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eke out posted:just skipping through the torture to see the next scene where lanfear smiles sinisterly
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CainFortea posted:Never mind, they don't need to kill hopper in this episode for the double gut punch. Thanks, that's what i needed to hear
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Sep 22, 2023 02:14
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What a loving episode, from Lanfear killing Liandrin's son, to literally all of Egwene's scenes, Mat having to abandon Rand AGAIN, Ryma, Maigan, jesus loving christ Rafe. I'm dead
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pik_d posted:What a loving episode, from Lanfear killing Liandrin's son, to literally all of Egwene's scenes, Mat having to abandon Rand AGAIN, Ryma, Maigan, jesus loving christ Rafe. I'm dead Ryma begging her warder to kill her. Ryma folding a loving sul'dam in half like origami.
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Sep 22, 2023 02:20
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Ryma should have learned Balefire instead of that folding trick. Could have saved her husband.
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Sep 22, 2023 02:21
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that was definitely a heavy episode. it was good, yeah, but i think it did things TOO well in a way and i def can't see myself going out of my way to rewatch it. it's really gonna gently caress up the show-only folks, though.
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Sep 22, 2023 02:24
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The books never did the horror of what being a damane means justice honestly. Egwene mentions the pitcher once in a flashback but it feels almost pedestrian compared to what the show just did with the same scene. And frankly the abject horror of being damane needs that.
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Johnny Joestar posted:that was definitely a heavy episode. it was good, yeah, but i think it did things TOO well in a way and i def can't see myself going out of my way to rewatch it. it's really gonna gently caress up the show-only folks, though. Yeah, I can normally get through some pretty dark stuff but I could have maybe done with one less of those scenes. Honestly could have used a check in on Perrin, otherwise I assume he will just be fast traveling to Falme off screen.
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I will rewatch for Lanfear 💯
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Natural 20 posted:The books never did the horror of what being a damane means justice honestly. Exactly. Drawing that scene out over the course of one (1) episode is exactly how to handle that on-screen, just like the arches. Cut away from it, keep coming back and showing more progress through it, make each of those scenes extremely present and visceral, make it the framework on which the rest of the story of the episode is being hung, but don't linger on any one scene longer than a couple of minutes. At the end it feels like it's taken you one day to live a lifetime
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Johnny Joestar posted:that was definitely a heavy episode. it was good, yeah, but i think it did things TOO well in a way and i def can't see myself going out of my way to rewatch it. it's really gonna gently caress up the show-only folks, though. Natural 20 posted:The books never did the horror of what being a damane means justice honestly. Rafe is a Darkfriend for putting us through that
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Sep 22, 2023 02:34
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Barreft posted:episode was eh Meh is right. Some awful acting being carried by a few standouts.
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Sep 22, 2023 02:35
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An Aes Sedai of the white tower did not invent the a'dam! Fake news!
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Treesinging was cool. Siuan’s head spikes owned. I feel like Alanna is gonna bond Rand sooner rather than later. She really called him Ishy  What is the significance of bringing 14 aes sedai to Cairhien? I thought it was 13 to do all the heavy duty stuff?Next week: Face it on your feet 
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The parts with Egwene, Lanfear and Ishamael I loved. The fight I couldn't get over the kind of goofy choreography of it all. None of it felt like it flowed well. It did not do anything to sell how dangerous damane actually are in battle and you get shots that just feel like everyone is standing around doing nothing. The stuff in Cairehian was just kind of boring. I hate everything they have done with Lan this season and hopefully it's over with soon. An episode with some high highs and some low lows.
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I think Egwene recounting the damane training worked better than actually seeing it. Renna being a real piece of poo poo helped but showing rather than telling didn't feel like it worked. I think the retelling of it worked because you get Egwene's rage and despair expressed by Egwene. When they're showing it its 30 minutes of a woman getting abused which is just miserable. I feel like the actor would have more to work with that than act like you're being tortured. Maybe they do more with Siuan next week but all I was thinking was move, get out of the way. There's this whole momentum and now we're going to the stuff from early book 2. gently caress off, shut up.
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Sep 22, 2023 02:57
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Lan has really just been a disappointment all around. The actor is great but all of his plots have been boring at best or annoying at worst. I just don't think they know what to do with him.
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After that episode I feel like if the show still ends up with Seanchan being the lesser evil they have to make peace with there may be riots
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CainsDescendant posted:Lan has really just been a disappointment all around. The actor is great but all of his plots have been boring at best or annoying at worst. I just don't think they know what to do with him. Moiraine's new scenes to keep her involved in the story have been fine to great, but yea a big miss with Lan imo, though after this season they shouldn't need to do it anymore. He's with Rand and co for a while after this, and then they can just immediately bond him with Nynaeve.
