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Electric Phantasm posted:I was thinking Blackbeard->Imu, but with these recent chapters I'm now thinking WG/Imu where everything gets exposed and then the race to One Piece with Blackbeard kinda like how Steel Ball Run went down. Taking the fight to the WG after claiming the One Piece and learning the truth about the world feels more climactic to me but on the other hand Blackbeard has basically been Luffy's arch-nemesis for a while now. We'll see how it goes I guess
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hatty posted:still think it’s funny that Big Mom went from being potato shaped as a kid to being a smoke show in her thirties and then reverts back to a potato when she hits her fifties. Lady has weird genetics I dont think its that weird. Had some baby fat when she was younger, stretched out during young adulthood, and the got potato shaped again after having 50+ children/menopause.
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tbp posted:i thought he handled the severity vs kaido well. you had kaido screaming "this is a nation of SLAVES!!" and luffy just flat out told him "i do not remotely give a poo poo about your ambitions, so long as you're around tama cannot eat, i'm going to send you to fuckin hell"
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Larryb posted:Taking the fight to the WG after claiming the One Piece and learning the truth about the world feels more climactic to me but on the other hand Blackbeard has basically been Luffy's arch-nemesis for a while now. We'll see how it goes I guess I was thinking that too, but it feels like Luffy is about get some very good reasons to start a war with the WG sooner than later.
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Oct 26, 2023 17:00
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Cat Machine posted:Yeah I don’t think Luffy has kept thinking about any antagonist beyond the point where he punched their lights out. The easiest resolution to the Celestials problem will be for them to be sent to the same mental pocket universe where Arlong, Kuro, Krieg and Hody Jones are hanging out I believe Hachi mentioned that Arlong was currently in prison at least so the same could be true with the others (Doffy is also locked up deep in Mariejois if I recall correctly)
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Oct 26, 2023 17:01
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Eustace posted:I dont think its that weird. Had some baby fat when she was younger, stretched out during young adulthood, and the got potato shaped again after having 50+ children/menopause. i honestly do not think that menopause exists in the OP world. you can have a child if your will is strong enough to do so, probably.
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Larryb posted:I believe Hachi mentioned that Arlong was currently in prison at least so the same could be true with the others (Doffy is also locked up deep in Mariejois if I recall correctly) alvida is with buggy morgan was going to be imprisoned, but is mia krieg is probably dead kuro is mia arlong is in prison buggy is an emperor (lmao) crocodile is working under buggy (double lmao) - several baroque works members are in prison, but most escaped to start a cafe or something bellamy is painting flags or something enel is on the moon foxy is having a blast somewhere else the cp9 are now either the cp0 or just doing whatever basically everyone in the paramount war is out there still magellan got demoted hody jones is in prison most of the indirect villains of punk hazard are dead doffy is in prison caesar is hanging with judge judge is hanging with caesar katakuri is presumably leading the big mom pirates big mom is presumably dead kaido (and many of his subordinates) are presumably dead so only three major antagonists are in prison, some are dead (or presumed dead), but most of them are free
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Oct 26, 2023 17:17
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we say "presumably" for kaido and big mom which is fair and all but does anyone like, actually think they're dead? big mom was screaming about not dying as she fell down into the abyss, there's no chance they don't come back in some fashion or form i think
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Oct 26, 2023 17:19
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i think the treasure that got stolen from pirate island that has rocks so heated up to come get it is, in fact, our missing fourth poneglyph. it having a stable and known location makes sense since lol moving poneglyph, it makes sense that the most powerful pirate of the time would set up shop on top of it as pirate island, and it makes sense why the wg would see a powerful charismatic dude with d in his name sitting on a poneglyph and swoop in to steal the whole thing while hes off the island doing something else. it would also explain how roger got access to it but no one else has since, though oden isnt here yet but maybe he had a rubbing or something idk.
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Electric Phantasm posted:I was thinking that too, but it feels like Luffy is about get some very good reasons to start a war with the WG sooner than later. I don't think Luffy will start a war with the World Government. I think he will end it.
