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I know it's not the offseason, the customary time to bring this up, but I just wanted to say that Nicklas Backstrom should get into the HHOF on the same ballot as Ovechkin. 
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Kind of assume that Vegas told the league about what happened from their end, and it seems so outlandish incompetent/deceitful that the league didn't believe them, and then turned out it be true
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Nov 1, 2023 18:14
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Frustrating part about these back-to-back super harsh punishments the league handed out to the Sens is the vagueness. What did Pinto do to get a 41-gamer if he wasn’t betting on the NHL? Did Dorion lie to Vegas about Dadonovs NTC or was it pure incompetence from a guy who will probably never have a job in the NHL again? Anyway, Ottawa called a Press conference at 3:15, see ya Pierre
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Nov 1, 2023 18:19
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There's not going to be any info on Pinto because everyone signed confidentiality agreements as part of the suspension.
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Nov 1, 2023 18:31
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The Dirty Burger posted:Frustrating part about these back-to-back super harsh punishments the league handed out to the Sens is the vagueness. What did Pinto do to get a 41-gamer if he wasn’t betting on the NHL? Did Dorion lie to Vegas about Dadonovs NTC or was it pure incompetence from a guy who will probably never have a job in the NHL again? lol it'll just be to whine about how mean the NHL is being to them
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Nov 1, 2023 18:40
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Pinto got 41 games for insider trading OP. Seems straight forward. Lol that Chicago gets away with a pile of crimes though and Ottawa gets nuked. Dogshit garbage league.
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Nov 1, 2023 18:40
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Chad Sexington posted:I know it's not the offseason, the customary time to bring this up, but I just wanted to say that Nicklas Backstrom should get into the HHOF on the same ballot as Ovechkin. I don't think Backstrom is getting in. Over 1000 points and 1 Stanley Cup doesn't seem like enough of a resume.
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Nov 1, 2023 18:41
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Yeah Backstrom is not going to make it. He was never in the top few players in the league during his career and his credentials are excellent but not HHOF worthy
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Nov 1, 2023 18:46
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Backstrom is better than Adam Oates, who made it in. Two World Championships, silver in the Olympics*, all-star, Stanley Cup champ. *It was allergy medication, shut up. Chad Sexington fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Nov 1, 2023 |
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Nov 1, 2023 18:56
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Adam Oates didn't dope during the Olympics though. I wrote this before your edit because I'm a prophet.
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Nov 1, 2023 19:02
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Chad Sexington posted:Backstrom is better than Adam Oates, who made it in. Two World Championships, silver in the Olympics*, all-star, Stanley Cup champ. Is he better than Adam Oates? Isn't Oates 3rd all time in assists or something?
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Nov 1, 2023 19:03
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Pinto got 41 games for insider trading OP. Seems straight forward. Lol that Chicago gets away with a pile of crimes though and Ottawa gets nuked. Dogshit garbage league. Ottawa got nuked for loving with player contracts and straight lying about CBA related atuff. And more importantly, doing so in an incompetent way that they couldn't claim some legal cover for like the Mike Richards stuff. Chicago should also have gotten nuked, but Ottawa absolutely needs to be made an example of if they were actively lying rather than incompetent.
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Nov 1, 2023 19:08
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fawning deference posted:Is he better than Adam Oates? Isn't Oates 3rd all time in assists or something? He's down to 8th now but yeah, I'm not sure why Oates never gets any respect. He was in every way "what if Joe Thornton, but human shaped" and no one seems to question Thornton's HOF credentials.
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Nov 1, 2023 19:09
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Alfredsson got in with a roughly similar career (though he had a calder and a lot more international success) Elias and Brind'Amour are two statistical comparables who aren't in yet though e: I guess Hossa got in with no real personal hardware (admittedly by the virtue of winning 3 cups) but who knows Good Soldier Svejk fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Nov 1, 2023 |
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Nov 1, 2023 19:09
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Eric the Mauve posted:He's down to 8th now but yeah, I'm not sure why Oates never gets any respect. He was in every way "what if Joe Thornton, but human shaped" and no one seems to question Thornton's HOF credentials. Oates had more assists than Backstrom had points. And Backstrom's the one guy that can't use the "but Oates only got numbers by feeding Hull all day" excuse.
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Nov 1, 2023 19:18
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Backstrom ended with a 0.93ppg vs. Oates 1.06 but Backstrom is all post-lockout. Higher ppg than the Sedins.
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Nov 1, 2023 19:32
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It’s the hall of very good, Backstrom is def getting in. Maybe not first ballot but he’ll get in. Does Ovechkin get to file his insurance policy now ? Does this give him the goals to hit the record? https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/ovechkins-backstrom-star-hilarious-life-insurance-commercial/
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Nov 1, 2023 19:33
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Backstrom should and I am pretty certain will be in. 1000 points in a low scoring era and a Cup has mostly been enough to get in and I think it helps that he was only a single team that was pretty successful for his tenure. Twice in the top 5 in scoring, 5 times in the top 10. I think he'll wait to get in but I don't think the HHOF is going to be super strict on him in particular.
