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enterprise season 4 opener is pretty loving bad, absolutely atrocious pace and writing and the live action fighting sequences extra bad, like they just had props and costumes left over from the time voyager was also doing a nazis in space two parter which looked like they were leftovers from a tos nazis in space/gangster planet set I know the rest of 4 is meant to be better, but goddamn what a loving stupid start
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Wasn’t the Season 4 opener Manny Coto doing his best to deal with the ‘gently caress you here’s alien Nazis’ cliffhanger Berman/Braga left for him?
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Sep 29, 2023 18:48
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People say Season 4 is far and away the best but I didn't find it to be any better or worse than any other.
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Sep 29, 2023 18:49
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zoux posted:People say Season 4 is far and away the best but I didn't find it to be any better or worse than any other. It is better in that its has mini-arcs that are more consistant but it is still bland tv. Zaroff posted:Wasn’t the Season 4 opener Manny Coto doing his best to deal with the ‘gently caress you here’s alien Nazis’ cliffhanger Berman/Braga left for him? Yep, they gifted him a poo poo sandwich and he tossed it as soon as he could.
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Sep 29, 2023 18:51
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Zaroff posted:Wasn’t the Season 4 opener Manny Coto doing his best to deal with the ‘gently caress you here’s alien Nazis’ cliffhanger Berman/Braga left for him?
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Sep 29, 2023 18:58
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Also season 4 had the absolute worst series finale
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Sep 29, 2023 19:12
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Wow this Duet episode was very good. Love the little bit of foreshadowing with Dukat going "If this patient says his name is Marritza, then that's who he is." near the start.
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Sep 29, 2023 19:41
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Yeah that episode is one of the best of DS9 and is the official start of when the show gets consistently good
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Sep 29, 2023 19:42
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Feldegast42 posted:Also season 4 had the absolute worst series finale But Terra Prime was great?
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Sep 29, 2023 19:50
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At the rate LDS is going this season I can't help but feel like they'll be retconning These Are the Voyages out of existence any minute now and I'm looking forward to it.
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Sep 29, 2023 20:57
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Fighting Trousers posted:At the rate LDS is going this season I can't help but feel like they'll be retconning These Are the Voyages out of existence any minute now and I'm looking forward to it. They sort of did already lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPCGkHjsK9M&t=34s
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Sep 29, 2023 21:05
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These Are the Voyages is the most appropriate finale Enterprise could have had. "Here, watch characters people actually care about for 45 minutes while they pretend this half-story is the most meaningful thing the Enterprise crew did, which really reinforces how irrelevant this show truly was, and now it's over and you never have to think about it again." It's legitimately perfect.
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Sep 29, 2023 21:08
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Birthright parts I + II: The novelty of the DS9 crossover, a mildly interesting Data b-plot and a reasonably satisfying ending doesn't make up for this being a bit drab and ponderous. Disjointed too. In part 1, Data levels up and learns the Dream ability. In part 2, Worf does Klingon Tai Chi (sorry, the MUCK BARRY) and plays "throw the stick through the hoop" to win da hearts of da kidz and man, it never quite gets as exciting as that one shot early on where he walks past Morn, aka the greatest, most important and cool Star Trek character ever. I've barely seen any of DS9, I know Morn and his lovely little face that I want to put between my hands and squish. Fascinating finding out Alexander Siddig's real name in the credits, then looking it up and finding out his REAL real name.
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Sep 30, 2023 00:49
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Fun fact: Morn is one of only four characters to appear in all three of TNG, DS9, and VOY. The others are Q, Quark, and Gul Evek.
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Sep 30, 2023 01:38
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Birthright is a really boring two parter where we get to see Worf getting ready to bang a teenager and then instantly dropping her when he sees she’s got sharp ears
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Sep 30, 2023 06:31
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MuddyFunster posted:Fascinating finding out Alexander Siddig's real name in the credits, then looking it up and finding out his REAL real name. He changes from Siddig El Fadil in the credits of DS9 to Alexander Siddig in series 4. I remember as a kid being like ??? but then you look him up and he did it to sound less "foreign". Which is kinda poo poo
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Taear posted:He changes from Siddig El Fadil in the credits of DS9 to Alexander Siddig in series 4. I remember as a kid being like ??? but then you look him up and he did it to sound less "foreign". Which is kinda poo poo Yeah, common thing throughout the entire history of Hollywood -and before that with writers and performing arts, and just in general- unfortunately. Things seem to be getting a bit better now days in that respect at least!
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Also I watched "For The Uniform" again last night and god the holo communicator is so weird, it's like an episode from a parallel universe of star trek. I get the idea and why they wanted to do it but it makes the episode feel really different. I do like that Sisko says "no they're not refugees, you've MADE them refugees, they had places to go and settle". I hate the fuckin' Marquis
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Birthright is a really boring two parter where we get to see Worf getting ready to bang a teenager and then instantly dropping her when he sees she’s got sharp ears I really wish DS9 had done something with Worf dealing with Romulans when they were allies in the Dominion War. His prejudice against them is such a recurring theme in TNG, it would have been really nice to see him overcome it.
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Sep 30, 2023 08:42
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The really big 'what if' I'd have loved DS9 to have done is to keep the Romulan officer who was supposed to be in charge of the Defiant's cloaking device as a recurring character. She was even played by Martha Hackett, who we know is a totally capable character actor for Trek, seeing as she was in a billion Voyager episodes.