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tbp posted:we say "presumably" for kaido and big mom which is fair and all but does anyone like, actually think they're dead? big mom was screaming about not dying as she fell down into the abyss, there's no chance they don't come back in some fashion or form i think Big Mom turned her bones into homies before she got blasted so I expect her to come back as a vengeful skeleton and marry Brook
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Jerusalem posted:Imagining Ivankov with Kaido's fruit 
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tbp posted:we say "presumably" for kaido and big mom which is fair and all but does anyone like, actually think they're dead? big mom was screaming about not dying as she fell down into the abyss, there's no chance they don't come back in some fashion or form i think They're absolutely not dead. Gonna see them in some "reacting to news" cover arc living on a desert island together in two years, it'll be cute.
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tbp posted:we say "presumably" for kaido and big mom which is fair and all but does anyone like, actually think they're dead? big mom was screaming about not dying as she fell down into the abyss, there's no chance they don't come back in some fashion or form i think "Big Mom will never die!" NEXT: BIG MOM DIES IN MAGMA Plutonis posted:I don't think Luffy will start a war with the World Government. 
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tbp posted:we say "presumably" for kaido and big mom which is fair and all but does anyone like, actually think they're dead? big mom was screaming about not dying as she fell down into the abyss, there's no chance they don't come back in some fashion or form i think Yes they are obviously alive and will team up with Luffy at some point the same way Law and Kidd did
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Oct 26, 2023 17:26
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I think kaido could plausibly be dead. I don't think bigmom is though with puddings insistence that she isnt.
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Oct 26, 2023 17:30
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Big Mom and Kaido got punched all the way through the world and are just living in Windmill Village with amnesia.
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Pyroi posted:Big Mom and Kaido got punched all the way through the world and are just living in Windmill Village with amnesia.
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Oct 26, 2023 17:37
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Kaido and big mom are encased in wano's seastone magma and will burst out when wano finally actually opens up, the cliffs surrounding it break down and the ancient weapon hidden under it is revealed.
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Plutonis posted:I don't think Luffy will start a war with the World Government. Officially he declared war on the WG back on Enies Lobby
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Saturn looks exactly the same 40 years ago as he does now, these fuckers are absolutely immortal or some kinda actual demons.Cat Machine posted:Yeah I don’t think Luffy has kept thinking about any antagonist beyond the point where he punched their lights out. The easiest resolution to the Celestials problem will be for them to be sent to the same mental pocket universe where Arlong, Kuro, Krieg and Hody Jones are hanging out The Celestials are too destructive and institutionalized to just get beat up and forgotten. There is no way the series ends with them still holding power in any way. It's just a question of whether they get wiped out by pirates, the marines, a slave rebellion, the revolutionaries or Imu on-screen, or if they lose power and Oda cuts away from them right before they're torn apart by [insert group here]. They're currently being starved out by the Revolutionaries and pissing off Akainu so their plot is slowly escalating to some kind of breaking point I think. tbp posted:we say "presumably" for kaido and big mom which is fair and all but does anyone like, actually think they're dead? big mom was screaming about not dying as she fell down into the abyss, there's no chance they don't come back in some fashion or form i think I do. They have too much power, influence and narrative weight to be left as loose ends imo. Also they're both so monstrous that I would just like them to actually be dead.
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Honestly a hard cut to Berserk level detail and gore for maybe... two pages while the Celestial Dragons get their comeuppance would be an incredible bit. It wouldn't ever happen, but man would it rock.
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If you think BM is dead what is the point of the amnesia mom/mom vs ulti plotline?
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The Celestial Dragons have been characterized as people who, even if they were handed the most generous deal ever along the lines of "you'll get away with everything scott free but you're going to have to live like a normal person from now on", would never take it. Not even in a defiant way, but just being Too Dumb to Live. I don't think anyone has to worry about them not getting their comeuppance.
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Nephthys posted:The Celestials are too destructive and institutionalized to just get beat up and forgotten. There is no way the series ends with them still holding power in any way. It's just a question of whether they get wiped out by pirates, the marines, a slave rebellion, the revolutionaries or Imu on-screen, or if they lose power and Oda cuts away from them right before they're torn apart by [insert group here]. They're currently being starved out by the Revolutionaries and pissing off Akainu so their plot is slowly escalating to some kind of breaking point I think.
