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davidspackage posted:Just Ha! Hoo! Ha! on both ends, cacophany 
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Paradoxish posted:For me it's because DS9's usage of the holodeck feels relatively unpretentious. It's video games and sex and it doesn't pretend to be anything else. VOY and TNG both went out of their way to make holodeck past times feel like some weird combination of sophisticated, quirky, and just downright bizarre and it never really worked for me. There's no way DS9 gets to put its nose up about holodeck/holosuite stuff when it spent so much time with Vic Fontaine. oh god i can already hear the clattering of keyboards from people rushing to defend a vegas crooner's honor
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Oct 9, 2023 16:45
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I imagine Janeway is just watching everyones holodeck recordings for fun and the crew has learned not to get too explicit with their fantasy AI video game
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Oct 9, 2023 16:53
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I feel like DS9 got away very well with telling instead of showing about the holosuites. Like, you hear about Chief's kayaking or Dax and Kira doing Arthurian adventures, and meanwhile they show you one misty cave for Klingon fights and Chief and Julian playing spacesquash in a room full of pluses.
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Oct 9, 2023 17:02
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Julian and O'Brien playing Warhammer 1836 got a pretty good laugh from me
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Oct 9, 2023 17:10
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The good holodeck thing DS9 does is avoid artificially upping the stakes by removing safety protocols every single time there's a holodeck episode. The bad holodeck thing DS9 does is indeed Vic Fontaine
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Oct 9, 2023 17:43
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I liked Vic Ok, maybe he was a little overused in the end, but I still liked him Feldegast42 fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Oct 9, 2023 |
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Oct 9, 2023 17:46
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Vic, much like Garak, made such a strong impression that it feels like he’s in way more episodes than he’s actually is.
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Oct 9, 2023 18:38
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The smoky bar wartime singer gig contrasts well with the war going on outside. Imho the main problem with the 10 episode wrap up is that way, way too much time is taken up with Ezri sorting through her feelings for Worf and the whole Pah-Wraith stuff that didn't really go anywhere. Did we really need like 3 episodes of Winn and Dukat loving around? I feel like Bajor and its religion needed to be given closure, but man did they drop the ball on that and the anime DBZ fight on the promenade is one of the worst things in DS9 Also I liked Ezri regardless, her actress had big shoes to fill and she did her best with what she got. Feldegast42 fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Oct 9, 2023 |
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Oct 9, 2023 19:48
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The DBZ beam struggle is a season 6 episode! (But yeah that is totally where the pah-wrath storyline got out of control)
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Oct 9, 2023 19:54
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his pagh level is OVER 9000
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Oct 9, 2023 19:58
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Oct 9, 2023 20:06
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Gul Dukat even revealed his TRUE FORM in the final fight! (Which was the form we are all familiar with already but still) Someone should pay Marc Alaimo to do the Goku SS3 speech in character
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Oct 9, 2023 20:09
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Berman should not have fired Terry Farrell, instead he should've reflected on his many sins against the franchise and become an anchorite at a monetary for the rest of his life. IMHO.
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Oct 9, 2023 20:09
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Kibayasu posted:Vic, much like Garak, made such a strong impression that it feels like he’s in way more episodes than he’s actually is. Every time he comes up in this thread I think they're talking about one of the guys from Bioshock. IIRC that guy wasn't even real, just elaborate kayfabe puppeted by some other sinister 20s sounding name guy. Vic Fontaine and Moopsy are both star Trek things I must have had seen, and that I must believe exist, but my mind is suspiciously devoid of personal recollection of either character in show.
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Oct 9, 2023 20:12
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zoux posted:Berman should not have fired Terry Farrell, instead he should've reflected on his many sins against the franchise and become an anchorite at a monetary for the rest of his life. IMHO. Booting the women who have significant roles in the show for wanting to have a career after the show ends is a 90-scifi hallmark.
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Oct 9, 2023 20:15
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Controversial opinion: Jadzia was only good as a love interest for Worf, so she should
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Oct 9, 2023 20:18
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Farrell Dax had definite range problems, but anytime she was meant to be sarcastic or Klingon she was good. It was bad when she got the standard new boyfriend plot all the female cast members get at some point. Or had to do any dramatic heavy lifting. But as the breezy, gently caress it, old-man-in-a-young-body, she was great.