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Sep 30, 2023 16:01
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Apparently there was a DVD copy of Star Trek: Borg released only in Japan and someone has gotten ahold of that and ripped it and upscaled and retuned all the footage and made it playable online? https://borgremastered.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jBYkjBF8Zw Haven't played it yet but the quality improvement looks impressive. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Sep 30, 2023 |
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MikeJF posted:Apparently there was a DVD copy of Star Trek: Borg released only in Japan and someone has gotten ahold of that and ripped it and upscaled and retuned all the footage and made it playable online? https://borgremastered.com/ All I can think about is how much the C&D order is going to hurt with this one  Did the Roddenberry Archive ever come back or are those cool walkable bridges just lost to time?
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Sep 30, 2023 19:48
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Is the upscaled footage from that available online as a video anywhere? Youtube?
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Sir Lemming posted:It is a great scene but it's not in that video. This is it: Oh right, thank you. I had both in my history and guessed wrong. Lord Hydronium posted:Fun fact: Morn is one of only four characters to appear in all three of TNG, DS9, and VOY. The others are Q, Quark, and Gul Evek. Quark and Morn were in Lower Decks too!
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mllaneza posted:Oh right, thank you. I had both in my history and guessed wrong. As was Q. What this tells me is that we need a Gul Evek cameo in LD. A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Sep 30, 2023 |
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Starship Mine: I suppose this is the first glimmer of Action Picard. The two fisted, punch-the-baddie, laser blasting pale imitation who'd appear in the movies from First Contact and beyond. It's somehow an even worse Die Hard knock off than the second half of Rascals and I have no loving clue how you manage that. A good Die Hard needs a quality villain, but here we have a sharp faced, charisma vacuum schoolmarm and her merry band of random forehead appliances (plus Tuvok). Their big plan is crap, Picard mincemeats them like Rambo. Except of course, we can't go that violent so it's all a bit feeble and gutless. We don't even get a good death for schoolmarm, just a rubbish distant explosion. And poor Commander Hutchinson, a very nice, pleasant man, belittled by all and mentioned by nobody after he dies! Makes the crew look like a real bunch of assholes. Bollocks. Lessons: A change of pace and another very staid romance, this time Picard is getting some music practice (SEXING) in. The music-as-lovemaking metaphor is quaintly cheesy and it does start off dull as ditchwater, but I got drawn in by the end, even if it was all utterly predictable. There wasn't a chance in hell they would be still be an item once the end credits hit, but Wendy Hughes was kind of a sweet match for Stewart. I'd probably have liked it a lot less if they'd killed her off, so the final few scenes were nice. Often try not to give in to cynicism. Sure, middle aged romance isn't the most thrilling thing in the world, but it fits Picard a drat sight better than him running about with a crossbow. And if nothing else, it gave us this, which I now have full context for. It's not my favourite, the backfiring Knight Rider one is best. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DChJ2FtCP5U
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That matte painting for the Jefferey's tube there is so obvious lol, never should have filmed that close.
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The character PStew really wanted to play all this time was Spider Jerusalem, a two-fisted journalist whose sidearm of choice made his enemies poo poo their intestines out.
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I do like that scene, though. Call me a softy (my insides really are marshmallow fluff), but the Ressikan melody was so personal for Picard. It's such a nice character arc for him that he goes from being gruff in the first season to being willing to share this meaningful piece of his (kinda) history.
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Starship Mine: Picard fightin' Lessons: Picard fuckin' But in all seriousness, I think Lessons is one of the best written romances TNG ever did, and the callback to Inner Light was incorporated very nicely.
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Starship Mine is a great episode, come at me haters
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Truckin', fuckin' and Jean-Luckin'. e: Count me as a Starship Mine fan also.
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It teaches us all a valuable lesson that everyone can have they own starship if you want it badly enough. And have some space guns and goons I guess. But yeah very aspirational.
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DaveWoo posted:But in all seriousness, I think Lessons is one of the best written romances TNG ever did, and the callback to Inner Light was incorporated very nicely. Yes indeed. I think it's one of those ones like The Survivors where it takes a long time to really get going, but when it does, it'll drop you. And it manages to do that without any grand hysterics, everything is perfectly underplayed. God, The Survivors, that really did me in. "What is the deal with these old people, I don't care, this is dull, I'm so bored, I. I. Oh, no. Oh, no." 
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FlamingLiberal posted:Starship Mine is a great episode, come at me haters F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Truckin', fuckin' and Jean-Luckin'. Yeah it's good.
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Captive Pursuit is such a good episode. Tosk really does come across as an alien and not just a guy in a lizard suit.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I do like that scene, though. Call me a softy (my insides really are marshmallow fluff), but the Ressikan melody was so personal for Picard. It's such a nice character arc for him that he goes from being gruff in the first season to being willing to share this meaningful piece of his (kinda) history. I skipped Lessons a few times on TNG rewatches and was surprised by how much I liked it when I finally checked it out. Stewart does such a good job of having Picard finally let someone into his life, then just really sadly pulling the door shut on himself again at the end.
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Technowolf posted:Captive Pursuit is such a good episode. Tosk really does come across as an alien and not just a guy in a lizard suit. I really like how O'Brien is with Tosk. Although I think the Hunters come across as too powerful and it feels weird that they'd just be another race in the Dominion. It does make me appreciate that (other than the Federation) the Dominion is an "empire" of more than just one people though. I know it's come up before but show us some Klingon/Cardassian/Romulan subject peoples that aren't the Bajorans. Is the occupation uniquely horrendous? Feels like it is, but surely there's other species living in these empires?
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