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Nihilarian posted:After that episode I feel like if the show still ends up with Seanchan being the lesser evil they have to make peace with there may be riots it'll definitely make mat's stuff with them a fair bit more interesting, that's for sure
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Hexel posted:Treesinging was cool. Siuan’s head spikes owned. I feel like Alanna is gonna bond Rand sooner rather than later. I think it's just "A Lot" the same way it is at the start of The Great Hunt- "We'd never bring this many sisters even for rulers" etc The fight in Falme is hard to say, because, like, you wanna just have the camera actually showing what's going on with the use of the power, but to do that it does end up feeling like there's not really any flow or back and forth. I was glad they went in deep on how horrific fighting with the power can be, since the horror elements can kinda get glossed over sometimes in text, outside of places like Dumai's wells or Rand's Seanchan assault with Callandor at the end of TPoD where it's very explicitly dwelled upon. Makes more sense why the oath against violence is a thing.
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Gwaihir posted:I think it's just "A Lot" the same way it is at the start of The Great Hunt- "We'd never bring this many sisters even for rulers" etc It's also two sisters from each ajah (I did not scour the scene to count I am just assuming) so I just thought it was a diplomatic or tower politics thing.
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Moiraine's jammies look comfortable AF. Wonder if those are standard Aes Sedai issue or hers from before.
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Yeah that was as rough as it needed to be
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Flowing Thot posted:Ryma should have learned Balefire instead of that folding trick. Could have saved her husband. Was nice to see that someone at least realized that if you know how to heal people, you know how to kill people real good too. And the bit with Loial, I see why they're doing it but I like the way they handled them in the books better.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:An Aes Sedai of the white tower did not invent the a'dam! Fake news! “The first a'dam was made by Deain Sedai”. That’s either a helluva last name coincidence, or it was an Aes Sedai who invented it.
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Lotta wiggle room on the oaths there. “Never use the Power as a weapon except to slowly turn someone into a human pretzel. In defense. Yeah.”
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Grundulum posted:“The first a'dam was made by Deain Sedai”. That’s either a helluva last name coincidence, or it was an Aes Sedai who invented it. I believe "canon" is that there were many channelers calling themselves "sedai" in Seanchan before the arrival of hawkwing's armies, but they were not sedai of the white tower.
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Dr. Clockwork posted:Lotta wiggle room on the oaths there. “Never use the Power as a weapon except to slowly turn someone into a human pretzel. In defense. Yeah.” I mean, she was using it in the last defense of her life. She was TRYING to get them to kill her, so she thought she'd die. Oaths don't say poo poo about not putting yourself into situations where your life is in danger.
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Sounds like this episode is a big oof. I think I'll be watching with an eye on my phone as distraction for the grim bits.
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Goofballs posted:I think Egwene recounting the damane training worked better than actually seeing it. Renna being a real piece of poo poo helped but showing rather than telling didn't feel like it worked. I think the retelling of it worked because you get Egwene's rage and despair expressed by Egwene. When they're showing it its 30 minutes of a woman getting abused which is just miserable. I feel like the actor would have more to work with that than act like you're being tortured. yeah, it was pointlessly exploitative imo – egwene had far less agency than in the equivalent book scenes. this was the worst ep of the season so far.
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Dr. Clockwork posted:Lotta wiggle room on the oaths there. “Never use the Power as a weapon except to slowly turn someone into a human pretzel. In defense. Yeah.” her direct life was threatened and she was operating on the assumption of imminent death, it's literally covered by that
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exmarx posted:yeah, it was pointlessly exploitative imo – egwene had far less agency than in the equivalent book scenes. this was the worst ep of the season so far. I disagree on pointless. Tonelessly recounting how awful things are works fine in a book, because your mind fills in the horror, but I can't imagine it working anywhere near as well on screen. I quite liked the episode, wasn't my favorite but it felt necessary. 
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silvergoose posted:I disagree on pointless. Tonelessly recounting how awful things are works fine in a book, because your mind fills in the horror, but I can't imagine it working anywhere near as well on screen. Yeah I've seen dozens of book readers this week saying they need to explain the a'dam. How awful it is, what it does, etc. I think they covered that well 
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This thread last week: They need to properly express the horror of the a'dam! This thread this week: No not like that!
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exmarx posted:yeah, it was pointlessly exploitative imo – egwene had far less agency than in the equivalent book scenes. this was the worst ep of the season so far. Also disagreeing with pointless - honestly the books gloss over the slavery parts of the seanchan far too often. The fact there's a truce between Rand and the empire, or the fact that Matt is involved with Tuon, etc, should be repulsive to the reader/watcher in a way I don't think the books did a good job bringing across.
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It was repulsive to me, I was wondering why so many people thought Tuon was cool?
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