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Bentai posted:https://twitter.com/ryogokulove/status/1705068653534933203 Seven-way playoff, and I don't think that there's anyone else that can join them (nor any 6-0s that can be spoiler). I think they draw lots to make three matches with one wrestler getting a bye, then draw lots again to make two matches with the four remaining, then a last head-to-head. It's gonna be a hell of a thing.
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Kenning posted:Unless I'm mistaken, this banzuke is the last appearance of Futahaguro before he was forced to retire as the first yokozuna who never won a tournament. As they go, this is a fairly historic document! Very cool. man i love how i never stop learning fascinating things about this sport. that a goon's mom had this is extremely cool.
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Just don’t ask why he was forced to retire without winning any tournaments...
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Apraxin posted:Just don’t ask why he was forced to retire without winning any tournaments... Yeah, dude not winning and embarrassing the old guys is probably the reason Takakeisho doesn't have a rope right now.
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oh lmao koji kitao. a miserable bastard in both real and fake wrestling. Man was so pissed about having to wrestle and take offensive moves from former Canadian makushita John Tenta (Kototenzan) that they for real fought in the ring and Kitano grabbed a mic in and told all Japanese fans that pro wrestling was fake bullshit.
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I was just looking back because I felt like I haven't seen a kinboshi in a while, and it's weird to realize that not only does this basho mark 2 years of Terunofuji being Yokozuna, but he has only put up one full basho in the last year.KungFu Grip posted:oh lmao koji kitao. a miserable bastard in both real and fake wrestling. Man was so pissed about having to wrestle and take offensive moves from former Canadian makushita John Tenta (Kototenzan) that they for real fought in the ring and Kitano grabbed a mic in and told all Japanese fans that pro wrestling was fake bullshit. He tried that poo poo on Haku as well, who took it as well as you'd imagine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90CybNh-XpA
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Archenteron posted:Tomorrow's going to be a hell of a show 100%. Potential for a very fun ending.
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Liquid Communism posted:100%. Potential for a very fun ending. i'm not going to say a loving thing for fear of a shiroc interpreting the post as a jinx.
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Tomorrow matchups are very weird: Kirishima vs Takayasu Daieisho vs Takakeisho Hokuseiho vs Hoshoryu Asanoyama vs Atamifuji They clearly were building up for a Kirishima vs Takakeisho final match but they don't want rikishi to go into the playoffs without having to face an Ozeki. It's going to be weird because all these matches will be meaningless if Atamifuji wins early in the day.
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Day 14: Ahahahaha Abi going for the henka again and getting his comeuppance was great. Impressive recovery by Atamifuji Shodai has been showing some uncharacteristic fire in the past couple of days. It's been a very welcome change. He can be incredibly strong when he's fired up. Wow, Ura going toe to toe with my main man Hokutofuji and just shoving him out was not what I expected
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Keisho's face was my face at the end of that bout, I thought he had him.
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That was a big win for Hoshoryu and I am very happy for him.
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Beeswax posted:Day 14: Takakeisho woke Shodai up with those slaps and he hasn't gone back to normal yet.
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Fedor's Hands Shogun's Knees Motivated BJ Sea Level Cain ... ... ... Warmed Up Shodai
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Fearless posted:That was a big win for Hoshoryu and I am very happy for him. Hokuseiho is getting a 7-7 Hoshoryu on the final day. I am not envious since Josh has clearly gotta be motivated to prove he can keep it going at Ozeki.
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Robviously posted:Hokuseiho is getting a 7-7 Hoshoryu on the final day. I am not envious since Josh has clearly gotta be motivated to prove he can keep it going at Ozeki. I think battling back from the miserable start he had this basho to avoid winding up kadoban after his first tournament as ozeki would be a hell of a thing, but particularly in consideration of the pressure he is probably under from his uncle and himself. Hosh looked crushed after the first week, and we have to look no further than Shodai to see what happens when an otherwise extremely strong and capable rikishi winds up in a bleak headspace. I felt bad about Takakeisho losing last night, because if he was able to pull off a yusho I think it would be the start of another yokozuna run but on the other hand I was really glad to see Hoshoryu win because I think it was very important to him. I dunno if Takakeisho will make Yokozuna before his body breaks down to the degree that it is no longer feasible but I do think that this tournament aside Hoshoryu has a bright future ahead of him and is going to make an excellent yokozuna someday in the nearish future. Also, holy poo poo are some people ever sour at Takakeisho for just existing. The Midnight stream has a couple of really, really vocal haters in it. Seeing Atamifuji recover from Abi's henka and win was a thing of beauty. Fearless fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Sep 23, 2023 |
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I don't get the Takakeisho hate. He might be a one trick pony, but it's still pretty amazing to see him at full strength. He will never be my favourite (nor will Daeisho) but I find a dominating Takakeisho satisfying to watch.
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Fearless posted:Also, holy poo poo are some people ever sour at Takakeisho for just existing. The Midnight stream has a couple of really, really vocal haters in it. Average Lettuce posted:I don't get the Takakeisho hate. He might be a one trick pony, but it's still pretty amazing to see him at full strength. He will never be my favourite (nor will Daeisho) but I find a dominating Takakeisho satisfying to watch.
