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McSpankWich posted:Finished The Hero of Ages. This one was much better than the 2nd book, I think. The ending was solid. I am kind of disappointed that there's no continuation of the series to hear what happens immediately after the events with the world and characters. Does Secret History address this or is it just a retelling of the history which already happened with added bits? You're at the right place here! Just be mindful that we often enough have new readers in this thread sharing their reactions, so be be ready to see and use a lot of spoiler bars. As for your question, there's a second series of Mistborn books set about 300 years after the end of Hero of Ages. So you will hear some bits about the fate of various OG characters, but it's not the direct continuation that you hoped for. The series is still quite good, and allomancers with revolvers are a surprisingly fun concept. For various spoiler reasons, if you're at all interested in reading Mistborn Era 2, you should not read Secret History before finishing Bands of Mourning. If you're really curious, I will be a bit more specific. It is more like a retelling of the history, but it does so much more than just add some more bits. In either case, it doesn't contain any story set after then end of Hero of Ages, so it's not what you're looking for, either. If you're a Mistborn fan, I can only recommend Era 2. It's not as high stakes/"epic" as the Era 1 books, but still very recognizably Mistborn, and quite fun to read.
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Jorenko posted:There is a sequel series of 4 books set a few hundred years after HoA. Secret History was released after the third of those and concerns some things that were revealed in that book, although it is largely what you speculate. The first book is The Alloy of Law. You should absolutely read them, they are rad. Just note that they’re more of a steampunk vibe than the pure fantasy of the first trilogy. Which owns, just a FYI.
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Sep 28, 2023 13:45
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rafikki posted:Just note that they’re more of a steampunk vibe than the pure fantasy of the first trilogy. Which owns, just a FYI. More like a western with industrialisation happening along side imo. I won’t let you get away with calling mistborn 2 a steampunk.
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Sep 28, 2023 13:58
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big mean giraffe posted:BoM is the best 2nd era book and it's not even close I’d rank it third. It was fine. But I have some major issues with it.
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Sep 28, 2023 15:21
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Mordiceius posted:I’d rank it third. It was fine. But I have some major issues with it. Yeah about 6 too many fakeouts, like right in a row at the end there
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Sep 28, 2023 15:51
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Half of Dracula posted:Finished era 2 myself recently and loved it but ironically wanted another thousand pages on random setting details and day to day the way you get in early stormlight... agreed. World building is my favorite part about fantasy. Hence why I read fantasy
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Sep 28, 2023 15:53
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Torrannor posted:Most of us are probably "damaged" by liking Wheel of Time and pages long descriptions of dresses and environments and braid tugging yeah also this. Don't let your 10 year old start reading wheel of time books because you figure the bigger the book the less money you have to spend on your kid! It will ruin their taste in books
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Sep 28, 2023 15:54
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Shallan is a manic pixie dream girl.
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Mordiceius posted:Shallan is a manic pixie dream girl. I uh no, not even by the stretchiest of definitions.
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Sep 28, 2023 16:41
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socialsecurity posted:I uh no, not even by the stretchiest of definitions. Maybe he meant ......Syl....... (WoK general, seriously spoiler tag names when describing people jeez)
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Sep 28, 2023 16:44
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Mordiceius posted:Shallan is a manic pixie dream girl.
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CapnAndy posted:All right, c'mon outside and let's get this fistfight over with hey now, to be fair, [all stormlight spoilers, kinda] it's certainly possible that the persona of "shallan" is in some sense a dream girl
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Sep 28, 2023 17:27
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girl, is that an (Shallan spoilers) extra personality in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
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Sep 28, 2023 17:29
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Mordiceius posted:I’d rank it third. It was fine. But I have some major issues with it. For me it wins because it's the first book Wayne is tolerable in, and Steris really comes into her own
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Sep 28, 2023 17:56
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Just want some interlude chapters with the star Lurcher on a Noseball team sucking down Vif tonic being blackmailed to throw the game or an absent minded Soother in a parlor who isn't listening to an obvious worldhopper. How about a bendalloy Ferring who's a food critic for the papers
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socialsecurity posted:I uh no, not even by the stretchiest of definitions. I mean, I'm only barely half way through WoK so I'm sure it changes with her. I know that Shallan eventually has multiple personality disorder or something of the sort. I learned this a long long time ago from a friend of mine who had been pushing me to read the series for a while. But currently - she's bubbly and quirky and weird and has a unique talent and looks different from many others (red hair) and she's quippy and clever and sarcastic. Progress through WoK continues to be slow. I've found that I'll often listen to the audiobook a little bit every day for a few days and then often just put it down for a few days or a week. The problem with this slow pacing and focusing so much on world building instead of giving us any sort of compelling actions or narrative is that I don't feel pulled to keeping pace. I'm not left in suspense. There is no "Oh poo poo! I gotta know what happens next!!" because the answer is probably somewhere between "nothing really" and "more world building and people just standing around and talking." I'm not having a bad time. I'm just having a time. 