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Nov 1, 2023 19:39
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Dorion just got fired. Betting it's Staios that replaces him.
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Nov 1, 2023 19:40
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Pierre Dorion is out. Here's a fun reddit post that popped up only 5 hours ago if you want a nice long rap sheet https://www.reddit.com/r/OttawaSenators/comments/17lcdhk/can_anyone_make_a_case_for_the_firing_of_pierre/
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Nov 1, 2023 19:40
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Trying to think of another incompetent GM that lasted as long as Pierre did. Almost 8 loving years! Keep the pain coming, announce Chiarelli
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Nov 1, 2023 19:44
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The Dirty Burger posted:Trying to think of another incompetent GM that lasted as long as Pierre did. Almost 8 loving years! Jim Benning, 7.5 years in Vancouver Too easy, unfortunately
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Nov 1, 2023 19:48
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The Dirty Burger posted:Trying to think of another incompetent GM that lasted as long as Pierre did. Almost 8 loving years! Winnipeg Jets. Ron Hextall ruined 2 franchises in less than 8 years.
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Nov 1, 2023 19:48
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David Poile was GM for literally 30 years and did like 2 good things in that entire time.
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Nov 1, 2023 19:52
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https://twitter.com/thefourthperiod/status/1719786986179842192?s=46&t=ZmcWuigp8va-srUE4rOQ8Q As a Sabres fan, I support this 100%
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Nov 1, 2023 20:05
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Eric the Mauve posted:He's down to 8th now but yeah, I'm not sure why Oates never gets any respect. He was in every way "what if Joe Thornton, but human shaped" and no one seems to question Thornton's HOF credentials. Led the league in assists 3 years and had a 142 of season. The guy is one of the absolute best passers ever and I don't think Backstrom is particularly close to him.
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Nov 1, 2023 20:05
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The Dirty Burger posted:I believe Carl Hagelin and Patrick Kane had the same type of hip surgery that Backstrom did, and they’re all around 35. Backstrom tried to come back but couldn’t skate at NHL speed, Hagelin retired, we’ll see which dumbass GM signs Kaner the people I see saying "Kane will be better after this surgery, the Rangers need to sign him!" are driving me crazy Kane is cooked (he's gonna sign with someone and score a bunch in teh first few games and people will crow and then he's gonna disappear after that)
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Nov 1, 2023 20:06
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Benning certainly feels like the right answer. But I think some of that is whiplash from the Canucks being like top of the league great for the first time ever prior to his hiring. I remember most people on the forums fawned over Gillis. He was one of the early analytics guys. He was early on building mostly for speed and skill and pro-Euro. He was hyper diligent about cap strategy. He hired like sleep specialists and body trackers and performance people early. Then the Cup loss happened, everyone in and around Vancouver lost their mind, and Benning did a masterclass in how to incompetently run a team. So yeah he’s bad, but guys like Fletcher and Hextall and Dorion and Chiarelli and others are probably on the same level
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Nov 1, 2023 20:08
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https://twitter.com/clahanna/status/1719796140923592711?s=46&t=2hVb1vPytx9OUpdE0UPz6Q. Imagine dropping a billion dollars to own this team lol Please hire at least one pro scout
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Nov 1, 2023 20:22
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CHIARELLI TIME LOL
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Nov 1, 2023 20:35
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gently caress the NHL so much. I already contribute $0 to the NHL but I they are quickly losing all my interest. probably wouldn't be so quick to lose interest if my team wasn't rear end, but...
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Nov 1, 2023 20:37
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:CHIARELLI TIME LOL
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Nov 1, 2023 20:41
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https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1719801295039586660?s=46&t=2hVb1vPytx9OUpdE0UPz6Q Love this, get a refund
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Nov 1, 2023 20:48
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Andlauer is very likely gonna sue the league here for this bullshit.
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Nov 1, 2023 20:49
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bunnyofdoom posted:Andlauer is very likely gonna sue the league here for this bullshit. I think that's exactly what he is saying in so many words. This is gonna be a glorious shitshow 
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Nov 1, 2023 20:55
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Nah, he's using that to get something like the draft or an all-star game.
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Nov 1, 2023 20:58
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Nah, he's using that to get something like the draft or an all-star game. Yeah I greatly doubt a lawsuit wiould actually happen, but he's barely veiling his threat of one in public to push the NHL to the
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Nov 1, 2023 20:59
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Nah, he's using that to get something like the draft or an all-star game. All star game maybe, but the problem they are having is no one wants to host the draft which is why they are floating the smaller format.
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Nov 1, 2023 21:01
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pseudodragon posted:All star game maybe, but the problem they are having is no one wants to host the draft which is why they are floating the smaller format. Teams want to host that's not a problem. The problem is that teams don't want to travel for it.
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No chance the NHL allows a potential lawsuit to get to discovery, so lots of concessions and such are likely
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