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There are enough people that just want to be angry at someone for not playing a sport correctly that you just absolutely need to stop paying attention to it. Takakeisho at full force is cool and he won't be some other rikishi but that's okay. Sometimes it's just cool to see him do his one-trick pony routine and just go ham on someone.
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Liquid Communism posted:I was just looking back because I felt like I haven't seen a kinboshi in a while, and it's weird to realize that not only does this basho mark 2 years of Terunofuji being Yokozuna, but he has only put up one full basho in the last year. I’ll always wonder how well Haku could have done if he’d stayed with sumo, he was a freakish athlete for someone his size.
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If a rikishi is a one trick pony, you have every opportunity to counter it. One’s tone mad about it¨ edit: for the record, I have no idea what the second sentence here was supposed to be Beeswax fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Sep 24, 2023 |
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Robviously posted:There are enough people that just want to be angry at someone for not playing a sport correctly But Abi is right there...
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Beeswax posted:If a rikishi is a one trick pony, you have every opportunity to counter it. One’s tone mad about it This is why I don't understand the hate for Abi. He doesn't do anything illegal, doesn't intentionally try to injure people, and he always does the same thing every time so everyone should be prepared for it I like watching him lose too but I also don't hate on him. He's a one trick pony and that one trick got him to makuuchi so people need to just deal with it
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Yeah, Keisho is a one trick pony, but he's also ridiculously consistent (if he isn't injured).
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Anyone who thinks Takakeisho is a one trick pony is out of touch with reality. He’s clearly more of a one trick hippo.
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Elephant Ambush posted:This is why I don't understand the hate for Abi. He doesn't do anything illegal, doesn't intentionally try to injure people, and he always does the same thing every time so everyone should be prepared for it I'm not a fan of his style of sumo but 4 henka attempts is excessive and I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't told to tone it down.
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I... didn't know that was a thing. Thank you!
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I have been so busy the past week I've barely been able to keep up with the basho but holy poo poo the final day has a bunch of potentially awesome stuff going on. As exciting as a massive playoff would be, I really want Atamifuji to take it outright and Hoshoryu to get his 8th win. 
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Kuros posted:I'm not a fan of his style of sumo but 4 henka attempts is excessive and I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't told to tone it down. I think the fact he ate poo poo on half those attempts is what's keeping him from getting an earful. If he finishes today with another attempt and wins, I'm sure there will be some pointed remarks by the old geezers. The selective hate for tsuppari guys is weird though when there's nary a complaint about Daieisho's style and he's right up there in sanyaku.
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Well, slaps are a perfectly valid part of sumo... I mean that's what a teppo pole is for in no small part, and any sumotori is free to employ them if they so wish. And as has been said before in this thread, if you know what someone who over-relies on a particular technique is going to do and you don't prepare an effective answer for it you don't really get to complain about it afterwards. ...Which is what I have to remind myself when Abi beats a rikishi I am supporting by gouging their throat and hopping around like a frog on a skillet.
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Taffy Torpedo posted:Keisho's face was my face at the end of that bout, I thought he had him. 
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Fearless posted:...Which is what I have to remind myself when Abi beats a rikishi I am supporting by gouging their throat and hopping around like a frog on a skillet. turns out yes, yes he did... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiMsFglK_5c ...but he also had other techniques to fall back on when the neck thrusts didn't work and there's some real great bouts in there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbi-IszavpU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oySVOMAOq9g
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Good thing Akebono was in his prime decades ago. The online nerd rage would probably have gone nuclear if he had been Yokozuna in this time period.
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Beeswax posted:If a rikishi is a one trick pony, you have every opportunity to counter it. One’s tone mad about it¨ If you're a one-trick pony who's comfortably sitting at Ozeki, it must be a drat good trick.
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Special prizes are out. Atamifuji has the fighting spirit prize unconditionally. Daieisho, Takayasu, Hokuseiho, and Atamifuji all have conditional outstanding performance prizes and will get them with a win.
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Re: Takakeisho and Abi - they do the one weird trick that their bodies are perfectly designed for. Takakeisho is short of stature and of arm so he put on a ton of weight and has perfected his timing on guys trying to close distance on him. Unlike most tsuppari guys he prefers to push with both hands at once (compared to a rangier tsuppari guy like, say, Aoiyama, who maximizes his reach by alternating thrusts). Because of his short arms, Takakeisho's thrusts are at their strongest at an awkward distance that is inside of most guys' thrust range, but just outside of range of guys going for his belt. Combined with his low centre of gravity and good power and he is doing the best sumo available to him. Like, Midorifuji's katasukashi gambits work well because he is short and can switch to that tactic without changing his stance too obviously, Abi's height and long limbs permit him to do his weird footwork without being too vulnerable, Hokuseiho's giant body allows him to approach belt work in a way that cannot be emulated by people who don't have that attribute etc. etc. The glory of an openweight combat sport is that everybody has to maximize what their specific body is capable of and use what is different or unique about it to their advantage. And if you've got an unusual physical attribute, your sumo will probably be most effective if it is built around that.
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