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Mordiceius posted:I mean, I'm only barely half way through WoK so I'm sure it changes with her. I know that Shallan eventually has multiple personality disorder or something of the sort. I learned this a long long time ago from a friend of mine who had been pushing me to read the series for a while.
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Leeloo and The Fifth Element are both amazing. All I gotta say since people are digging on MPDGs.
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Mordiceius posted:I mean, I'm only barely half way through WoK so I'm sure it changes with her. I know that Shallan eventually has multiple personality disorder or something of the sort. I learned this a long long time ago from a friend of mine who had been pushing me to read the series for a while. I'll be honest, I think part of the issue is how long this book is taking you. I know you've been sick, it's not really your fault, but I just think it's putting a damper on your progress and excitement.
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pik_d posted:I'll be honest, I think part of the issue is how long this book is taking you. I know you've been sick, it's not really your fault, but I just think it's putting a damper on your progress and excitement. That's absolutely fair. It's also that I have probably an hour or so max I can realistically dedicate to a book with my current schedule. Maybe it would go faster if I had the physical book in my hands, but this audio book is 45 hours long. I've crested the half way point and I feel like stuff is just about to start happening. The "side carry" happened and Kaladin is just about to be hit by the high storm. But this book is just long. At this much time spent, you're in the final moments of The Final Empire. I've heard it repeated that "Sanderson writes each Stormlight Archive book as if it is a trilogy within a single book" and I don't know if that just means in length or in story structure but, for WoK at least, I feel like it can't possibly be the latter.
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Half of Dracula posted:Finished era 2 myself recently and loved it but ironically wanted another thousand pages on random setting details and day to day the way you get in early stormlight... Absolutely this. I had a lot of fun with era 2 but the setting feels really hollow because it's only elaborated on at really plot critical points, or with random throwaways meant to put your mind on turn-of-the-century aesthetics. By contrast Roshar feels like a full, complex, and living world and I can picture in my head what life looks like for all sorts of people there, just based on what the book fills us in on. It doesn't need a crutch of being heavily based on recent real-world history and technology. It's got it's own biology in plant and animal life, its own weather, it's own geology and politics and religions and races and languages and cities and all those things are fully realized and well explored. And that's why The Way of Kings is a loving awesome book and the best intro to the series possible. 
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I feel similarly too about the first Wheel of Time book which is a lot of peoples least favorite book, because it's more like lord of the rings. But I think that first book really helps ground the rest of the series despite the other books being so different. It put things into the right perspective somehow, it's always partly in my mind affecting how I see the rest of the books.
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Im rereading all the slow bits in WoR and I can't be stopped
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Half of Dracula posted:Im rereading all the slow bits in WoR and I can't be stopped What would you say are the slow bits? A general question to others, too. Is there anything you skip in re reads?
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NikkolasKing posted:What would you say are the slow bits? Kaladin flashbacks.
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NikkolasKing posted:What would you say are the slow bits? I don't make those distinctions too much myself but I suppose anything that's more characters researching/slowly discovering things that are later common knowledge, or chapters traveling towards their later positions without something notable happening. That's where the neat character moments and secret foreshadowing is though...
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socialsecurity posted:Kaladin flashbacks. Honestly, the only flashbacks I've liked were Dalinar's.
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AlternateNu posted:Honestly, the only flashbacks I've liked were Dalinar's. A lot of the flashbacks in Way of Kings start feeling like LOST season three flashbacks.
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The only flashbacks I didn’t like were RoW’s.
