show up as part of the Strawhat Grand Fleet for the grande finale. But does still feel like a shame that he's staying supporting cast.
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Sep 20, 2023 06:02
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It really did feel like Oda went "this is getting way too long, I've gotta move on" Which I suppose is fair, I'd like to avoid any more four year long arcs if we can in the final saga
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Waffleman_ posted:It really did feel like Oda went "this is getting way too long, I've gotta move on"
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CatstropheWaitress posted:
I actually liked that for Zoro. The backstory is a fun detail but it doesn't matter to him in the least so why dwell on it. Though I suspect we'll get a flashback to show us what happened during the whole death thing at some point. So it's possible he got to talk to his ancestors or there was otherwise some sort of resolution for it there. I agree the rest of it was pretty rushed though. Regarding Yamato, he absolutely had a unique role on the crew. He would have been the one to record their travels, since that's what Oden did for Roger's crew. I suppose he could still do it after the fact but yeah it sucks he's not officially joining. But I guess since we are likely to see a ton of people pop up during the final conflicts, it won't be long until his return at least. It's not a guarantee that being an official Strawhat would have given him much more screen time anyways. Given how a lot of these arcs go anyways.
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Sep 20, 2023 06:53
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Turns out Yamato is the Narrator. Which means, canonically, Yamato has Ian McShane's voice. How do you like them apples horny dorks arguing about his pronouns because of how tight your pants are?
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Honestly the part I found more discordant was Ryokugyu showing up for one chapter to scream about how classism and discrimination is Based, actually and then running away immediately once Shanks flexes his gains. Okay, thanks. See ya, dude.
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By current precedent, we will learn Ryokugyu's backstory in a flashback 13 years from now in Chapter 1850
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Drakkel posted:I also remember people theorizing Vivi was gonna get Monet's fruit somehow and rejoin the crew and I don't even remember how they came to this conclusion Sounds cool, I believe thiis now.
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Sep 20, 2023 11:08
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Really wanna see Vivi break out her yo-yos again
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She doesn't use yo yos?
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Cat Machine posted:By current precedent, we will learn Ryokugyu's backstory in a flashback 13 years from now in Chapter 1850 In the middle of the eight battle of the fourth section of a 180 chapters long arc, involving three opposite sides and a total of 42 main characters.
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YggdrasilTM posted:In the middle of the eight battle of the fourth section of a 180 chapters long arc, involving opposite three sides and a total of 42 main characters. And Robin still barely gets a fight.
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YggdrasilTM posted:In the middle of the eight battle of the fourth section of a 180 chapters long arc, involving three opposite sides and a total of 42 main characters.
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Also, half of the Straw Hats are stuck somewhere they need to come out to join the battle, one fourth of them have been fighting for like 20 chapters with no end in sight, and the other ones are running somewhere, maybe chased.
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Sep 20, 2023 11:30
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anime was right posted:it was anyone getting kumas fruit or kuma joining, it wasnt super specific as long as it was his fruit on the crew There's a decent chance Vivi ends up with Kuma's fruit... especially since her ancestor likely used it to scatter the poneglyphs.
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YggdrasilTM posted:Also, half of the Straw Hats are stuck somewhere they need to come out to join the battle, one fourth of them have been fighting for like 20 chapters with no end in sight, and the other ones are running somewhere, maybe chased.
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Yamato's decision not to come with the Straw Hats hurt a lot in the moment, cause he's such a loving awesome character. But the framing around the decision makes perfect sense for him and Momo and Wano. Feels like we will be set for Yamato showing up captaining Pluton for the Straw Hat Grand Fleet in the endgame, and that will loving rule. As long as he ends up on the crew for the end it's good.
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JuniperCake posted:It's not a guarantee that being an official Strawhat would have given him much more screen time anyways. Given how a lot of these arcs go anyways. If you want to be cynical you could say he didn't want somebody to come onboard who could in theory displace one of the "monster three." And the joke answer is Oda knew we didn't need ANOTHER dude on the ship. Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Sep 20, 2023 |
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Gully Foyle posted:Yamato's decision not to come with the Straw Hats hurt a lot in the moment, cause he's such a loving awesome character. But the framing around the decision makes perfect sense for him and Momo and Wano. Feels like we will be set for Yamato showing up captaining Pluton for the Straw Hat Grand Fleet in the endgame, and that will loving rule. As long as he ends up on the crew for the end it's good. Speaking of Pluton, my current theory is that Cross Guild is Wano bound, so whilst I'm sad Yamato didn't join the Straw Hats, Yamato vs. Crocodile or Mihawk? Yes please 
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Blooming Brilliant posted:Yamato vs. Crocodile  Crocodile: yeah same
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Yeah I assume a lot of the straw hat ally characters will be drawn into the final battle with the World Government in some way
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Vivi is absolutely going to link back up with Luffy at some point at least
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Larryb posted:Vivi is absolutely going to link back up with Luffy at some point at least with wapol at her side lol
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I hope Carue’s ok, I don’t think we’ve seen him since the Reverie if I remember right
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Hey, uh, how come none of the One Piece theorists have pointed out that zoan fruits have three states... ...and we've only seen two states of the Nika fruit? Gear Fifth could still be his half form.
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It's probably more likely that Gear Fifth is his "full" form and the other gears are hybrids.
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i think: -gear 5 is “awakened,” like chopper after eating three rumble balls or impel down guards -gear 4 and its variants are “full” hito-hito -gear 2 is hybrid form -gear 3 was an early hint at the true nature of the fruit, since it doesnt make any sense at all unless the fruit’s real power is cartoon powers this is assuming its even analogous to other zoans at all, considering it has the unprecedented ability to affect not just the environment, but the very flesh of luffy’s opponents
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Scholtz posted:It's probably more likely that Gear Fifth is his "full" form and the other gears are hybrids. Gears 2 and 3 are just creatively using his rubber body with no physical traits of you know who, and gear 4 is brings armament haki into the mix.
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Yeah, Gear Fifth feels like the proper awakened form since it seems to give Luffy near infinite reserves of vitality as long as he can maintain it alongside the normally Paramecia thing of making other things rubber, with the other three feeling like Chopper’s Zoan transformations where they focus on a specific “thing”.
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Last Celebration posted:Yeah, Gear Fifth feels like the proper awakened form since it seems to give Luffy near infinite reserves of vitality as long as he can maintain it alongside the normally Paramecia thing of making other things rubber, with the other three feeling like Chopper’s Zoan transformations where they focus on a specific “thing”. its also the only thing we have a clear description of, since we got a scene of the elder stars explaining gomu gomu awakening at the same time luffy entered gear fifth, and kaidou called it out as a devil fruit awakening too. so i think that at least is set in stone, even if everything else is vague
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