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Oct 9, 2023 20:28
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I've seen 12 year olds at middle school football games give more enthralling pep talks than Dax's wartime mess hall speech.
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Oct 9, 2023 22:13
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zoux posted:Farrell Dax had definite range problems, but anytime she was meant to be sarcastic or Klingon she was good. It was bad when she got the standard new boyfriend plot all the female cast members get at some point. Or had to do any dramatic heavy lifting. But as the breezy, gently caress it, old-man-in-a-young-body, she was great. She was great in Rejoined. I think she could have done good work if she stopped getting her own scripts in S4 whcih didn't revolve around Worf
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Oct 9, 2023 22:20
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God I wasn't even trying to speak against Vic Fontaine I just think it's ridiculous to put your nose up at Picard playing Dixon Hill, or the Voyager crew running Fair Haven, as being weird/quaint/twee when the DS9 crew couldn't get enough of a 50s Vegas casino.
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Oct 9, 2023 22:28
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I think it is hilarious that Bashir and O'Brien, with the full knowledge of everything Santa Ana could possibly do and centuries more military science and Bashir being a genetic superman still couldn't figure out how to win at the Alamo
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Oct 9, 2023 22:35
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Khanstant posted:Moopsy are both star Trek things I must have had seen, and that I must believe exist, but my mind is suspiciously devoid of personal recollection of either character in show. 
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Oct 9, 2023 22:36
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They really didn't need to create a new character just to have Wolf get a girlfriend. Winn was right there the whole time, their names start with the same letter and everything!
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Oct 9, 2023 23:39
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dr_rat posted:They really didn't need to create a new character just to have Wolf get a girlfriend. Worf is too big a loser to score a Winn
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:God I wasn't even trying to speak against Vic Fontaine I just think it's ridiculous to put your nose up at Picard playing Dixon Hill, or the Voyager crew running Fair Haven, as being weird/quaint/twee when the DS9 crew couldn't get enough of a 50s Vegas casino. Dixon Hill is great because Picard is so serious and likes serious guy stuff like literature and archaeology but he plays a sleazy pulp detective rpg for fun.
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Oct 10, 2023 01:06
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You know, it feels a bit like they forgot about Changelings once the Martok stuff is out of the way. I wish we'd got a few more lines about security having been perfected or something so that random ships don't suddenly self destruct because changelings replaced their captain/first officer
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Oct 10, 2023 01:47
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cenotaph posted:Dixon Hill is great because Picard is so serious and likes serious guy stuff like literature and archaeology but he plays a sleazy pulp detective rpg for fun. Come on, you know it's more like a Visual Novel. In all the wrong ways.
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Oct 10, 2023 01:48
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Come on, you know it's more like a Visual Novel. In all the wrong ways. This is proved when Lwaxana visits the holodeck while one of the Dixon Hill programs is running.
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They should have made Grilka a major guest character and had her end up with Worf
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Oct 10, 2023 11:40
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Tonight I'm watching Tholian Web.
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FlamingLiberal posted:They should have made Grilka a major guest character and had her end up with Worf Her and Quark were so good together though, it should absolutely be those two No Dignity fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Oct 10, 2023 |
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Oct 10, 2023 13:59
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House of Quark, but it's a sitcom with a love triangle between Grilka, Worf and Quark
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Oct 10, 2023 14:03
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Sash! posted:I think it is hilarious that Bashir and O'Brien, with the full knowledge of everything Santa Ana could possibly do and centuries more military science and Bashir being a genetic superman still couldn't figure out how to win at the Alamo
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Oct 10, 2023 14:10
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FlamingLiberal posted:They should have made Grilka a major guest character and had her end up with Worf Why would you wish this dishonor upon Grillka
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Oct 10, 2023 14:44
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They should have invited Martok to the Alamo.
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Oct 10, 2023 14:45
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Tholian Web was pretty good. Now I'm watching Plato's Stepchildren.
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FlamingLiberal posted:They should have made Grilka a major guest character and had her end up with Worf she was way, waaaay too cool for worf I mean all his partners were
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What a loser Worf is, pulling at least four hot women and twice deciding the fate of star-empires in melee combat
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lol the loser couldn't even decided the fate of a good empire in melee combat.
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