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I'm meandering my way through Words of Radiance audiobook again. It's fun seeing some foreshadowing, but since I'm going slowlyI have an impatient very-spoilery question for something I forgot: If you have not finished WOR, do not read! Can anyone refresh my memory on what the deal is with the glowing box? I remember Shallan's whole deal with killing her mom with a shardblade and then later her father, but what's the deal with the glowing box that she sees after? She mentions something about a soul, but I just don't recall and don't want to wait a bunch of hours to remember this small bit since I already know the big reveal. Thanks!
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road potato posted:I'm meandering my way through Words of Radiance audiobook again. It's fun seeing some foreshadowing, but since I'm going slowlyI have an impatient very-spoilery question for something I forgot: all stormlight spoilers [seriously!] she drops Testament after killing her mom and her dad puts it in the box, then she breaks her bond and it's a dead blade and she represses the memory and just remembers the box or whatever eke out fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Sep 30, 2023 |
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road potato posted:I'm meandering my way through Words of Radiance audiobook again. It's fun seeing some foreshadowing, but since I'm going slowlyI have an impatient very-spoilery question for something I forgot: As someone who just finished WoR, Pattern, in Shardblade form, was put in the box. Not that Pattern could really be contained there. I still don't understand why the box was glowing. I am curious if the glowing part is explained later and is really a spoiler for books I haven't read. Typing this up made me wonder (no one confirm this please) if the glowing had to do with Shallan's Memory realm piercing powers, which are almost certainly an extension of her specific Radiant-ness. Edit: Well now I just want to click on eke out's spoiler harder. pik_d fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Sep 30, 2023 |
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eke out's spoiler comes from info we got in the latter half of Rhythm of War, so... don't klick it if you haven't finished that book!
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Still all stormlight/cosmere spoilers i have been assuming there is a Seon in there
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eke out posted:all stormlight spoilers [seriously!] she drops Testament after killing her mom and her dad puts it in the box, then she breaks her bond and it's a dead blade and she represses the memory and just remembers the box or whatever Honestly her dad locking it up doesn't make much sense, since even dead blades poof away to mist, but maybe since it didn't have a gemstone he assumed it was unbonded and Shallan just got her hands on it somehow?
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Or it may just be that he was freaking out about his wife trying to murder his daughter and his daughter pulling out a shard blade from somewhere to kill her own mother with, and just kind of threw it in there without thinking about it that much
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[all stormlight] it's tough because we're still missing too many pieces about what actually happened. i fully expect stormlight 5 to conclude the "what the gently caress is going on with shallan's past" plotline (and, at this point, i feel like the evidence that there's some Herald poo poo going on is pretty good). probably when we get some of those pieces, things'll make more sense i was listening to that stormlight podcast linked here and they're on Oathbringer and covered a chapter i'd forgotten early on where Pattern's like "look, it's okay, just kill me, it's not a big deal, the Cryptics'll send you another spren anyways" and it did set those alarm bells off. something beyond just a natural talent for lying and self-deception makes her incredibly important to them that we still don't know about, to the point that Pattern seems to honestly believe she could kill another of them and they'd still keep sacrificing more cryptics (and would be clearly resolved if her mom is Chana) eke out fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Sep 30, 2023 |
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Besides Shallan stuff, I really just wanna know (Stormlight spoilers) how Honor died. Nobody ever asks Odium or whoever how it all went down. This massive fact about Honor being dead is just dropped and he was apparently insane by the end and no details about any of it are ever given.
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NikkolasKing posted:Besides Shallan stuff, I really just wanna know (Stormlight spoilers) how Honor died. Nobody ever asks Odium or whoever how it all went down. This massive fact about Honor being dead is just dropped and he was apparently insane by the end and no details about any of it are ever given. My guess is the creation of the Unmade was involved, as my theory is they're big chunks of Honor that were 'corrupted' to Odiums investiture like how we saw an attempt to Unmake the Sibling big mean giraffe fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Sep 30, 2023 |
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big mean giraffe posted:My guess is the creation of the Unmade was involved, as my theory is they're big chunks of Honor that were 'corrupted' to Odiums investiture like how we saw an attempt to Unmake the Sibling we've heard a lot about how Shards are uniquely vulnerable if they break agreements and how Honor isn't the shard of being good but the shard of Making Contracts -- my gut feeling is he broke his word in some way that weakened himself for a strike
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