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It's too damned anticlimactic but I'd be pretty satisfied if the Revolutionary Army's extended blockade of Mary Geoise just... worked. Like the CDs just start killing each other as the food runs low, or better yet over extremely trivial poo poo like who gets to eat the last lobster/ostriche egg etc.
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Haha, those plucky revolutionaries and their ocean going theft and plundering. What rogues.
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Kaido and Big Mom are playing an endless hell of Davy Back fights with Foxy
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My guess is we get a cover story about Kaido and Big Mom battling mole people or something
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My guess is big mom and kaido are dead as hell due to falling into magma and then the magma they were in exploding into a huge eruption
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My issue with Kaido is, when he was trying to kill himself, wouldn't he have tried magma as a method already
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Cat Machine posted:The Celestials have a one-way relationship with the OP world. When they’re overthrown, a bunch of things (the tributes, the slavery, the genocide, etc.) will hopefully stop, but I don’t think the socio-political fabric of the planet will be affected all that much. The CDs don’t seem to put much effort into how the world beyond the Red Line is run, and the surface kingdoms - if they still exist - will keep on living without much impact. I feel like SWORD has been invented by Oda as the “don’t worry, there will be good law and good order and good cops post-revolution” thing that helps him simplify the bigger social implications. I feel like the Heavenly Tribute at least raises the question of “where will the money to pay the good cops come from?” Not to mention humanitarian aid to the World Nobles’ former slaves, people displaced by the likely geological consequences of Ancient Weapons being used, etc. They can confiscate the World Nobles’ assets, but if Marie Geoise gets destroyed in the final battle there may not be much in the way of assets left to confiscate.
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Akainu gonna goop up mam and kaido. Somehow.
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Have you considered that Kaido is a coward and magma is ouchie
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Silver2195 posted:I feel like the Heavenly Tribute at least raises the question of “where will the money to pay the good cops come from?” Not to mention humanitarian aid to the World Nobles’ former slaves, people displaced by the likely geological consequences of Ancient Weapons being used, etc. They can confiscate the World Nobles’ assets, but if Marie Geoise gets destroyed in the final battle there may not be much in the way of assets left to confiscate.
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Cat Machine posted:The Celestials have a one-way relationship with the OP world. When they’re overthrown, a bunch of things (the tributes, the slavery, the genocide, etc.) will hopefully stop, but I don’t think the socio-political fabric of the planet will be affected all that much. The CDs don’t seem to put much effort into how the world beyond the Red Line is run, and the surface kingdoms - if they still exist - will keep on living without much impact. I feel like SWORD has been invented by Oda as the “don’t worry, there will be good law and good order and good cops post-revolution” thing that helps him simplify the bigger social implications. you mention it but one pretty important worldbuilding facet that keeps coming back up: the heavenly tribute. they demand so loving much from the below kingdoms that it's almost absurd. the entire reason kaido is who he is comes down to the Vodka Kingdom making him a child soldier because they needed his fighting ability to pay the tribute and then selling him to the WG in order to sit at the table with the rest of the world. you mention the tribute at the start but i think Oda is trying to tell us "nah they don't show their faces that often but what they demand is truly and sicnerely loving up the world"
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Rubberduke posted:
Boy howdy Roger really looks a lot different here than his usual self, when Father Time takes his swipe he doesn't hold back does he?
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My theory is we are gonna see Luffy punch Im first, then Blackbeard will show up and steal whatever it is that makes Im the ruler of the world, and Luffy will need to punch BB next to save the world, probably on Laugh Tale. Just like Marineford except this time BB won’t back down Shanks will be dead and the Marines will be defeated with Im
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Irony Be My Shield posted:My issue with Kaido is, when he was trying to kill himself, wouldn't he have tried magma as a method already What if magma is hard to find? It's not like there's a man made of magma out there.
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i dont think kaido was actually trying to kill himself in a serious fashion. he was just depressed as hell. sort of like a very dramatic form of self-harm
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